Tweed Multi-Modal Corridor Study - TfNSW 2020/024

 
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
This is almost one for the Qld thread (perhaps our state based forum systems are reaching the end of their useful life @bevansWink ) but released yesterday.

https://www.tenders.nsw.gov.au/?event=public.rft.show&RFTUUID=33100790-DC75-3FFF-3824CE89B321E04A&utm_source=newops&utm_medium=emailHTML&utm_campaign=newops-20200809-J-L

NSW Government and Queensland Government are planning to undertake a collaborative Multi-Modal Corridor study from Tugun to Tweed Heads South.

Transport for New South Wales (TfNSW) is carrying out the study in response to the Future Transport 2056 - Regional NSW Services and Infrastructure Plan. The plan identifies the need to investigate an extension of the Gold Coast Light Rail to Tweed.

In Queensland, the Shaping SEQ regional plan and the Gold Coast City Transport Strategy propose an extension of the Gold Coast light rail system from Broadbeach to Coolangatta via the Gold Coast Airport. The Queensland Government has released an Expression of Interest (EOI) to the open market for professional services suppliers to deliver a Multi-Modal Corridor Study.

This study is required to investigate the future requirements of the preferred road corridor for walking, cycling, vehicle traffic, buses and a future extension of the Gold Coast Light Rail. The Queensland Study includes corridor planning investigations for Tugun to Coolangatta.

The NSW study includes corridor planning investigations for a southern extension into Tweed which will be the subject of a separate engagement through TfNSW as the Tweed Multimodal Corridor Study.

TfNSW intends to invite only the shortlisted service providers from the Queensland Government’s Expression of Interest (EOI) to a request for tender (RFT) on the Tweed Multi-Modal Corridor Study later this year.

Details on the Queensland Government EOI is available at: https://qtenders.hpw.qld.gov.au/qtenders/tender/display/tender-details.do?action=display-tender-details&id=31013&CSRFNONCE=9F6985582954666832554A9B6DD16DC9  
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  Andrew_Curran Beginner

Look, I know there's politics and borders and who pays for what issues, but there is a theoretical argument to extend the Gold Coast rail link into northern NSW.

I've long thought there was a case for a rail link down the Tweed Coast. Running an extension via OOL down the back of Pottsville, along the freeway towards the Byron interchange and onto Ballina. You could probably shoot a 2020 version of the 2 car rail motor down there once an hour.

What if you took it a step further? Continued past Ballina and tracked the freeway that might open in 2056 all the way to Grafton. It could replace the via Casino/Kyogle line as the main north line. Of course it would need to be standard gauge/dual gauge and that would need to be backtracked up the existing Gold Coast line. Expensive.

The plus is the reasonably dense population belt between Ballina and the border.

But I recognize, even if this thought bubble had legs, it doesn't address the main problem with rail between Sydney and Brisbane. The current link between Brisbane down to Coffs is reasonably speedy - comparable with driving. The slog between Coffs and Newcastle is a nightmare in slow motion.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Look, I know there's politics and borders and who pays for what issues, but there is a theoretical argument to extend the Gold Coast rail link into northern NSW.

I've long thought there was a case for a rail link down the Tweed Coast. Running an extension via OOL down the back of Pottsville, along the freeway towards the Byron interchange and onto Ballina. You could probably shoot a 2020 version of the 2 car rail motor down there once an hour.

What if you took it a step further? Continued past Ballina and tracked the freeway that might open in 2056 all the way to Grafton. It could replace the via Casino/Kyogle line as the main north line. Of course it would need to be standard gauge/dual gauge and that would need to be backtracked up the existing Gold Coast line. Expensive.

The plus is the reasonably dense population belt between Ballina and the border.

But I recognize, even if this thought bubble had legs, it doesn't address the main problem with rail between Sydney and Brisbane. The current link between Brisbane down to Coffs is reasonably speedy - comparable with driving. The slog between Coffs and Newcastle is a nightmare in slow motion.
Andrew_Curran
Apart from Tweed to Kingscliff, the population is very low in number and density and would never justify the construction cost of HR.

You won't replace the line via Kyogle to Brisbane mostly due to gauge but the other issue is that then freights would only have a 4-5h window of access per day without building an extra dedicated track along the existing GC/Beenleigh line.

For the foreseeable future the GC line will eventually one day reach the airport, hopefully by 2030. The LR will however continue south and cross the boarder in a joint funded project towards South Tweed, but I doubt it would even get to Kingscliff.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Not going to happen Andrew. The light rail can come south as far as it wants to but the narrow stuff can stay north of the border thank you very much.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
I've long thought there was a case for a rail link down the Tweed Coast. Running an extension via OOL down the back of Pottsville..... You could probably shoot a 2020 version of the 2 car rail motor down there once an hour.
Andrew_Curran
Service to Pottsville with a 2020 version of the 2 car rail motor down there once an hour, you say. Already happens as the modern rail motor has rubber wheels, and, surprise surprise, does run about once an hour weekdays as per the online timetable.
Tweed City to Pottsville via Kingscliff https://transportnsw.info/routes/details/surfside-buslines/603/06603
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

People in many regional areas are just going to have to get used to the bus. We have the roads and not rail because the old rail lines were never built straight. They were built around every river and mountain and when the modern road system started to get built and road travel became faster the train was left behind and we stopped using it. If rail is ever to make a comeback it will have to be on a new alignment and not the old goat tracks of yesteryear.

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