Welcome to Trump town

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The three best words of the day:- "Former President Trump."

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  apw5910 Chief Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
The three best words of the day:- "Former President Trump."
Valvegear
Re-title the thread "Farewell to Trump Town."

Or "Good Riddance. Don't let the door hit you on the way out."
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Good lord, its finally over. Shall be interesting how the history books remember this fellow. Anyway, Biden just overturned a bunch of Trumps signature decisions and polices. Amazing how quick things can just change.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-21/joe-biden-issues-executive-orders-ends-funds-for-wall/13077112
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Good lord, its finally over. Shall be interesting how the history books remember this fellow. Anyway, Biden just overturned a bunch of Trumps signature decisions and polices. Amazing how quick things can just change.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-21/joe-biden-issues-executive-orders-ends-funds-for-wall/13077112
Dangersdan707
Many orders that I would agree with, but a few I would disagree with as well.

Trump's nicked off to Mar-a-Lago.  I suppose this thread can fall silent for a few years?  Or will he create a new political party in the wake of the GOP's impending implosion?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Good lord, its finally over. Shall be interesting how the history books remember this fellow. Anyway, Biden just overturned a bunch of Trumps signature decisions and polices. Amazing how quick things can just change.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-21/joe-biden-issues-executive-orders-ends-funds-for-wall/13077112
Many orders that I would agree with, but a few I would disagree with as well.

Trump's nicked off to Mar-a-Lago.  I suppose this thread can fall silent for a few years?  Or will he create a new political party in the wake of the GOP's impending implosion?
Carnot
I hope that racist divisive git gets found guilty in the many scams that he has pulled. Trump University anyone? And I hope that get serves time.

Anyone who courts White Supremist groups and worth sweet f.a as far as I am concerned. No credibility whatsoever.

Good Riddance. Deuces.


Michael
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I guess we should have woken up to what the USA (and the world) was getting on the day of Trump's inauguration. He made the absurd claim that the crowd was "a million or a million and a half". Film of Obama's crowd showed conclusively that Trump's was far less.

However, that started Trump's refusal to acknowledge facts and tell what ever porkies he wanted, and it went on for the next four years, culminating is his lies about the election.

How much damage he did is incalculable.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I guess we should have woken up to what the USA (and the world) was getting on the day of Trump's inauguration. He made the absurd claim that the crowd was "a million or a million and a half". Film of Obama's crowd showed conclusively that Trump's was far less.

However, that started Trump's refusal to acknowledge facts and tell what ever porkies he wanted, and it went on for the next four years, culminating is his lies about the election.

How much damage he did is incalculable.
Valvegear
Give Crazy Joe fair time to settle in and find all the buttons...

Why do you think Nancy Pelosi was whinging about a 25th Amendment kick-out (which Mike Pence thankfully didn't stoop to), they're already thinking about that for Joe, telegraphing it in just in case the public still isn't prepared when it actually happens. In comparison the very few things that Trump actually got around to doing were negligible even if you're trying to say that they're all a hundred percent bad.

They should get some tips from Russia in giving a dead leader an appearance of life - Brezhnev wasn't alive at all in his last few years I'm pretty sure. Not that the United States doesn't already have form prior to Biden, Reagan was being managed a bit by Nancy and his handlers towards the end of his tenure and maybe wasn't all there (as per his testimony at Iran/Contra - it was probably true that he had no clue).
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I am not going to pre-judge Biden. I will wait and see how he performs.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

I AM going to prejudge Biden. A career Polly and former VP. Obama third term (coma).

In a heavily divided nation, he will find it impossible to balance energy policy, environment, economy and health. His CCP/foreign policy will be interesting given what they were overseeing in the SCS during the bama era.

The dems despite their majority in both houses and the executive, will fracture because the left and the middle are in a power struggle. Look at Nancy v AOC. Those with vested interests will crack the party in half and this could open a gaping hole in 2024 for the return of Trump/ism. So many Dem voters (dead or alive) will be disillusioned.

Keep the thread warm. Biden will NOT be getting a second term. Will be lucky to see out his first. I agree with Don - he will be deposed from within, by not so faceless people.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I AM going to prejudge Biden. A career Polly and former VP. Obama third term (coma).

In a heavily divided nation, he will find it impossible to balance energy policy, environment, economy and health. His CCP/foreign policy will be interesting given what they were overseeing in the SCS during the bama era.

The dems despite their majority in both houses and the executive, will fracture because the left and the middle are in a power struggle. Look at Nancy v AOC. Those with vested interests will crack the party in half and this could open a gaping hole in 2024 for the return of Trump/ism. So many Dem voters (dead or alive) will be disillusioned.

