$2.1 Billion Sunbury Line Upgrade

 
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
There should be plenty of space between Sunshine and Sunbury for Bendigo trains because half of the Metro Tunnel trains will be going somewhere else at Sunshine (be that the Airport, Melton or Wyndham Vale is still in the air). The main thing will be the speed that Bendigo trains will be able to travel.

A "solution" at a smaller cost could be to extend a V/Line only track from the current junction to just before the descent at Ginifer, giving V/Line trains about 2.5km of extra fast time. With only 2 Bendigo trains and about 12 Sunbury trains an hour, a flyover probably wouldn't even be needed, just some line speed points.

The most expensive part would be adding another deck to the bridge at Anderson Road.

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  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Not sure if this has already been covered in this thread as I can't keep RP running long enough to check before it drops out this AM.......

A while back someone suggested that a bypass track was to be built from the Calder Park stabling yard to Watergardens. At the time I thought that it sounded a bit fanciful.

I am not sure if the 2 are related but this morning while crawling past on the 09.14 Down Bendigo service I noticed a heap of work happening on the Up side of the Melton Highway including what looks like piles for a new bridge over a creek which runs under the line.

This work is on the West side of the Down line and looks for all intents and purposes like the beginning of work for a new formation. It could of course be just a road bridge but it is awfully close to the rail line and the works are quite extensive.

There has also been a heap of bunting / plastic fencing going up around the stabling yard recently and it extends up towards  Calder Park Drive. It also appears that more construction materials than usual have been delivered to the site.

Very interesting Klink.
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

That would of been me BG.

I recall seeing in some of the early documents for MM1 that a bypass track was to be built between Calder Park and Watergardens to allow for movements between the two. There is a stub track at Calder Park for this intention.

I’m pretty confident that stabling at Watergardens will be relocated to the expanded Calder Park, this would allow for track reconfiguration so starters from Calder Park could access Platform 2, with through running on 1 & 3. Shorts will also terminate on 2 as they currently do. I don’t think Sunbury will be getting another better than a 20 minute of peak service. Service plans have Watergardens between a 10 & 6 minutes frequency.

The only remaining questions in this are;

Removal of the Calder Park Drive LX. This has been talked about for years. Along with duplication of the road. During peak, traffic will bank up on to the freeway. This being a good couple of Kilometres from the LX. With an increase in services to Sunbury and in the longer to Bendigo, plus movement to Calder Park. This LX is only going to get worse.

Secondly is the talked about station at Calder Park. This to take the pressure of Watergardens and provide for the new estates out at Hillside. VicTrack leases land from Watergardens Shopping Centre for car parking. The Shopping centre has been wanting to develop this for years.

We will see what comes out in the wash! Thanks for the update, I rarely get to travel out that way anymore.

Lockie
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
Not sure if this has already been covered in this thread as I can't keep RP running long enough to check before it drops out this AM.......

A while back someone suggested that a bypass track was to be built from the Calder Park stabling yard to Watergardens. At the time I thought that it sounded a bit fanciful.

I am not sure if the 2 are related but this morning while crawling past on the 09.14 Down Bendigo service I noticed a heap of work happening on the Up side of the Melton Highway including what looks like piles for a new bridge over a creek which runs under the line.

This work is on the West side of the Down line and looks for all intents and purposes like the beginning of work for a new formation. It could of course be just a road bridge but it is awfully close to the rail line and the works are quite extensive.

There has also been a heap of bunting / plastic fencing going up around the stabling yard recently and it extends up towards  Calder Park Drive. It also appears that more construction materials than usual have been delivered to the site.

Very interesting Klink.
BrentonGolding
The 'Sydenham Drain' bridge is being widened to allow for realignment of the line to allow the Watergardens siding to be extended to take the 10 car HCMTs.

Info from PDF

The page that leads to the pdf has more updates about the whole Sunbury line works
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Neil
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

Not sure if this has already been covered in this thread as I can't keep RP running long enough to check before it drops out this AM.......

A while back someone suggested that a bypass track was to be built from the Calder Park stabling yard to Watergardens. At the time I thought that it sounded a bit fanciful.

I am not sure if the 2 are related but this morning while crawling past on the 09.14 Down Bendigo service I noticed a heap of work happening on the Up side of the Melton Highway including what looks like piles for a new bridge over a creek which runs under the line.

