Update on Dorrigo?

 

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  4206 Chief Commissioner

Location: Dorrigo yard
According to the latest Roundhouse magazine (The Sector Report) they have bought 4918 in working condition from 3801 Limited for $77,000

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  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
in working condition
4206

They'll soon fix that.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
maybe for hire work?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
maybe for hire work?
"Dangersdan707"
Where would they base the loco, and who would maintain it?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
maybe for hire work?
Where would they base the loco, and who would maintain it?
Valvegear
Maybe they will supply a rubber tyred trailer to take it from job to job? Rolling Eyes
  ivahri Train Controller

maybe for hire work?
Dangersdan707
Rail cleaning in Dorrigo yard.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

According to the latest Roundhouse magazine (in an insert that I can't just remember the name) they have bought 4918 in working condition from 3801 Limited for around $70,000+
4206
For $70K they could have moved the loco sitting in that paddock. Doesn't seem to be any priorities.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

According to the latest Roundhouse magazine (in an insert that I can't just remember the name) they have bought 4918 in working condition from 3801 Limited for around $70,000+
For $70K they could have moved the loco sitting in that paddock. Doesn't seem to be any priorities.
nswtrains
Haven't been to that Red Bending paddock for 25 years. Loco has not moved. Any damage that could have done by vandalism or souvenir hunters has been.
The environment in that area is far less conducive to iron oxide production, than Dorrigo.   Even if it's flooded up to the footplate from time to time. Will never run again in steam, probably better where it is. Is there any storage fees? if so it's a liability.
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner

4918 was hauled to Cardiff by G513 on the 9th of February and will be trucked to Dorrigo from there.
BW
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Found this old footage, recently posted on YouTube.
There is a part 2. No link, easy to find.
Just a massive undertaking. No further commentary from me.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_axqZ3pwqJ8
  apw5910 Chief Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Found this old footage, recently posted on YouTube.
There is a part 2. No link, easy to find.
Just a massive undertaking. No further commentary from me.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_axqZ3pwqJ8
michaelgm
There are more on

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpeLbDjSKcFXauLjNjs83Cw

Seems Railpage is set to display a video box for a youtube url, even if there's no video on the page so linked. That link is to David Page's Uploads videos page.
  georges Chief Train Controller

Where have all the old trains gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the old trains gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the old trains gone?
Gone to graveyards every one
Long time ago

With apologies to Pete Seeger
  apw5910 Chief Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Where have all the old trains gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the old trains gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the old trains gone?
Gone to graveyards every one
Long time ago

With apologies to Pete Seeger
georges
Where have all the museum graveyards gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Covered with apartments every one
When will we ever learn?

Even more apologies to Pete Seeger
  sam6778 Junior Train Controller

Location: Rockingham, WA
4918 was hauled to Cardiff by G513 on the 9th of February and will be trucked to Dorrigo from there.
BW
Bevan Wall
Is 4918 still sitting at Cardiff?  Cheers.
  OldSteamer Locomotive Driver

Location: Brisbane
Couldn't help but notice in Scott McGregor's next itinerary North by North West

"The route we take begins with the boarding of our Railmotor for the journey up the coast to the popular holiday city of Port Macquarie. We introduce the legacy of the timber industry and the associated connection with narrow gauge railways at Wauchope before ascending the ranges via Bellingen to Dorrigo and along the Waterfall Way to Armidale."

Tour Leader: Scott McGregor and Friends
Price: $3,465
Single Supplement: $345
ARHS Discount: $150
Date: 9 Sep 2021 – 14 Sep 2021

a private guided tour with Keith?

the brochure speaks of a pub lunch at Dorrigo and a "guided tour of the town"
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Couldn't help but notice in Scott McGregor's next itinerary North by North West

"The route we take begins with the boarding of our Railmotor for the journey up the coast to the popular holiday city of Port Macquarie. We introduce the legacy of the timber industry and the associated connection with narrow gauge railways at Wauchope before ascending the ranges via Bellingen to Dorrigo and along the Waterfall Way to Armidale."

Tour Leader: Scott McGregor and Friends
Price: $3,465
Single Supplement: $345
ARHS Discount: $150
Date: 9 Sep 2021 – 14 Sep 2021

Looks like a private guided tour with Keith.

Way to go. Probably the realistic future of Dorrigo (ie specialised private guided tours"

Dorrigo represents an investment of shareholders' funds to the tune of $9 million.  It is not in the public domain and should never be.

