Hay processor Gilmac starts production in St Arnaud

 
  hally Train Controller

Location: Splitting the Eaton up into 18th
I disagree with your statement that gilmac wont have the same success as ultima if they use the last mile transport as road .

Other bigger operators succeed using road only
Richard stroker
Its pretty much the only way now days.
Put it on a truck (A-Double) its in the wharf in 2.5 hours.
No first mile, no last mile. No timetables to match with every changing vessel schudles.
Let the rail wagons shift bulk grain.

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  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
I disagree with your statement that gilmac wont have the same success as ultima if they use the last mile transport as road .

Other bigger operators succeed using road only
Its pretty much the only way now days.
Put it on a truck (A-Double) its in the wharf in 2.5 hours.
No first mile, no last mile. No timetables to match with every changing vessel schudles.
Let the rail wagons shift bulk grain.
hally
Agree hally, that is what I have been waffling on with form some time, it's a tough market out there.

Again containers from Bordertown with frozen meat to Melbourne ( 450k ) as well as Adeliade, call it 300, so a few hours from    St Arnaud is nothing, same as Horsham. The only down side is if you get held up for a number of hours at the port to be unloaded..... answer to that.. West Ballarat Intermodal.

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Add to that increased costs to any trucks using the port with lower container handling costs for rail deliveries.  This is how you change behaviour. Let's not forget the issue of carbon issues and also road maintenance etc which will drive the cost up for councils.  I am not sure the "last mile" using a doubles has all the costs attached.
  brownhillboy Train Controller

I disagree with your statement that gilmac wont have the same success as ultima if they use the last mile transport as road .

Other bigger operators succeed using road only
Its pretty much the only way now days.
Put it on a truck (A-Double) its in the wharf in 2.5 hours.
No first mile, no last mile. No timetables to match with every changing vessel schudles.
Let the rail wagons shift bulk grain.
hally
Agree hally, that is what I have been waffling on with form some time, it's a tough market out there.

Again containers from Bordertown with frozen meat to Melbourne ( 450k ) as well as Adeliade, call it 300, so a few hours from    St Arnaud is nothing, same as Horsham. The only down side is if you get held up for a number of hours at the port to be unloaded..... answer to that.. West Ballarat Intermodal.

BigShunter.
"BigShunter"


Drove past the Broadbent grain terminal at Ballarat West today. I was amazed by the number of 20ft and 40ft containers on site for loading. If the rail terminal ever gets going, the traffic generated will be huge.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Maybe I should know the answer to this, but is this Ballarat West Intermodal terminal serviced by rail?
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

One consideration with the Ballarat Intermodal Freight Hub is that the proposed terminal is next to the Ballarat – Ararat BG line. Assuming the MBRP is completed, it will be BG Ballarat – Melbourne via Ballan and SG Ballarat – Gheringhap.

If intermodal trains are BG they will have to find paths via the RFR.
If intermodal trains are SG then 5 km of DG track (there's room for a separate SG track) will be required between North Ballarat and the terminal (in the vicinity of the former Linton Junction, west of Wendouree). An alternative would be to SG North Ballarat – Ararat.

The proposal thus far has the State government only kicking in for a set of points and some signalling. If BG is adopted, it should be a requirement of the developer that the sidings be gauge-convertible.

https://www.railexpress.com.au/victorian-intermodal-freight-hub-developer-operator/
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
So if it is Broad Gauge, it will largely be limited to night time freight paths, and if it is Standard Gauge it will have to travel nearly twice as far by rail.

Either way, it doesn't seem to be very competitive with road.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Roughly speaking:

Ballarat - Ballan - Brooklyn: 109 km
Ballarat - North Geelong - Brooklyn: 152 km
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech


Drove past the Broadbent grain terminal at Ballarat West today. I was amazed by the number of 20ft and 40ft containers on site for loading. If the rail terminal ever gets going, the traffic generated will be huge.
brownhillboy

is this another case of the project not being run correctly?

IIRC the feds have provided money now who is in charge of the connection to the terminal from the main line and when is this due to be completed?  things work awfully slow in Victoria.  To all intents and purposes the rail side is already funded.

Will the second track be required between Wendouree and Ballarat West?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW

The stigma of the poor customer service provided by the Government railway department, still lingers on, even though private companies have taken over railway freight (Government departments are still actively throwing spanners In the works to prevent a efficient competitive rail freight system)

Qube and SCT are large Integrated logistic companies, rail freight operations Is only a small part of their business.
Nightfire
Based on what ive seen the stigma of poor customer service still exists in the now privatised government railway....
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Spotted this in the Wimmera MailTimes, bloody pay wall again but have located other articles on the same, thing's going well for the St Arnaud hay plant and remember, this is the same company at Goornong on the North side of Bendigo.

https://stawellonlinenews.com.au/making-hay-big-funding-boost-to-help-grow-jobs-in-st-arnaud-the-stawell-times-news/

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/helping-create-more-jobs-rural-and-regional-victoria

BigShunter.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Cool post @BigShunter are you also thinking a rail siding could be provided to the facility and a second service from Qube could be used for export traffic but being on the SG Hay could also be sent interstate on the gauge?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

It's 4km from the SG line... It'll all be B-double.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
It's 4km from the SG line... It'll all be B-double.
Carnot

Is there an address for this new location?
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Cool post @BigShunter are you also thinking a rail siding could be provided to the facility and a second service from Qube could be used for export traffic but being on the SG Hay could also be sent interstate on the gauge?
NSWGR8022
Go back to the start of the thread, we've already talked the in's and out's of this, if rail was part of their plan, they would have built the plant next to the railway line.

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well those B-Doubles into the Poet of Melbourne will soon be charged a lot more so the genius whop has established the location will driven themselves to more transport cost.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Well those B-Doubles into the Poet of Melbourne will soon be charged a lot more so the genius whop has established the location will driven themselves to more transport cost.
bevans
We have answered that one too, bevans, you and DangerousDan747 should hurry up and open the West Ballarat Freight Hub Idea

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well those B-Doubles into the Poet of Melbourne will soon be charged a lot more so the genius whop has established the location will driven themselves to more transport cost.
We have answered that one too, bevans, you and DangerousDan747 should hurry up and open the West Ballarat Freight Hub Idea

BigShunter.
BigShunter

I made myself a note to talk with the City of Ballarat once again but have been a little busy this week.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Not good news at all for the Gilmac hay plant at St Arnaud, huge blaze going at present.

???????? POTENTIALLY 8000 BALES LOST IN ST ARNAUD FIRE

A fire has decimated a hay shed at a new processing plant in St Arnaud.

Authorities attended a fire at the Gilmac hay processing facility on Sunday morning at approximately 7:30am.

CFA District 16 commander Ian Morley said the fire had spread through a 150x50 metre hay shed when crews arrived.

"It contains approximately 8000 large square bails, all within the confines of a relatively new shed at this large complex," he said


https://www.facebook.com/abcwimmera/photos/a.119616014725077/4202673023086002/?type=3&theater

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/st-arnaud-hay-shed-fire-raging-out-of-control/news-story/5d6fbc976a121b6bb280874ff8917cc0

BigShunter.

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