Keep the thread warm. Biden will NOT be getting a second term. Will be lucky to see out his first. I agree with Don - he will be deposed from within, by not so faceless people.
ANR
I can't see Trump ever running again though - even the most ardent of supporters must have been disappointed with his behaviour after the election, it was quite unbecoming really. You either come up with evidence of the allegations or concede. What Trump has done though is set the future model for others to follow in his footsteps; he managed to capture a lot of the traditional Democratic heartland in the rustbelt states "flyover" kind of people who felt they were being ignored and to a large extent they still are; the political landscape tilted significantly with the advent of Trump. Old party loyalties by 'class' aren't being followed any longer, just like Labor heartland being lost to the LNP in the 2019 election.

I think a more likely scenario in 2024 will be a ticket that either has Trump as Vice President or simply a Trump ally who will appoint him to a key position once in office. Trump will be 78 by then, I don't think he will run again as President - he doesn't need to, he can just get himself a proxy like Biden is for the Obama/Clintons.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
I AM going to prejudge Biden. A career Polly and former VP. Obama third term (coma).

In a heavily divided nation, he will find it impossible to balance energy policy, environment, economy and health. His CCP/foreign policy will be interesting given what they were overseeing in the SCS during the bama era.

The dems despite their majority in both houses and the executive, will fracture because the left and the middle are in a power struggle. Look at Nancy v AOC. Those with vested interests will crack the party in half and this could open a gaping hole in 2024 for the return of Trump/ism. So many Dem voters (dead or alive) will be disillusioned.

Keep the thread warm. Biden will NOT be getting a second term. Will be lucky to see out his first. I agree with Don - he will be deposed from within, by not so faceless people.
I can't see Trump ever running again though - even the most ardent of supporters must have been disappointed with his behaviour after the election, it was quite unbecoming really. You either come up with evidence of the allegations or concede. What Trump has done though is set the future model for others to follow in his footsteps; he managed to capture a lot of the traditional Democratic heartland in the rustbelt states "flyover" kind of people who felt they were being ignored and to a large extent they still are; the political landscape tilted significantly with the advent of Trump. Old party loyalties by 'class' aren't being followed any longer, just like Labor heartland being lost to the LNP in the 2019 election.

I think a more likely scenario in 2024 will be a ticket that either has Trump as Vice President or simply a Trump ally who will appoint him to a key position once in office. Trump will be 78 by then, I don't think he will run again as President - he doesn't need to, he can just get himself a proxy like Biden is for the Obama/Clintons.
don_dunstan

Totally agree, any thoughts of Trump coming back is wishful thinking for numerous reasons and apart from the fact he burnt his bridge when departing with much of his support base he will also not be a young man in 4 years time. I also think health wise Trump is unlikely to be in the same league as Bidden or past Presidents unless he changes his lifestyle.

I don't see Trump running for VP, seriously who would have them on his ticket? He is damaged goods with the more marginal voters they need to win. And for the potential President he is a verbal timebomb and completely untrustworthy. Trump also will never play 2nd fiddle to anyone. During his term in the white house, it was a one man show.

Trump wanted a 2nd term for sure and during the next 4 years elevate one of his off-spring such as Ivanka to a position they could run for 2024. His problem is now the "Trump" brand is dead which is fortunate as does the US really need another Presidential dynasty like the Kennedys?                      

Trump was a popularist saying what many people wanted to hear, not unlike Australia's Pauline. But unlike most popularists he actually got the job and proved well and truly its very easy to sit on the fence and mouth off but once in the chair, well things are not as easy as it seems.

Biden as a one term wonder is basically the world's worst secret. Will he be formally dumped, of course not (well unless the US has been using Australian PM's as their model), he was nominated for President now because of his credibility as a former VP, a safe bet to help them take on Trump without another Hillary crash in the dying days. Biden should have been given the chance in 2016 and they would have likely won had they done so. Trump, having failed again would then have unlikely run in 2020.

Anyway, watch this space but my prediction in early 2023, Biden will announce he will not be running for a 2nd term claiming health matters and that Kamala Harris is his recommendation and she will be nominated and likely win with the Republican candidate being someone likely to be less than 60.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

The immediate issue is whether Trump will be eligible to contest the next election. Former Vice President Mike Pence might be playing a different endgame. Had he invoked the 25th Amendment, he would have copped all the blame and Trump would still be eligible to run in 2023. As it was, he copped enough from the Trump nutters. As Pence is now out of it, he, and others, can work behind the scenes to get Trump convicted, disqualified and enhance his chances of Republican nomination.

PS: The Republican party has it work cut out for it. Only once since 1990 (George W Bush, 2nd term) has its candidate gained a popular vote majority.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The immediate issue is whether Trump will be eligible to contest the next election. Former Vice President Mike Pence might be playing a different endgame. Had he invoked the 25th Amendment, he would have copped all the blame and Trump would still be eligible to run in 2023. As it was, he copped enough from the Trump nutters. As Pence is now out of it, he, and others, can work behind the scenes to get Trump convicted, disqualified and enhance his chances of Republican nomination.

PS: The Republican party has it work cut out for it. Only once since 1990 (George W Bush, 2nd term) has its candidate gained a popular vote majority.
kitchgp
The smart move from all concerned would be for senior Republicans to mediate a cease-fire where further progress on the Senate Trial would be suspended in return for Trump staying out of politics.