At a cost of $3465" Scott is clearly pitching it to the dedicated aficionados (people who appreciate and know what a railway museum is all about, and who no doubt have international railway travel experience)
OldSteamer
Nothing in what youve posted above suggests any tour of the Museum - just a visit to Dorrigo town itself?
  a6et Minister for Railways

Couldn't help but notice in Scott McGregor's next itinerary North by North West

"The route we take begins with the boarding of our Railmotor for the journey up the coast to the popular holiday city of Port Macquarie. We introduce the legacy of the timber industry and the associated connection with narrow gauge railways at Wauchope before ascending the ranges via Bellingen to Dorrigo and along the Waterfall Way to Armidale."

Tour Leader: Scott McGregor and Friends
Price: $3,465
Single Supplement: $345
ARHS Discount: $150
Date: 9 Sep 2021 – 14 Sep 2021

Looks like a private guided tour with Keith.

Way to go. Probably the realistic future of Dorrigo (ie specialised private guided tours"

Dorrigo represents an investment of shareholders' funds to the tune of $9 million.  It is not in the public domain and should never be.

At a cost of $3465" Scott is clearly pitching it to the dedicated aficionados (people who appreciate and know what a railway museum is all about, and who no doubt have international railway travel experience)
Nothing in what youve posted above suggests any tour of the Museum - just a visit to Dorrigo town itself?
james.au
In previous years when Scott McGregor had these tours on a yearly basis covering pretty much the same areas, it always included a visti to rust and rotting museum.

Its a highly expensive trip for 5 days, what difference is the price for return rail to Perth, or Darwin?
  OldSteamer Locomotive Driver

Location: Brisbane
I have just happened to come across a Facebook page listed as "Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum"

It even contains a link to the authorised web page of Dorrigo "http://www.dsrm.org.au/"

This facebook page has me puzzled.

Was it / or is it- for real?

I know how averse Keith Jones is to social media (for good reason- given the hordes of trolls that infest it- especially when it comes to do with anything remotely concerning Dorrigo Museum).

Does anyone know who created this facebook page?

I looked down what that person had written on the page and noticed the following "The museum's origins stem from the formation of the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum Limited in 1973"

Anyone remotely familiar with this group knows the exact date that the company limited by guarantee was formed and registered
and it certainly isn't 1973.

Then that person also  opines " The museum was opened very briefly in 1986, but has been described as "not yet open to the public" ever since.


That same person then continues "On 5 April 1986 the line was opened through to Dorrigo, with a steam hauled service hauled by 3028 and 5069, operating the first service... before operations could begin, a faction within the Museum's membership commenced legal action over the ownership of the collection and the line fell back into a state of disrepair. The dispute was finally resolved in February 1999 with the Glenreagh to Ulong section of the line sold to the Glenreagh Mountain Railway and the Ulong to Dorrigo section sold to the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum"


I am sure that is not correct.

Facebook can be wacko land at times. But at least this page has some recent photos of the collection, including the latest addition still sitting on the low loader, so maybe we should be grateful for small mercies, seeing the photos on the Museum's authorised page were taken about 20 years ago.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Facebook can be wacko land at times. But at least this page has some recent photos of the collection, including the latest addition still sitting on the low loader, so maybe we should be grateful for small mercies, seeing the photos on the Museum's authorised page were taken about 20 years ago.
"OldSteamer"
I looked for mercies but couldn't find any; large or small.
The collection there is a hoard, pure and simple. Calling Dorrigo a museum is like calling Crown Casino a charity.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I have just happened to come across a Facebook page listed as "Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum"

It even contains a link to the authorised web page of Dorrigo "http://www.dsrm.org.au/"

This facebook page has me puzzled.

Was it / or is it- for real?

I know how averse Keith Jones is to social media (for good reason- given the hordes of trolls that infest it- especially when it comes to do with anything remotely concerning Dorrigo Museum).

Does anyone know who created this facebook page?

I looked down what that person had written on the page and noticed the following "The museum's origins stem from the formation of the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum Limited in 1973"

Anyone remotely familiar with this group knows the exact date that the company limited by guarantee was formed and registered
and it certainly isn't 1973.

Then that person also  opines " The museum was opened very briefly in 1986, but has been described as "not yet open to the public" ever since.


That same person then continues "On 5 April 1986 the line was opened through to Dorrigo, with a steam hauled service hauled by 3028 and 5069, operating the first service... before operations could begin, a faction within the Museum's membership commenced legal action over the ownership of the collection and the line fell back into a state of disrepair. The dispute was finally resolved in February 1999 with the Glenreagh to Ulong section of the line sold to the Glenreagh Mountain Railway and the Ulong to Dorrigo section sold to the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum"


I am sure that is not correct.