This work is on the West side of the Down line and looks for all intents and purposes like the beginning of work for a new formation. It could of course be just a road bridge but it is awfully close to the rail line and the works are quite extensive.

There has also been a heap of bunting / plastic fencing going up around the stabling yard recently and it extends up towards  Calder Park Drive. It also appears that more construction materials than usual have been delivered to the site.

Very interesting Klink.
The 'Sydenham Drain' bridge is being widened to allow for realignment of the line to allow the Watergardens siding to be extended to take the 10 car HCMTs.

Info from PDF

The page that leads to the pdf has more updates about the whole Sunbury line works
Notifications


Neil
ngarner
There is 145m from the end of the balks and the Melton Highway overpass. This is plenty of room to extended the currently stabling. There doesn't seem to be a need to realign the current track to accommodate any extension to the current stabling. I did also notice that they are installing delineation fencing along the corridor and around the Calder Park LX. As well as a works notice for the installation of new overheads.

As the majority of the works are occurring within VicTrack land there is no need for any planning scheme amendments, so no planning documents around any of the works occurring out this way.  

Its all a bit of a guess at the moment, but very interesting to see how it turns out.
  GaryAblett5 Beginner

$2.1 billion sounds excessive for just simple platform extension, track upgrades and implementation of the high capacity signalling system, when you compare it to Perth's new underground Airport Rail link, which is $ 1.86 billion. I figure that the full details of the Sunbury Line Upgrade has not been revealed.

the first stage costs $215 million and it includes extending the platforms, boost accessibility (wheelchair boarding platforms and shelter (DDS standard)) and building new stabling (at Watergardens/Calder Park). the second stage costs $534 million involves major track and power upgrades.  This leaves $1.351 billion left-over.

A number of projects that I figure could be done, but yet to be announced.
- Reconstruction of Keilor Plains Station- e.g. lifts and ramps to remove the pedestrian level crossing
- Reconstruction of Watergardens Station- possible third platform
-Level crossing removals in Sunbury and Diggers Rest- Diggers Rest station could be rebuilt.
- Rebuilding Sunshine station (reconfiguration) to get it ready for the Airport Rail Link, Melton/Wyndham electrification


I know this might sound far fetched. I can't get around why we spend $2.1 billion on "upgrades", when major rail projects in Perth ($1.86 billion) and Brisbane ($5.4 billion) are relatively cheaper.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
A number of projects that I figure could be done, but yet to be announced.
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- Reconstruction of Watergardens Station- possible third platform
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GaryAblett5

Hey Gazza, welcolm aboard.

Just because the submit button doesn't give an instant answer, this does not mean you are forgotten.
Hitting again and again just ends up as multiple entries.

As for Watergardens, that's exactly what was done in 2002.

Cheers
John
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
I know this might sound far fetched. I can't get around why we spend $2.1 billion on "upgrades", when major rail projects in Perth ($1.86 billion) and Brisbane ($5.4 billion) are relatively cheaper.
GaryAblett5
Because Victoria already has several major transport infrastructure projects on the go which is stretching the workforce and expertise to capacity.
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

$2.1 billion sounds excessive for just simple platform extension, track upgrades and implementation of the high capacity signalling system, when you compare it to Perth's new underground Airport Rail link, which is $ 1.86 billion. I figure that the full details of the Sunbury Line Upgrade has not been revealed.

the first stage costs $215 million and it includes extending the platforms, boost accessibility (wheelchair boarding platforms and shelter (DDS standard)) and building new stabling (at Watergardens/Calder Park). the second stage costs $534 million involves major track and power upgrades.  This leaves $1.351 billion left-over.

A number of projects that I figure could be done, but yet to be announced.
- Reconstruction of Keilor Plains Station- e.g. lifts and ramps to remove the pedestrian level crossing
- Reconstruction of Watergardens Station- possible third platform
-Level crossing removals in Sunbury and Diggers Rest- Diggers Rest station could be rebuilt.
- Rebuilding Sunshine station (reconfiguration) to get it ready for the Airport Rail Link, Melton/Wyndham electrification


I know this might sound far fetched. I can't get around why we spend $2.1 billion on "upgrades", when major rail projects in Perth ($1.86 billion) and Brisbane ($5.4 billion) are relatively cheaper.
GaryAblett5

Watergardens Already has 3 platforms, $60M was allocated in 18/19 for 'accessibility upgrades'

Keilor Plans needs a complete rebuild, this has to be one of the cheapest stations on the network. LX removal at Sunbury has already been costed as part of the LX removal program.

