Fitzroy and North Fitzroy Goods Yards

 
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
The aerial view of the Brunwick Street Oval has proved interesting to both myself and my family. My father-in-law of 88 years age, who lives with us on our property, was shown the photo and immediately identified the house where he lived. It was directly in line with the western goal posts, if you look at the position of the tram, there is two storey house just to the left of the tram, his house was the next one along to the left.

It also brought back memories to me, as I worked in McKean Street, just behind the yards, and running parallel to Queens Parade. That was back in 1972, now kicking myself that I did not spend time down at the yards with a camera.

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  TTrakAndrew Locomotive Driver

Location: St Arnaud Victoria
FITZROY GOODS 1980Having finally located my sketchbook for Fitzroy Goods, I thought I might share my observations with you. I was also delighted to be told at Hobsons Bay Model Railway Club last night that people seem interested in my photographs - who would've thought so when I took them all those years ago huh? 27/03/1980No. 1 Road (adjacent Briquette Depot): NSWPTC BDX - VR VOBX (empties)No. 1 Road (Up side of trailing crossover to No. 2 Road adjacent unloader): NSWPTC bogie open (Listed in notes as HCG but not sure correct)No. 1 Road (adjacent Timber Yard): GY-GY-ANR AOOX (briquettes)No. 3 Road (Bunge Flour warehouse): VLX-VSX (vans)Industries located at Fitzroy Goods: 1. Briquette Depot2. Canterbury Timber Co.3. National Can Company4. Carlton & United Breweries (rail served hopper on No. 3 Road)5. 'Bunge' FlourThere was an additional rail service hopper on No. 4 Road too...?03/04/1980No. 1 Road (adjacent Timber Yard): GY-GY-GY-GY-GY-GY-GY-GY-OBf-VOBX-VOBX (loaded briquettes)No. 1 Road (Up side of trailing crossover to No. 2 Road adjacent unloader): VOBX (being unloaded)No. 3 Road (Bunge Flour warehouse): VLX09/04/1980No. 1 Road (adjacent Briquette Depot): GY-GY-GY-GY_GY-GY...GY-GY-GY (empties)No. 1 Road (Up side of trailing crossover to No. 2 Road adjacent unloader): VOBX (being unloaded)No. 1 Road (adjacent Timber Yard): VOBX-VOBX (loaded with briquettes)...Of-OBf (timber loading being unloaded)No. 4 Road (adjacent National Can Co.): GY (empty)No. 3 Road (between footbridge and CUB Hopper): VLCXNo. 3 Road (Bunge Flour warehouse): VLCX-VLCX17/04/1980No. 1 Road (Up side of trailing crossover to No. 2 Road adjacent unloader): GY-ANR GOX (being unloaded)No. 3 Road (Bunge Flour warehouse): GY-VLCXNo. 1 Road (adjacent Briquette Depot): ANR AOOX-OBf-VOBX-ANR GBX-CR AOOXDown 'Fitzroy Goods': X36-ANR AOMX-ANR Of-ANR AOOX-ZLPNo. 1 Road (adjacent Timber Yard): AOOX-NSWPTC HGW (loaded with briquettes)Hope this is of interest!22/04/1980No. 1 Road (adjacent Briquette Depot): VOBX-NSWPTC BDX-GY-GY-VOBXNo. 1 Road (Up side of trailing crossover to No. 2 Road adjacent unloader): OBf-OBF-AOOXNo. 3 Road (Bunge Flour warehouse): VLCX-VLCXNo. 3 Road (under footbridge): VLCX (empty)No. 4 Road (under footbridge): GY (empty)
"GrahameLowe"

G'day Grahame,
                       Thank-you for this list of observations, it is extremely helpful in learning about the yard and its operations. Where wagons a located can give a better idea of operations not only with shunting by loco, but also use of the tractor with a `pushing plate', or a rail-tractor, which was suggested for Fitzroy Yard somewhere I read but never wrote down.Maybe it was there in the 1960's.
I was wondering about timber traffic and your notes record it still occurring on 09/04/1980.
You have given a basis for `road numbering' which I will add to my XTKCAD plan. The No.3 Road hoppers you have identified as owned/used by Carlton United Breweries. The No.4 road hoppers are, according to a source at H A Chalmers transport, who had trucks using those particular hoppers,  were to take grain to Joe White Maltings in Collingwood. Which leads to an interesting thought: Would the railways have survived if the brewing industry had not existed????
Bunge must have received one to two, even three, VLX type vans just about every time a train came in. Did these vans come from Ballarat Flour Mill, or other places also?
More observations and questions to come.
Grahame, thank-you for your generosity in time to do this. Also thanks to others who are inputting in various ways. The Fitzroy Goods Yard Branch was close to, if not actually, unique, and also comprehend-able and model-able. Obviously it is of benefit and interest to more than myself, which I did not expect at the very beginning, but I am very glad to have seen happen.
The Train Hobby book is on my Christmas `wish list', the question is who to ask to get it?
Regards,
             Andrew G.