Trump is yesterday's news. If he can stay out of the way there's no need to keep going after him.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Sound as it may be, how would you enforce such a move, given the inveterate liar that Trump is?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
The immediate issue is whether Trump will be eligible to contest the next election. Former Vice President Mike Pence might be playing a different endgame. Had he invoked the 25th Amendment, he would have copped all the blame and Trump would still be eligible to run in 2023. As it was, he copped enough from the Trump nutters. As Pence is now out of it, he, and others, can work behind the scenes to get Trump convicted, disqualified and enhance his chances of Republican nomination.

PS: The Republican party has it work cut out for it. Only once since 1990 (George W Bush, 2nd term) has its candidate gained a popular vote majority.
The smart move from all concerned would be for senior Republicans to mediate a cease-fire where further progress on the Senate Trial would be suspended in return for Trump staying out of politics.

Trump is yesterday's news. If he can stay out of the way there's no need to keep going after him.
justapassenger
Reading a few editorials in the media on what some people think Mike Pence would do, running for Pres in 2024 isn't ruled out, but they are not predicting it either and that  his commercial value exceeds what he will get as President.

Anyway, lets see.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Sound as it may be, how would you enforce such a move, given the inveterate liar that Trump is?
kitchgp
The only enforceable bit is that he wouldn't get the Republican nomination. One could reasonably anticipate Pence getting it.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
More damning evidence Trump ignored and then hoped Coronavirus would just go away.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/graphs-i-never-made-trump-s-virus-adviser-says-misinformation-and-denial-rife-20210125-p56wjq.htm

AND...

No COVID vaccine distribution plan.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-trump-administration-had-no-distribution-plan-for-the-coronavirus-vaccine-white-house-says

Isn't it odd this damning stuff doesn't make the Murdoch Foxtel and other loony RIGHT media. I guess if you don't believe the Coronavirus exists...why bother with a distribution plan Question

I also wonder how long it will be before the spokesperson from SA finds a loony right media link that says Biden was responsible for the pandemic.

Mike
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Sound as it may be, how would you enforce such a move, given the inveterate liar that Trump is?
kitchgp
The only enforceable bit is that he wouldn't get the Republican nomination. One could reasonably anticipate Pence getting it.
Valvegear
Candidates are essentially selected by the rank and file of the party. There's little senior Republicans could do to block selection.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Thank god the US dodged a bullet with this geezer. Man Trump called the secret service on George Lopez, a Latino Comedian because he told a joke that the Orange one did not like. Really? That is a stunt that Putin would pull. People are willing to overlook is corruption, cronyism, rank incompetence, casual racism, all for what. Because some like the fact that under Trump they feel that the can use the n-word without feeling a hint of guilt.

The Democratic Party is far from perfect and if and when the Dems stuff up I will call them out and I have on numerous occasions. Trump supporters on the other hand will support their man no matter what. The cherry on the top was the Dems taking over the Senate, not least because of the first African American Senator and the First Jewish Senator from that state has kicked out two thieving corrupt Republican bottom feeders in Perdue and Loeffler, who made loads of money out of the Covid crisis. And the GOP now are full of ar$eholes like those two. Biden should forget about trying to Unite the Political spectrum People like Marco Rubio crapping on about reconciliation and Unity. Maate tell that to Ana Navarro, Amanda Carpenter, Terese Setmayer, Rick Wilson, Mitt Romney, Johnny Isaakson, Cindy McCain, Michael Steel. The amount of abuse they have had to endure and they are Republicans. And quite frankly why should it be left to Biden to heal what was caused by the tosser in chief.


Michael
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Candidates are essentially selected by the rank and file of the party. There's little senior Republicans could do to block selection.
"kitchgp"
Without knowing the Republican Party's rules, it's a little difficult to comment.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Sound as it may be, how would you enforce such a move, given the inveterate liar that Trump is?
The only enforceable bit is that he wouldn't get the Republican nomination. One could reasonably anticipate Pence getting it.
Candidates are essentially selected by the rank and file of the party. There's little senior Republicans could do to block selection.
kitchgp
Didn't they try at one point to side line Trump?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
...

I also wonder how long it will be before the spokesperson from SA finds a loony right media link that says Biden was responsible for the pandemic.

Mike
The Vinelander
See here you are mewling like a lost puppy, begging for me to come back and chat with you.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Valvegear, you know what was even more appropriate. The Band playing "Hit the road Jack" as his fat tukkas was leaving the White House.

Goodbye and Good Riddance. Deuces!!


Michael
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Sound as it may be, how would you enforce such a move, given the inveterate liar that Trump is?
kitchgp
By voting in the Senate to both convict Trump and bar him from running in further federal elections again.

My previous post is now obsolete as the Article of Impeachment has now been presented to the Senate and any hopes of a cease-fire have passed. Republicans are now wedged, with just two weeks to decide whether they will handcuff themselves to Trump for at least the next four years or quit him now.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

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