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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

No new wars under Trump will remain one of his enduring 'good things' from his time as President.
What are his other "good things"?
And of note, if it wasnt for Iran not taking the bait this wouldnt have happened.

He of course, drone striked twice as much as the "big bad black president under the bed" did
speedemon08
Plus there was the very dangerous dismantling of the Open Skies Treaty and the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

It is possible to construct definitions of 'war' and 'start' that allow it to be said that Trump did not start a war, but it should be pointed out that the same can be said of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

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  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
No new wars under Trump will remain one of his enduring 'good things' from his time as President.
What are his other "good things"?
And of note, if it wasnt for Iran not taking the bait this wouldnt have happened.

He of course, drone striked twice as much as the "big bad black president under the bed" did
speedemon08
He did openly admit to ordering a hit on some of Iran's top military brass, I'd say fair enough if they are pissed off at that. As for Him Starting a War, Donald did order Missiles to be fired into Syria (At Assad and co) and did illegally deploy troops there to combat isis. Not to mention predictably selling out the YPG/PKK to the turks by allowing them to walk into Syria. Did he Start any wars? It seems so, just without US involvement.

Anyway why are we still talking about that looser? His court Cases all failed, the 'Made in China' March on Rome failed.

As for Biden and Yemen, this is a good thing (Below), even though we will have to wait to see the results of it all. (Even though they are still peddling the Russia did it nonsense).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/us-end-support-saudi-led-operations-yemen-humanitarian-crisis
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
No new wars under Trump will remain one of his enduring 'good things' from his time as President.
What are his other "good things"?
Valvegear
No new wars. As someone else pointed out extra judicial killings via drones increased but every US President has been increasing that. Also detente with North Korea, hardening trade rules with China - caught them completely off guard.

I know he had his faults but I'm betting Biden starts new wars, bombs with more drones, supports the Saudis unequivocally and SOFTENS on China - so he really won't be much better/worse.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Last nights ABC Four Corners was a very interesting insight into Joe Biden. His tragic life, his less than ethical faux pas when he became obsessed with UK Prime Minister Neil Kinnock's victory speech and emulated him without crediting him or JFK and how he sabotaged his first run for the White House among many other things.

Of course, his daily 220 mile round trip, 90 minutes each way Amtrak commute from Wilmington to Washington DC gets a mention.

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2103H002S00

Mike.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Last nights ABC Four Corners was a very interesting insight into Joe Biden. His tragic life, his less than ethical faux pas when he became obsessed with UK Prime Minister Neil Kinnock's victory speech and emulated him without crediting him or JFK and how he sabotaged his first run for the White House among many other things.

Of course, his daily 220 mile round trip, 90 minutes each way Amtrak commute from Wilmington to Washington DC gets a mention.

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2103H002S00

Mike.
The Vinelander
Neil Kinnock was never Prime Minister of the UK.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

I am generally happy that Biden is in. I am really disappointed with one of his picks. Neera Tanden. A corporate hawk who was loved by Hillary Clinton, who does not believe in Medicare for All and pushed for Social Security cuts.

The only way the working class will benefit is to have progressive people like Alexandra Orcasio-Cortez, like Jamaal Bowman, like Cori Bush. (I love Cori Bush), not freaking Neera Tanden. God, who's next Kyrsten Sinema?


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I am generally happy that Biden is in. I am really disappointed with one of his picks. Neera Tanden. A corporate hawk who was loved by Hillary Clinton, who does not believe in Medicare for All and pushed for Social Security cuts.

The only way the working class will benefit is to have progressive people like Alexandra Orcasio-Cortez, like Jamaal Bowman, like Cori Bush. (I love Cori Bush), not freaking Neera Tanden. God, who's next Kyrsten Sinema?


Michael
mejhammers1
No, those people are all crazy.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Don is correct, those people are nutters of the highest order. Biden is proving reasonable, no need to spoil his record just to placate The Rabid Dribbling Left.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Don is correct, those people are nutters of the highest order. Biden is proving reasonable, no need to spoil his record just to placate The Rabid Dribbling Left.
billybaxter
I think you meant to say 'invisible' which was the whole point. Its everyone else doing the string pulling.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I think you meant to say 'invisible' which was the whole point. Its everyone else doing the string pulling.
"don_dunstan"
What? You expect the President to do everything? He had designated people to do certain jobs, and is letting them do them. It's called good management.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I think you meant to say 'invisible' which was the whole point. Its everyone else doing the string pulling.
What? You expect the President to do everything? He had designated people to do certain jobs, and is letting them do them. It's called good management.
Valvegear
That's called DELEGATION. What's actually happening is that Biden makes no decisions whatsoever and the people who put him there are doing all the deciding for him.

Instead Joe and his wife get to decide the really important stuff... how to decorate the White House lawns on Valentine's Day...



https://youtu.be/vdE2woU789I

Is it just me or does he look more feeble than ever? LOL even his dog looks like it needs a zimmer frame...
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
That's called DELEGATION.
"don_dunstan"
Exactly, and that is good management. Select good staff and let them do their jobs. The idea that one person should do the lot is the ultimate in absurdity.

Is it just me or does he look more feeble than ever?
"don_dunstan"
It's just you.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
That's called DELEGATION.
Exactly, and that is good management. Select good staff and let them do their jobs. The idea that one person should do the lot is the ultimate in absurdity.
Valvegear
It's called the EXECUTIVE for a very good reason, Valvegear. Truman had 'The buck stops here' famously on his desk.