There is an additional $313m budgeted to 'Network Integration' this is substations and getting 1500DC through the corridor. Budget papers also show the majority of the funding in due in 20/21 some $700 million, then a final $200 million in 21/22. See what additional projects are announced as part of this years delayed budget.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Very interesting to see progress while on the Down Swan Hill this morning. The 3rd platform at West Footscray has been connected and all Up services are running through it. Only the up and down end points to the platform have had their blades installed though, all of the other (mainly crossover) points are inactive and the up main is baulked at both ends.

Moving on to Calder Park stabling and the work going on there is very impressive. Progress is being made on the bypass track at the up end of Watergardens with the bridge over the creek now complete while at the stabling yard end there has been a LOT of trackwork done from the Up end of the yard back towards WG

Judging by the amount of plastic fencing around the LX at Calder Park Drive and elsewhere there is still a heap more to come. It almost looks like the track is going to go around the substation between the LX and the yard as there is a heap of work being done there out of sight over the little hill and the track bed work seems to be extending from the yard right down to the substation area.
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

@BG

Definitely a lot of work going on there. Still yet to piece together if they are building a bypass track to Watergardens as was originally planned when Calder Park was first planned.

There is significant track work near the substation, just before Calder Park Drive. I’m not sure if this will end up being the bypass track. Some overhead foundations were going in this morning as a went past. So over the next week or so I might be able to plot it together.

The bridge over Sydenham Drain is complete with track bed extending to Melton Hwy. this will need to be slewed back in as the current geometry has it going into the bridge abutment. Between the work sight and Calder Park Drive there seems to be zero construction to indicate a bypass track will run all the way to Watergardens. At the same time the location of the new bridge doesn’t seem to assist in extending the current stabling at Watergardens as the track narrows under Melton Hwy on the approach to Watergardens.

So a bit of mystery as what might come out at this stage.

There is also increasing works around Gap Road LX in Sunbury. This isn’t due to go anytime soon, but with the increase in attention this may be brought forward to line up with the completion of the upgrade by 2023.

The giant elephant that as been missed as part of this upgrade is the LX at Calder Park Drive. With an increase in services and a possible third track this will become even worse.

Lockie
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
I am fairly certain there is not going to be a bypass track between Watergardens and Calder Park. What is happening is the existing stabling at Watergardens is being extended to end under the Melton Highway bridge. This means the down line has to be slewed, and will use the new bridge over the creek.

Rail Projects have been releasing fairly detailed updates about what they have been doing which can be found here: https://railprojects.vic.gov.au/sunburylineupgrade/work-notifications
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

I am fairly certain there is not going to be a bypass track between Watergardens and Calder Park. What is happening is the existing stabling at Watergardens is being extended to end under the Melton Highway bridge. This means the down line has to be slewed, and will use the new bridge over the creek.

Rail Projects have been releasing fairly detailed updates about what they have been doing which can be found here: https://railprojects.vic.gov.au/sunburylineupgrade/work-notifications
TOQ-1
Original Plans for Calder Park when it was conceived as part of the original MM1 Project has no stabling at Watergardens and a bypass track out to Calder Park. The current stabling is to be removed in the plans to provide room for the bypass track. This entailed platform 1 & 2 serving through services with platform 3 being used for shorts and end of service. These plans also include an entrance down of Calder Park to connect the Up Line from Sunbury so services terminating at Sunbury could run back into the yard. Currently there are a few evening services that run to Watergardens to then be stabled at Calder Park, both revenue and non.

I'm yet to be convinced that no bypass track is being built. The current bridge over Sydenham Drain runs into the Melton Hwy bridge abutment and does not benefit an extension of the current stabling as the narrowest point is under Melton Hwy with both tracks are the the furthest extremes that the corridor allows. The Current stabling could be extended the 60 or so meters without any need for the track to be reconfigured, with the current end of the stabling 140m from Melton Hwy bridge.

But that was the original plans back in 2008 when the yard was conceived and built. I will be watching closing on my commutes to work to see what ends up being.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I am fairly certain there is not going to be a bypass track between Watergardens and Calder Park. What is happening is the existing stabling at Watergardens is being extended to end under the Melton Highway bridge. This means the down line has to be slewed, and will use the new bridge over the creek.

