Grain Harvest 2020-21

 
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
I think its fair to say if the Dookie branch hasn't been reactivated for this year's harvest, it never will be.

130,000tonne of grain coming out of there and all going via road. What a bloody shame.
I still am of the view the the best hope of getting that line re-activated will be of the grain company puts in the lions share of the coin to make it happen, or SG makes its way up to Toc at some point. After the debacle of the north west, SG going up there isent going to happen as early as it might have had the project gone well. Thinking another 10 years. Doubt its worth a few million to the grain company's to do that. They probably would stump up some cash to contribute to the gauge conversion. They will more likaly road direct to port, or over to the oaklands line.
Galron
GrainCorp did have half ago at that back in 2015 with their program of shutting small sites and creating larger receival as well their big rail out loading sites.

If I remember correctly they did have money on the table but the Gov't didn't come to the party, they also had their hand back in the pocket to spiff up the line to Murrayville, where they created one of their larger out loading sites, so I don't think their too tight to pay for some reasonable infrastructure.

BigShunter.

actually here's one for emmastreet, where does most of this grain end going ? would it be consumed locally by diaries or feedlots. in that general area some of the cereal crops go into biscuits or something also Uncle Tobies source grain from the region.

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  emmastreet Chief Train Controller

Location: Goulburn Valley
Big Shunter. Some years back I met up with a grain grower from out Dookie way who told me it wasn't a big deal that the line was closed as most of the grain grown in the district was not of export quality.  Whether that was true then or is still the case I have no idea. Having said that there have been several reports over the years since that Graincorp have been keen to get trains back again.
I'm sure some of the crop is trucked to Port of Melbourne but I don't see a great convoy of grain trucks heading to Melb on either the GV or Hume Hwys.
Graincorp have a canola oil processing plant at Numurkah.
Do we export canola grain or oil? Is it used in feedlots?
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Graincorp have a canola oil processing plant at Numurkah.
Do we export canola grain or oil? Is it used in feedlots?
emmastreet
Here's just what you need emmastreet, this factory probably flies under the radar a bit, first spotted it a number of years back, while we were shacked up in the caravan park, nice town too.

https://www.facebook.com/GrainCorpLimited/videos/816710018889765/

Sounds like a fantastic year for them as well.

BigShunter.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
I am feeling for the cockies who hadn't harvested their crop yet, after the last two days of wild weather in the Western half of the State.

Victoria Hit by Severe Thunderstorms, Producing Heavy Hail and Flash Flooding
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-02/victoria-south-west-severe-thunderstorms-hail-flooding/13027918
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Southwest Vic will probably have some issues with grain quality. Westmere got 36mm yesterday and the Graincorp site there was just starting to get decent grain volumes.  Northern Vic harvest was more or less completed before Christmas.
  Z VAN Junior Train Controller

Graincorp have a canola oil processing plant at Numurkah.
Do we export canola grain or oil? Is it used in feedlots?
Here's just what you need emmastreet, this factory probably flies under the radar a bit, first spotted it a number of years back, while we were shacked up in the caravan park, nice town too.

https://www.facebook.com/GrainCorpLimited/videos/816710018889765/

Sounds like a fantastic year for them as well.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Interesting and good for Numurkah as it is a service town. Industry was always coming to the town but has never arrived.
To me the site looks like the former Holdensen and Neilson Butter factory as I have not lived in
the area since 1963 all memories are suspect.
Numurkah Railway yards wise they're always large to me but if you have a look at the yard layout they were basically only four roads. The Silo road was a straight siding branching off at an angle, not at all that would be suitable today. I digress, time to submit
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Nhill at just over 200 000 tonnes, Lillimur expecting about 120 000. Apparently Carpolac and Natimuk full, so Nhill might get some from down south which hadn't happened so far this year.

12 trucks twice a day from lillimur to Portland.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Was through Westmere, south of Ararat, today. quite a bit of grain in bunkers, with a lot still yet to be harvested in the area, which seems a bit late, and the widespread rain today wont help. No staff apparent today either. Only reason i can think the grain is not harvested is trouble getting contractors to do it, but others closer to the action may have more accurate information.

Loan PN container flat, VQCY 608 D for those into such things, parked in the unload siding as well. no idea how long its been there, but there did seem to be evidence of one wheel set having been dragged, so may be waiting for someone to be bothered to go and do a bogie swap on it.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Latest on the harvest: https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7082288/fast-whopper-grain-harvest-defies-weather-and-labour-shortages/?cs=4786

Record receivals at Elmore and Dookie.  It's good that Elmore has rail access (albeit only short rakes), and bad that Dookie doesn't at all.

Also, Boort sub-terminal has started loading PN trains which is great.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

Record receivals at Elmore and Dookie.  It's good that Elmore has rail access (albeit only short rakes), and bad that Dookie doesn't at all.
Carnot

Being a grain handler in Vicrtoria must be sooo frustrating with graincorp going to the government many times over the Dookie line not being in service.  V/Line really do have a lot to answer.
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
Latest on the harvest: https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7082288/fast-whopper-grain-harvest-defies-weather-and-labour-shortages/?cs=4786

Record receivals at Elmore and Dookie.  It's good that Elmore has rail access (albeit only short rakes), and bad that Dookie doesn't at all.