  TTrakAndrew Locomotive Driver

Location: St Arnaud Victoria
After a few weeks of other hobby related pursuits I have been able to glue together, stretch out and measure the MMBW plan of the FItzroy area that covers the goods yard area.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85896932@N07/8190641740/
I hope to do some number crunching and produce a scale track plan with current information notes in the next few days.
Also note our new location in Archeology, a gesture made by the moderators recognizing the significance of the information that we have been able to gather together. Thanks to all,
Regards, Andrew G.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
I found another view of the goods yard here, from 1978:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/northcotehystericalsociety/6332777295/in/photostream


  TTrakAndrew Locomotive Driver

Location: St Arnaud Victoria
I found another view of the goods yard here, from 1978:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/northcotehystericalsociety/6332777295/in/photostream

"wongm"


G'day Marcus, Thanks for letting me know about this photo, I had posted it back on August 22nd but as this thread is now so long it is difficult to keep track of what has already been found and what is a `new discovery. Thanks again for taking the time to post it.
There have been omse new Grahame Lowe/Norm Bray photo's, one of which is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60901191@N08/8210843158/
I will get the track plan work done soon! I hope! My recent efforts have been developing some scale drawings of the Yard Office. The main building is essentially a square, or close to one, but there are no clear views of the toilet/shower block on the Bunge warehouse side.
Also the following photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60901191@N08/8085648243/

shows a brown/grey brick building on the Jamieson Street fence line in line with the  Bunge warehouse. any ideas what it was??
Regards, Andrew G.
  TTrakAndrew Locomotive Driver

Location: St Arnaud Victoria
I manged to set aside a bit of time and make calculations from the MMBW 1920's drawings of the goods yard area. When scaled out to N scale using Peco medium radius points the length of the yard itself is 3 metres, as said before, selective compression is the go in any scale but `T' (1:450).
The string of green colored wagons are ELX's and it takes 14 to fill what was used as the arrival road. The single loco is a U.S.A. equivalent of a Y class shunter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85896932@N07/8250703007/

Regards, Andrew G.
  mattwinz75 Beginner

Hello everyone. 

I'm in the planning stages prior to building a 1/4" layout of the Inner Circle circa 1900 including North Fitzroy station and goods yard and Fitzroy (I'll shortly have a bit of space in the attic I'm converting), so I've appreciated this discussion greatly.  The photos and maps have been fantastic.

The closed/forgotten lines of suburban melbourne have always fascinated me.

Again, cheers to all for the information, I'll be interested to see how the N scale Fitzroy layout goes, and I only hope my effort can capture the atmosphere of this closed and mostly forgotten line.

Matt
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
This posted recently



Source and Year Unknown

Shows a B Class heading into the gardens which kind of perplexes the brain since the gardens were a dead end track to a platform.  Why would a goods be entering the short branch from Fitzroy yard?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

This posted recently



Source and Year Unknown

Shows a B Class heading into the gardens which kind of perplexes the brain since the gardens were a dead end track to a platform.  Why would a goods be entering the short branch from Fitzroy yard?
bevans
Gee, this one has been raised from the dead. That train is an up goods. It has left Fitzroy yard and is running through the gardens on the way to North Fitzroy, then via Royal Park back to Melbourne yard.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Resurrecting an ancient thread here is fine if it adds to previous knowledge. Unfortunately Bevan’s pic isn’t showing for me.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Resurrecting an ancient thread here is fine if it adds to previous knowledge. Unfortunately Bevan’s pic isn’t showing for me.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Resurrecting an ancient thread here is fine if it adds to previous knowledge. Unfortunately Bevan’s pic isn’t showing for me.
RustyRick
It was a photo taken from a similar spot to this one of mine. Inside, rather than outside the curve, and the up goods was being hauled by a B class.
https://flic.kr/p/2jBbLpj

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