Rail Projects have been releasing fairly detailed updates about what they have been doing which can be found here: https://railprojects.vic.gov.au/sunburylineupgrade/work-notifications
Original Plans for Calder Park when it was conceived as part of the original MM1 Project has no stabling at Watergardens and a bypass track out to Calder Park. The current stabling is to be removed in the plans to provide room for the bypass track. This entailed platform 1 & 2 serving through services with platform 3 being used for shorts and end of service. These plans also include an entrance down of Calder Park to connect the Up Line from Sunbury so services terminating at Sunbury could run back into the yard. Currently there are a few evening services that run to Watergardens to then be stabled at Calder Park, both revenue and non.
Lockie91
I'm not convinced either way about the bypass track but ever since you raised it I have been watching with interest.

New works adjacent to the Down Main outside of the stabling yard fence certainly look like prelim works for a new track to enable Up trains to enter the stabling yard from the Down end.

And as for WG stabling, I have no insight into whether it will go or stay but why would you keep it when you have a brand spanking new yard a few kms up the road with crew facilities, secure parking etc etc etc
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

@BG
A friend of mine designed and worked on the original Calder Park Drive. So I’ve seen plans as to what it’s final form was meant to look like. This included a track to Watergardens and an entrance on the Down end to allow empty cars from Sunbury to run straight in. That was many years ago however.

A morning trip past the work site;

Three new roads are now visible, with a few high rail vehicles around looking as if wires were soon to be strung. The length is the same as the current roads, storage for an additional 6 HCMTs. There is earth works occurring beyond the new roads, I’m not sure if this if for another set of additional roads or Light Maintenance/Train Wash Facility.

A couple of new turn outs have been installed in the mainline, sans blades. Foundations and track bed are now in place from Calder Park down to the Substation. The track bed abruptly ends here. The retaining wall is sortcreted, for the track to continue this would need to be jack hammered away with a new retaining wall built. As you mentioned I can still see the tops of earth movers working away on something behind the Substation.

Down towards Melton Highway, foundations are now in place from Melton Highway overpass through the worksite, over the new bridge to approximately Chandos Street. Once again the formation ends here, with no work occurring between Chandos Street and Calder Park LX.

New foundations have been installed along side the up track suggesting this will be slewed on to the future alignment. Service proving works are occurring between the up track and Sydenham Road. No works are happening at the end of the current stabling to indicate this is being modified at all.

It is possible that they want to commission new roads at Calder Park to allow for storage before Watergardens is booked out for works.

Cable installation and foundations continue to be installed along the line from Watergardens to Footscray. The steel frame for the new control centre is now complete at Sunshine.

The Hobsons Road worksite is being demobilised now that tunnelling works are complete. Earth works and concreting continue on the approach ramp to the new tunnels.

About a dozen or so John Holand High Vis types poking around in cabinets and pits, pointing to plans laid out on bonnets this morning at Gap Road LX in Sunbury.

The jigsaw puzzle continues.

Lockie
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
Three new roads are now visible, with a few high rail vehicles around looking as if wires were soon to be strung. The length is the same as the current roads, storage for an additional 6 HCMTs. There is earth works occurring beyond the new roads, I’m not sure if this if for another set of additional roads or Light Maintenance/Train Wash Facility.
Lockie
Lockie91
According to one of the government websites, sorry can't remember which one, this yard is/was supposed to have 12 roads on completion

Neil
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Following on from Lockie's last post work continues apace at the Calder Park stabling site with a huge number of personnel and machinery hard at it this morning.

There is still a lot of work going on around the substation area at the up end of the yard although as previously mentioned it is hard to see what is involved because it is behind a little hill.

Interestingly there are 2 rather large piles of concrete sleepers right down near the substation which is quite a distance from the main work area. Normally the sticks are delivered to the other end of the site and the way these are stacked they look like they are set up for laying not the usual storage pile for the site in general
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

@BG

RPV has upload a fair bit of information on the Sunbury Line Upgrade Page and it is with disappointment they have confirmed that a bypass track is not to be constructed. The current roads at Watergardens will be extended some hundred meters beyond the Melton Highway overpass. This leaves about a km from the end of the roads to where the track work is near Calder Park.