Also, Boort sub-terminal has started loading PN trains which is great.
Carnot
Furthermore, the first train in a long time loaded at Charlton AWB yesterday. Thanks to Graeme White for the video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgkJtPP81_0&t=3s
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
The SSR BG rake featured a whopper of a combo overnight between Tottenham Yard and Bendigo with no less than three P's, two T's, a B, a G and an S.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCp2GlhYyPw&feature=youtu.be
  Carnot Minister for Railways

PN Grainy from Charlton with XR552-XR550 failed at Creswick this morning.  Two XR's dispatched from Geelong on International rescue.  That's the second failure in 5 days around Ballarat....
  GheringhapLoop GEEWONG

Location: Gheringhap Vic 3331
PN Grainy from Charlton with XR552-XR550 failed at Creswick this morning.  Two XR's dispatched from Geelong on International rescue.  That's the second failure in 5 days around Ballarat....
Carnot

Photos and report https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2204252.htm#2204252
  GheringhapLoop GEEWONG

Location: Gheringhap Vic 3331
PN Grainy from Charlton with XR552-XR550 failed at Creswick this morning.  Two XR's dispatched from Geelong on International rescue.  That's the second failure in 5 days around Ballarat....
Carnot

Photos and report https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2204252.htm#2204252
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
SSR are running to Woorinen again tonight for a load for Appleton Dock. They loaded there and at Piangil on Thursday with a split load for Kensington and Appleton.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Friday was GrainFlow at Dimmy's last day for receivals for the year, so over red rover and on with the job of transporting the harvest. Probably about 2 weeks longer than normal due to weather and a big harvest all round.
The last few weeks they have worked all sorts of hours depending on the weather conditions and demand by growers, so obviously still grain that was coming straight from the header. Hopefully some grain receival figures for the Wimmera and beyond are available soon.

BigShunter.
  Carnot Minister for Railways
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
A very revealing report in Stock and Land this morning:

https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7113448/road-winning-out-over-rail-for-record-grain-harvest/?cs=4598
Carnot
I wonder if Mr Riordan would mind paying some dollars per TKM to help fund those road upgrades?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A very revealing report in Stock and Land this morning:

https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7113448/road-winning-out-over-rail-for-record-grain-harvest/?cs=4598
I wonder if Mr Riordan would mind paying some dollars per TKM to help fund those road upgrades?
james.au

And his trucking movements are being subsidised and he is loving it.

This article is a good one and highlights just what a mess the rail network is under the current administration.
  steamfreak Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wodonga, VIC
A very revealing report in Stock and Land this morning:

https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7113448/road-winning-out-over-rail-for-record-grain-harvest/?cs=4598
I wonder if Mr Riordan would mind paying some dollars per TKM to help fund those road upgrades?

And his trucking movements are being subsidised and he is loving it.

This article is a good one and highlights just what a mess the rail network is under the current administration.
bevans

I took this pic yesterday (4 Feb 2021) of SSR's 4CM5 heading into Victoria.  As someone pointed out, it illustrates the state of rail here somewhat.  A shiny new freeway on one side, and a train hauled by a gaggle of 60 year old locomotives over a 138 year old speed-restricted bridge on the other...  Hopefully the Inland Rail project will improve things on this corridor somewhat.

Cheers,
Trevor.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Agree with BG in another thread, great to be back, it's a nice change from the black & white ABC Test pattern, that I haven't seen for a very longtime.

Now, a great piece of filming as well as footage here, starting in Whyceproof to load out of Nullawil. Check the assortment of locomotive power.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3BlrHM4Y9k

A very big thankyou to AUSSIETRAINDRIVER 2021 for the work put in, Excellent.

BigShunter.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
PN's triple XR combo is still together, seen running back from Boort yesterday afternoon



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeYL1lausXY&feature=youtu.be
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
I have watched a few videos on the Sea Lake branch of late with piles of new timber sleepers on the sides of the track. The point being as the article said, why is the maintenance being completed in peak harvest/ export season!? Just completely undermines the whole point of what's meant to be an efficient rail system, as we all know it is not. There has also only been a handful of SG grain trains on the Yelta line so far this harvest/ season. The BG has been quite busy with 3 PN rakes currently active.

Will anything positive ever come out of this situation?
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

I have watched a few videos on the Sea Lake branch of late with piles of new timber sleepers on the sides of the track. The point being as the article said, why is the maintenance being completed in peak harvest/ export season!? Just completely undermines the whole point of what's meant to be an efficient rail system, as we all know it is not. There has also only been a handful of SG grain trains on the Yelta line so far this harvest/ season. The BG has been quite busy with 3 PN rakes currently active.

Will anything positive ever come out of this situation?
cbinyon
V/Line are their own worst enemy. Still using wooden sleepers with a 15 year life just pepetuates an on-going high maintenance freight track.  Should be using gauge convertible steel sleepers that have a 50 year life and locks in a lower on going track maintenance cost.  The NSW regional freight network uses steel sleepers with improved ballast and drainage and is much lower cost to maintain proven, than VLP outdated practices.  

Viz: Echuca - Toolamba upgraded with timber sleepers on at least two occasions and now unserviceable again, facing bumper rice harvest. As Basil Fawlty would say "Hopeless !!! - just hopeless !!!"

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