Shepparton pax rail

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Looking at the map this morning, it looks like the stabling yard will use part of the Dookie line South of Grahamvale Rd.  I hope they put points in so that the Dookie line has a future.
Carnot

Graincorp have been attempting to get access back to that line for a while now. Victrack refusing to cooperate.

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  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Here is the link to the detail

https://engage.vic.gov.au/shepparton-stabling-facility

Re Dookie, im sure there wouldnt be any major issue installing points on the north side of Grahamvale Road and slewing the track across a little bit if that was to be reactivated.  Though whilst ever that line is BG I doubt it will.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Am i right in assuming there is already stabling at the station in Shepparton?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
No i think the train returns to Seymour for stabling each night and goes back up in the morning.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
No i think the train returns to Seymour for stabling each night and goes back up in the morning.
james.au

There were pictures posted on RP somewhere of works already completed.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

The first up Shepparton train is an extension of a Seymour service.  When I looked at the timetable I thought it was odd that it's the only Shepparton train that doesn't require seat reservation.
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
Am i right in assuming there is already stabling at the station in Shepparton?
"bevans"


Yes, you're correct, Bevans.
That was part of the stage 1 works for the Shep line, specifically so they could stable an N set overnight. Stage 2 works are to enable Vlo's to stable, especially if the business case for stage 3 proves viable which is supposed to provide up to 9 services a day. The stage 1 works only provided one road for stabling. Based on that, there is a need to be more sidings to cope with an increased number of Vlo's.

Neil
  route14 Chief Commissioner

An N set with no first class?
  route14 Chief Commissioner

An N set with no first class?
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bored at home
An N set with no first class?
route14
Aren't those called H sets?
  route14 Chief Commissioner

I thought so, but Neil mentioned something different.
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
I thought so, but Neil mentioned something different.
"route14"


Did I? I only referenced an N set being stabled with no mention of an absence of first class and the fact that V'lo's are planned to be used after the upgrades are complete.
Oh, and the contract signing was announced today
Premiers press release here:

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/better-trains-and-safer-journeys-shepparton-line

BTW, Stage 3 is for 10 services, not 9

Neil
  route14 Chief Commissioner

You mean there is an H set AND an N set stabled overnight?  The first up looks like an H set by the fact that no seat reservation is required and there is no first class.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bored at home
You mean there is an H set AND an N set stabled overnight?  The first up looks like an H set by the fact that no seat reservation is required and there is no first class.
route14
And the last down has no reservation, 1st class, buffet. Sounds very much like a "H".

Anybody with a camera?
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
I referenced an N set meaning a loco hauled set. The set could be an H or an N set but based on what has been posted then it probably is an H set

Neil
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Thanks for clarifying that.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
The preferred Shepparton Vlo stabling site has been chosen at Garnhamvale Rd, roughly 3km north of Shep, with comments being requested of locals. No further upgrades of the track between the station and site chosen are required. Contractor is to be announced in 'the coming months' with work to start 'late this year'.

https://regionalrailrevival.vic.gov.au/shepparton/stabling

Neil
ngarner

It is a little challenging to get photos of this location, not sure what the go is, to take hold of the Dookie ROW or buy the space between the two tracks. There is a neat facility for crews - unused - at this location.

On the other hand, this is over the road from Grahamvale school.
Could be lots of objections.  Shocked
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
How many units will be stored in the new facility overnight?
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
How many units will be stored in the new facility overnight?
bevans
The space is not large they are looking to use. Maybee 1 6 car set split in 2? If they use the existing easement as well they may not have to split. This link has more info on the location, as well as how locals can voice their opinion

https://engage.vic.gov.au/shepparton-stabling-facility
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Why would you build an entirely new facility when one is 1/2 built and cars are already stored at Shepparton?
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Why would you build an entirely new facility when one is 1/2 built and cars are already stored at Shepparton?
bevans
"Reasons" i think would be the only logical answer. Perhaps they have run into issues at the existing site. Some rare frog or plant thats been found there probably. Such things have been known to stop or alter projects like this before.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

I thought so, but Neil mentioned something different.


Did I? I only referenced an N set being stabled with no mention of an absence of first class and the fact that V'lo's are planned to be used after the upgrades are complete.
Oh, and the contract signing was announced today
Premiers press release here:

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/better-trains-and-safer-journeys-shepparton-line

BTW, Stage 3 is for 10 services, not 9

Neil
ngarner
Two sets overnight Weekdays Shepp Yard 1 x H set for first Up and 1 x N set second Up.
Read the Media Release carefully.alraedy operating 10 extra trips a week being an early am weedays Down forming 0920 ish Up Shepp. Stage 2 allows V/Locity operation  with no track upgrade speed unknown and no mention of frequency. Stage 3 includes the line upgrade allowing increasing speed, and nine services a day . No announcement as to waht frequency will be run with Stage 2 but presumambly up to 8 return trips could be run on Weekdays with Stage 2 i/S, if it requires Stage 3 works to run 9 return Weekday trips.
  historian Deputy Commissioner

The preferred Shepparton Vlo stabling site has been chosen at Garnhamvale Rd, roughly 3km north of Shep, with comments being requested of locals. No further upgrades of the track between the station and site chosen are required. Contractor is to be announced in 'the coming months' with work to start 'late this year'.

https://regionalrailrevival.vic.gov.au/shepparton/stabling

Neil
ngarner

It is a little challenging to get photos of this location, not sure what the go is, to take hold of the Dookie ROW or buy the space between the two tracks. There is a neat facility for crews - unused - at this location.

On the other hand, this is over the road from Grahamvale school.
Could be lots of objections.  Shocked
"574M"


It's possible that the stabling will be on the Up side of Grahamvale Road. There's about 220 metres between the Down end oil siding points and the Grahamvale Road. If they removed the oil siding, there's nearly 800 metres back to the junction points.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Why would you build an entirely new facility when one is 1/2 built and cars are already stored at Shepparton?
"Reasons" i think would be the only logical answer. Perhaps they have run into issues at the existing site. Some rare frog or plant thats been found there probably. Such things have been known to stop or alter projects like this before.
Galron
The current site is in the railyards.  The frogs and plants have already bee impacted in there methinks.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Why would you build an entirely new facility when one is 1/2 built and cars are already stored at Shepparton?
"Reasons" i think would be the only logical answer. Perhaps they have run into issues at the existing site. Some rare frog or plant thats been found there probably. Such things have been known to stop or alter projects like this before.
The current site is in the railyards.  The frogs and plants have already bee impacted in there methinks.
james.au
Monday  05/10  Feds cucking in $ 300m and Victoria $ 80m =  $ 400m as a capex project over neext copule of years for stage 3 Shepparton Line upgrade , track upgrade to Class-2M Seymour to Shepparton allowing V/Locity to run at 130kmh and offering 2 hour journey time Melbourne to Shepparton . Will allow for further increase in service frequency . Will proceed partly in parallel or hard on heels of existing Stage 2 works. Class 2M track requires typically 53kg rail CWR on ideally concrete sleepers.
Federal Government Media Release - Deputy PM  Mon 05/10/20

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