Strangely enough new stub has been constureted as part of the new track work at the entrance to Calder Park Yards.

Also of interest is the total size of Calder Park as seen in the environmental statement for wee little frog. Stage 2 A & B are currently under construction with Stage 3 getting underway out of site. This would be those earth movers seen beyond the newly constructed roads. Once all the current construction works finish up less the 50% of the land area would have been used. There is plenty of room to build a heavy maintenance facility to here in the future.

I have been temporarily stood down due to Stage 4 and have no reasons to be travelling into the city anymore, so It will be some six weeks before I get to see what is going on.

Lockie
  TrackRailroad Train Controller

Location: Frankston Line
@BG

RPV has upload a fair bit of information on the Sunbury Line Upgrade Page and it is with disappointment they have confirmed that a bypass track is not to be constructed. The current roads at Watergardens will be extended some hundred meters beyond the Melton Highway overpass. This leaves about a km from the end of the roads to where the track work is near Calder Park.

Strangely enough new stub has been constureted as part of the new track work at the entrance to Calder Park Yards.

Also of interest is the total size of Calder Park as seen in the environmental statement for wee little frog. Stage 2 A & B are currently under construction with Stage 3 getting underway out of site. This would be those earth movers seen beyond the newly constructed roads. Once all the current construction works finish up less the 50% of the land area would have been used. There is plenty of room to build a heavy maintenance facility to here in the future.

I have been temporarily stood down due to Stage 4 and have no reasons to be travelling into the city anymore, so It will be some six weeks before I get to see what is going on.

Lockie
Lockie91
Is there provision for a new Calder Park Railway Station? Which would be beneficial for the area to take pressure off Watergardens Station and provide a new railway station for Hillside and North Sydenham residents. I think a station at Calder Park Drive would be ideal and there should be ample room for commuter car parking.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I have been temporarily stood down due to Stage 4 and have no reasons to be travelling into the city anymore, so It will be some six weeks before I get to see what is going on.

Lockie
Lockie91
Thanks mate, I am still allowed my travel under the Stage 4 rules (which I cut back from 2 trips each way to 1 at the start of the pandemic) so I will keep an eye on things especially at the Substation end.

Still cannot understand why they need stabling at WG, Calder AND Sunbury but hey, greater minds than mine.......
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

@BG

RPV has upload a fair bit of information on the Sunbury Line Upgrade Page and it is with disappointment they have confirmed that a bypass track is not to be constructed. The current roads at Watergardens will be extended some hundred meters beyond the Melton Highway overpass. This leaves about a km from the end of the roads to where the track work is near Calder Park.

Strangely enough new stub has been constureted as part of the new track work at the entrance to Calder Park Yards.

Also of interest is the total size of Calder Park as seen in the environmental statement for wee little frog. Stage 2 A & B are currently under construction with Stage 3 getting underway out of site. This would be those earth movers seen beyond the newly constructed roads. Once all the current construction works finish up less the 50% of the land area would have been used. There is plenty of room to build a heavy maintenance facility to here in the future.

I have been temporarily stood down due to Stage 4 and have no reasons to be travelling into the city anymore, so It will be some six weeks before I get to see what is going on.

Lockie
Is there provision for a new Calder Park Railway Station? Which would be beneficial for the area to take pressure off Watergardens Station and provide a new railway station for Hillside and North Sydenham residents. I think a station at Calder Park Drive would be ideal and there should be ample room for commuter car parking.
TrackRailroad
There is no provision for any future station at this stage. The project boundary ends near Victoria Road, which is an access road to the Sydenham Terminal Station, with any future station falling outside this area. A station would need to be located adjacent to Calder Park Drive. One side is privately owned land (Calder Raceway) the other is a grassland reserve so land to construct is going to be an issue, but nothing to major. Vicroads has plans to turn Calder Park drive into a six lane arterial road to connect to Melton Highway, this includes a road overpass over the Sunbury Line. There is no mention of a station in any of their plans but this would most likely be built along side the bridge.

This has been talked about for sometime now, Watergardens was never meant to be the park and ride facility it is today. The land that the current carparks are on is owned by Watergardens and leased to Victrack. Watergardens has plans to build on these carparks to 'incorporate' the station into the shopping centre. Calder Park Station doesn't need to be anything fancy, standard platforms, unstaffed with 1000 or so carparks.