Facebook can be wacko land at times. But at least this page has some recent photos of the collection, including the latest addition still sitting on the low loader, so maybe we should be grateful for small mercies, seeing the photos on the Museum's authorised page were taken about 20 years ago.
OldSteamer
I happened to pass by that way a week or so ago was "lucky' enough to be enlightened by the main man himself and be given a quick 15 minuet tour (that happened to last for 2 hours:lol:), trying to rope anyone who comes by into joining his museum.  


That Facebook page you mentioned (this the one I linked presumably), is just one created by the website as a point of interest that people can say they have been, using publicly available data from sites such as Wikipedia. Theres pages like that for organisations that have pages also. I did happen to ask Keith why they hadn't bothered to keep up with the times and the online presence and to quote him "we have too much stuff to do than fiddle around with that", "way too much to do". No, the page mentioned is not for real.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=135393903162056&__tn__=C-R  


As for an Actual "update" on things going on, Keith blames the council for not letting him demolish a hill to fit more stuff in and build a triangle (Then part of a Shed would go in). The other "update" is the former Tallangatta Porter from Wodonga that you mentioned earlier is now onsite, still sitting on a low loader. Next in line he says for transport are the Electric locos and cranes in Tamworth, then the Garratt from Forbes, then the SMR 10 class assuming they can get a shed up for them due to the National trust bar. Oh and the Transport heritage NSW gave them a grant to stop the remaining timber cars from rotting into nothing for the time being.

The current Charity was established in 1989 if you're wondering, as the original organisation fell apart largely due to it being I understand, a dictatorship by Jones, funnelling of money to unrelated personal pet projects and the incessant collecting of things rather than running trains and developing the appropriate infrastructure to do such.

https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/9e4828d0c98244aa1a1efeaa4e78956d
  georges Chief Train Controller
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Deja vu, all over again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFf0VSqSEzk
georges
Way to steal my thunder
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

I have just happened to come across a Facebook page listed as "Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum"

It even contains a link to the authorised web page of Dorrigo "http://www.dsrm.org.au/"

This facebook page has me puzzled.

Was it / or is it- for real?

I know how averse Keith Jones is to social media (for good reason- given the hordes of trolls that infest it- especially when it comes to do with anything remotely concerning Dorrigo Museum).

Does anyone know who created this facebook page?

I looked down what that person had written on the page and noticed the following "The museum's origins stem from the formation of the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum Limited in 1973"

Anyone remotely familiar with this group knows the exact date that the company limited by guarantee was formed and registered
and it certainly isn't 1973.

Then that person also  opines " The museum was opened very briefly in 1986, but has been described as "not yet open to the public" ever since.


That same person then continues "On 5 April 1986 the line was opened through to Dorrigo, with a steam hauled service hauled by 3028 and 5069, operating the first service... before operations could begin, a faction within the Museum's membership commenced legal action over the ownership of the collection and the line fell back into a state of disrepair. The dispute was finally resolved in February 1999 with the Glenreagh to Ulong section of the line sold to the Glenreagh Mountain Railway and the Ulong to Dorrigo section sold to the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum"


I am sure that is not correct.

Facebook can be wacko land at times. But at least this page has some recent photos of the collection, including the latest addition still sitting on the low loader, so maybe we should be grateful for small mercies, seeing the photos on the Museum's authorised page were taken about 20 years ago.
I happened to pass by that way a week or so ago was "lucky' enough to be enlightened by the main man himself and be given a quick 15 minuet tour (that happened to last for 2 hours:lol:), trying to rope anyone who comes by into joining his museum.  


That Facebook page you mentioned (this the one I linked presumably), is just one created by the website as a point of interest that people can say they have been, using publicly available data from sites such as Wikipedia. Theres pages like that for organisations that have pages also. I did happen to ask Keith why they hadn't bothered to keep up with the times and the online presence and to quote him "we have too much stuff to do than fiddle around with that", "way too much to do". No, the page mentioned is not for real.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=135393903162056&__tn__=C-R  


As for an Actual "update" on things going on, Keith blames the council for not letting him demolish a hill to fit more stuff in and build a triangle (Then part of a Shed would go in). The other "update" is the former Tallangatta Porter from Wodonga that you mentioned earlier is now onsite, still sitting on a low loader. Next in line he says for transport are the Electric locos and cranes in Tamworth, then the Garratt from Forbes, then the SMR 10 class assuming they can get a shed up for them due to the National trust bar. Oh and the Transport heritage NSW gave them a grant to stop the remaining timber cars from rotting into nothing for the time being.

