ATSB Investigation

 
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2021/rair/ro-2021-001/

Even the wagon number appears wrong?

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  M636C Minister for Railways

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2021/rair/ro-2021-001/

Even the wagon number appears wrong?
YM-Mundrabilla
The number in earlier reports was as shown in the summary...

NDHX 1436G was reported as a sleeper wagon ("D" as the second letter having stood for "Departmental Use" as some earlier time.) 1436 is the type of number allocated to departmental stock in NSW.

The question is: How did a wagon intended for sleeper transport end up carrying lead concentrate containers in a PN Whyalla to Newcastle service.

Some sleeper wagons have ISO container frames to carry the sleepers and these could have been removed and replaced by lead concentrate containers.

But the wagon should belong to Sydney Trains or the ARTC rather than Pacific National...

On the other hand, if it were a NQHX, which have numbers in the 144xx series and belong to PN, it might just be a misreading of the wagon number.

An old listing shows the numbers in the 1400s belonged to ballast hoppers that should still be using them...

Peter
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
The check letter does not match the wagon class/number quoted and, as M636C has suggested, it seems that there is perhaps a numeric missing from the wagon number (at least). The wagon class might well be wrong too?
  lowtensionearth Station Master

Approximately ten years ago now Pacific National converted a number of NQHX wagons to NDHX concrete sleeper wagons in conjunction with ARTC resleepering programs. Pacific National retained ownership of the wagons which were converted to compliment the conversion of the NQZA type to RDTF. Now surplus, Pacific National has removed the sleeper frames from a number of NDHX and returned them to steel and container traffic. Unfortunately in some cases the wagons have retained the NDHX code despite no longer being in sleeper traffic.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Forgive me but how did the wagon get so far in the network being out of gauge?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Forgive me but how did the wagon get so far in the network being out of gauge?
NSWGR8022
IF the so far suspect ATSB Report is to be believed the wagon underframe failed structurally.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Approximately ten years ago now Pacific National converted a number of NQHX wagons to NDHX concrete sleeper wagons in conjunction with ARTC resleepering programs. Pacific National retained ownership of the wagons which were converted to compliment the conversion of the NQZA type to RDTF. Now surplus, Pacific National has removed the sleeper frames from a number of NDHX and returned them to steel and container traffic. Unfortunately in some cases the wagons have retained the NDHX code despite no longer being in sleeper traffic.
lowtensionearth
But I assume the wagon number remained the same....
I guess it will be sorted out if photos of the damaged wagon are published.
Not a good look, wagons breaking in half.....

Peter
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Forgive me but how did the wagon get so far in the network being out of gauge?
NSWGR8022

Where does it say it was out of gauge?
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Forgive me but how did the wagon get so far in the network being out of gauge?

Where does it say it was out of gauge?
bingley hall

Forgive me I was referring to https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/out-of-gauge-freight-train-wagon-damages-platforms a different report I had read at the same time.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Approximately ten years ago now Pacific National converted a number of NQHX wagons to NDHX concrete sleeper wagons in conjunction with ARTC resleepering programs. Pacific National retained ownership of the wagons which were converted to compliment the conversion of the NQZA type to RDTF. Now surplus, Pacific National has removed the sleeper frames from a number of NDHX and returned them to steel and container traffic. Unfortunately in some cases the wagons have retained the NDHX code despite no longer being in sleeper traffic.
lowtensionearth
If the wagon was an NQHX it would have started life as an ICX. Assuming this the wagon number is missing a number as M636C has suggested. Back in the days NQHXs were supposed to be captive to Broken Hill/Cobar ore traffic and Heaven help anyone who let one into interstate container traffic. Nevertheless the class, number and check letter do not match.
What did the consist sheet show?

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