Calder Park is one of three station that have been spoken about but plans never happened. The others are;
Delahey/Keilor Downs. This would sit on land currently owned by Broadcast Australia with an access road from King Road to the station site. This was to services Delahey, Burnside Heights & Keilor Downs thus reducing pressure on Watergardens and Keilor Plans.

The third has recently appeared on the Sunbury South Precinct Structure Plan, named Sunbury South. Located opposite Vineyard Road near Obeid Drive. The station would be accessed by a new feeder road and would serve the expected 30,000 new people that will move into the area over the next decade. This would also reduce pressure on Sunbury station if a park and ride facility was incorporated. Estates have just started construction on the first phase of the PSP, any station would be 5+ years away.

Still cannot understand why they need stabling at WG, Calder AND Sunbury but hey, greater minds than mine.......
BG
Still perplexes me to have 4 trains stabled at Watergardens with another 12 roads (24 trains) at Calder Park which is less than 1km away. I get having a few at Sunbury for first and last trains but besides that they should all be kept at Calder Park.

Lockie
  duttonbay Minister for Railways


Calder Park is one of three station that have been spoken about but plans never happened. The others are;
Delahey/Keilor Downs. The third ... named Sunbury South.
Lockie91

I'm sure those living north of Sunbury and relying on V/Line will be over the moon to have another three stations for sparks to stop at, running in front of their longer distance train.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.

Calder Park is one of three station that have been spoken about but plans never happened. The others are;
Delahey/Keilor Downs. The third ... named Sunbury South.
I'm sure those living north of Sunbury and relying on V/Line will be over the moon to have another three stations for sparks to stop at, running in front of their longer distance train.
duttonbay
If they used the ability for trains to pass at Watergardens a little more frequently (perhaps even include it in the timetable) and ensured V/line services are sent in front of sparks when they join the suburban lines, then this shouldn't be a problem.

I do however bet that there will be whingers from Sunbury complaining about the longer travel times.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Not much to report this AM apart from track now laid from the down side of the Melton Hwy bridge over the new creek crossing and up to nearly the end of the new slew.

Still a heap of people working on site at Calder Stabling, they don't appear to be affected by the reduced workers on site requirements of the Stage 4 lockdown so far

One thing I did notice, and it may well be nothing, but on the diagrams on the Sunbury Line Upgrade website kindly linked by Lockie in a post above it shows the existing substation on the up side of the stabling yards as oriented east-west if you like rather than it's current north-south. With all the work going on around it ATM and the new track seemingly headed right at it makes me wonder if they are going to move the substation to make way for the track to extend further in the Up direction towards Calder Park Drive
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller


Calder Park is one of three station that have been spoken about but plans never happened. The others are;
Delahey/Keilor Downs. The third ... named Sunbury South.
I'm sure those living north of Sunbury and relying on V/Line will be over the moon to have another three stations for sparks to stop at, running in front of their longer distance train.If they used the ability for trains to pass at Watergardens a little more frequently (perhaps even include it in the timetable) and ensured V/line services are sent in front of sparks when they join the suburban lines, then this shouldn't be a problem.

I do however bet that there will be whingers from Sunbury complaining about the longer travel times.
railblogger
The issue isn't so much at Watergardens, V/line could easily pass here travel a few km's to St Albans and then crawl all the way to Sunshine. The congestion issue is beyond Watergardens and will only get worse once Watergardens gets a 10 minute frequency.

If the foamy plan from RFI was to ever come about this wouldn't be an issue as Bendigo would get an express run via the Airport & tunnel.

As for the whingers from Sunbury nothing will appease them. 10 years on they are still craping on about having the 'dirty' metro and all the 'trouble' to brings to town.

One thing I did notice, and it may well be nothing, but on the diagrams on the Sunbury Line Upgrade website kindly linked by Lockie in a post above it shows the existing substation on the up side of the stabling yards as oriented east-west if you like rather than it's current north-south. With all the work going on around it ATM and the new track seemingly headed right at it makes me wonder if they are going to move the substation to make way for the track to extend further in the Up direction towards Calder Park Drive
BrentonGolding
The plans talk about the construction of a new substation to power the expanded yard. I wonder if the current trackside substation will be removed and replaced with the new substation within the yard. Or if we will end up with two substations less than a hundred meters apart.

Lockie

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