The current Charity was established in 1989 if you're wondering, as the original organisation fell apart largely due to it being I understand, a dictatorship by Jones, funnelling of money to unrelated personal pet projects and the incessant collecting of things rather than running trains and developing the appropriate infrastructure to do such.

https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/9e4828d0c98244aa1a1efeaa4e78956d
Dangersdan707
From my outsider perspective, this what I gather to be correct. How much was membership and what was offer for your coin? Aside from building a monument.

Too much stuff to do? Seriously, WTF would you want electric locos 500kms from any wires?
Some Coffs locals were utterly stoked in around ‘85/86, due to the tourist potential and,,,
  georges Chief Train Controller
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I have just happened to come across a Facebook page listed as "Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum"

It even contains a link to the authorised web page of Dorrigo "http://www.dsrm.org.au/"

This facebook page has me puzzled.

Was it / or is it- for real?

I know how averse Keith Jones is to social media (for good reason- given the hordes of trolls that infest it- especially when it comes to do with anything remotely concerning Dorrigo Museum).

Does anyone know who created this facebook page?

I looked down what that person had written on the page and noticed the following "The museum's origins stem from the formation of the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum Limited in 1973"

Anyone remotely familiar with this group knows the exact date that the company limited by guarantee was formed and registered
and it certainly isn't 1973.

Then that person also  opines " The museum was opened very briefly in 1986, but has been described as "not yet open to the public" ever since.


That same person then continues "On 5 April 1986 the line was opened through to Dorrigo, with a steam hauled service hauled by 3028 and 5069, operating the first service... before operations could begin, a faction within the Museum's membership commenced legal action over the ownership of the collection and the line fell back into a state of disrepair. The dispute was finally resolved in February 1999 with the Glenreagh to Ulong section of the line sold to the Glenreagh Mountain Railway and the Ulong to Dorrigo section sold to the Dorrigo Steam Railway & Museum"


I am sure that is not correct.

Facebook can be wacko land at times. But at least this page has some recent photos of the collection, including the latest addition still sitting on the low loader, so maybe we should be grateful for small mercies, seeing the photos on the Museum's authorised page were taken about 20 years ago.
I happened to pass by that way a week or so ago was "lucky' enough to be enlightened by the main man himself and be given a quick 15 minuet tour (that happened to last for 2 hours:lol:), trying to rope anyone who comes by into joining his museum.  


That Facebook page you mentioned (this the one I linked presumably), is just one created by the website as a point of interest that people can say they have been, using publicly available data from sites such as Wikipedia. Theres pages like that for organisations that have pages also. I did happen to ask Keith why they hadn't bothered to keep up with the times and the online presence and to quote him "we have too much stuff to do than fiddle around with that", "way too much to do". No, the page mentioned is not for real.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=135393903162056&__tn__=C-R  


As for an Actual "update" on things going on, Keith blames the council for not letting him demolish a hill to fit more stuff in and build a triangle (Then part of a Shed would go in). The other "update" is the former Tallangatta Porter from Wodonga that you mentioned earlier is now onsite, still sitting on a low loader. Next in line he says for transport are the Electric locos and cranes in Tamworth, then the Garratt from Forbes, then the SMR 10 class assuming they can get a shed up for them due to the National trust bar. Oh and the Transport heritage NSW gave them a grant to stop the remaining timber cars from rotting into nothing for the time being.

The current Charity was established in 1989 if you're wondering, as the original organisation fell apart largely due to it being I understand, a dictatorship by Jones, funnelling of money to unrelated personal pet projects and the incessant collecting of things rather than running trains and developing the appropriate infrastructure to do such.

https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/9e4828d0c98244aa1a1efeaa4e78956d
From my outsider perspective, this what I gather to be correct. How much was membership and what was offer for your coin? Aside from building a monument.

Too much stuff to do? Seriously, WTF would you want electric locos 500kms from any wires?
Some Coffs locals were utterly stoked in around ‘85/86, due to the tourist potential and,,,
michaelgm
The leaflet he handed me said $50yr for just being a member and another $60yr for a monthly newsletter. Claims 900ish members globally.

I did ask him about down sizing and the response was god no, even just allocating items for care still being under there ownership, response was god no. The exact same can be said about some of the Heavier steam locos, the C38 they got, the Garrats. I believe they were too heavy for the Dorrigo branch, assuming anything is left of it beyond Dorrigo yard and GMR! The only electric stock one would logically want up there are trailers, that's it.

As Tim Fisher put it best, "Dorrigo, A crying shame"

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