Magoo has already issued something like 40+ executive orders - he's making those orders fast than most former Presidents. He should be responsible for all these orders later on if he's called to account (or unless he uses the Reagan defense).
Is it just me or does he look more feeble than ever?
It's just you.
Valvegear
Here's a better zinger for you: Happy lock-down - it's going to be a fortnight too, not the five days they were telling you last week (sucked in, Victoria!). How much are you all loving Dan the Man right now!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
It's called the EXECUTIVE for a very good reason, Valvegear. Truman had 'The buck stops here' famously on his desk.
"don_dunstan"
It still applies, the same as it does to any CEO. They will issue some orders. They will not do it all. I don't give a fish tit whether it's called delegation, executive, or good management, that's how it works.

Magoo has already issued something like 40+ executive orders - he's making those orders fast than most former Presidents.
"don_dunstan"
So?

He should be responsible for all these orders later on if he's called to account
"don_dunstan"
Of course.

Here's a better zinger for you: Happy lock-down - it's going to be a fortnight too, not the five days they were telling you last week (sucked in, Victoria!). How much are you all loving Dan the Man right now!
"don_dunstan"
I fail to understand how even your febrile and overactive imagination links that to Biden.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
It's called the EXECUTIVE for a very good reason, Valvegear. Truman had 'The buck stops here' famously on his desk.
It still applies, the same as it does to any CEO. They will issue some orders. They will not do it all. I don't give a fish tit whether it's called delegation, executive, or good management, that's how it works.
Valvegear
Well of course you're going to say a 78 year old is as good as anyone else is at being a CEO and holding very high responsible office. But I don't think he is. I reckon with the pace of executive orders he's issuing combined with his diminishing mental capacity that the Reagan defense will be used later on... which isn't good for anyone is it.

Let's just beg to differ and see how this plays out.
I fail to understand how even your febrile and overactive imagination links that to Biden.
Valvegear
C'mon it's funny. I went to Bunnings today and you stared at walls and looked out windows. Isn't Dan's frothing at the mouth crazy wonderful for locking you all in your homes indefinitely for a disease that isn't even that deadly.

The speed of light Dan was saying that disease travels at he said the other day... LOL. He's crazy and he's entirely your burden and not mine.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Well of course you're going to say a 78 year old is as good as anyone else is at being a CEO and holding very high responsible office.
don_dunstan
Why not? I was working at a pretty fair pace and enjoying it when I was 78.

I reckon with the pace of executive orders he's issuing combined with his diminishing mental capacity that the Reagan defense will be used later on... which isn't good for anyone is it.
don_dunstan
Who examined his mental capacity and gave you access to the findings?

C'mon it's funny. I went to Bunnings today and you stared at walls and looked out windows. Isn't Dan's frothing at the mouth crazy wonderful for locking you all in your homes indefinitely for a disease that isn't even that deadly.

The speed of light Dan was saying that disease travels at he said the other day... LOL. He's crazy and he's entirely your burden and not mine.
don_dunstan
I'm still wondering at the relevance to Biden.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
I think you meant to say 'invisible' which was the whole point. Its everyone else doing the string pulling.
What? You expect the President to do everything? He had designated people to do certain jobs, and is letting them do them. It's called good management.
That's called DELEGATION. What's actually happening is that Biden makes no decisions whatsoever and the people who put him there are doing all the deciding for him.

Instead Joe and his wife get to decide the really important stuff... how to decorate the White House lawns on Valentine's Day...



https://youtu.be/vdE2woU789I

Is it just me or does he look more feeble than ever? LOL even his dog looks like it needs a zimmer frame...
don_dunstan
All good leaders have a team of advisors who either work on issues (delegation as indicated by Valvegear) and provide a recommendation or simply provide their opinions, the leader listens, then makes a judgement call based on the data available.  This way the final decision is usually more robust and correct pathway forewad.

Trump rarely listened and made policy on the fly, he couldn't stand to be corrected and just stuck with what didn't work.

Side note, a friend is studying Criminology as mature age student. I asked what do you do with this, she indicated that the most common work is submitting sentencing recommendation for Judges. Apparently Judges have people who research the data of the case, evidence presented, look for precedent, mitigating factors, degree of malice by the accused/convicted etc etc and write a report recommending a particular sentence and reasons why.  I asked why the Judge doesn't do this, she said they don't have the time due to court hours and they are not always/rarely up to date with the law etc. Back to the topic and my point, if a Judge in Australia delegates the basic decision making out on sentencing, then what do you think the US President is doing?????
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
It's called the EXECUTIVE for a very good reason, Valvegear. Truman had 'The buck stops here' famously on his desk.
It still applies, the same as it does to any CEO. They will issue some orders. They will not do it all. I don't give a fish tit whether it's called delegation, executive, or good management, that's how it works.
Well of course you're going to say a 78 year old is as good as anyone else is at being a CEO and holding very high responsible office. But I don't think he is. I reckon with the pace of executive orders he's issuing combined with his diminishing mental capacity that the Reagan defense will be used later on... which isn't good for anyone is it.

Let's just beg to differ and see how this plays out.
I fail to understand how even your febrile and overactive imagination links that to Biden.
C'mon it's funny. I went to Bunnings today and you stared at walls and looked out windows. Isn't Dan's frothing at the mouth crazy wonderful for locking you all in your homes indefinitely for a disease that isn't even that deadly.

The speed of light Dan was saying that disease travels at he said the other day... LOL. He's crazy and he's entirely your burden and not mine.
don_dunstan

Tend to agree with Valvegear on Biden's medical status. Unless you know, you comment is meaningless. Remember Trump harped on for years about Obama's birth certificate. No one else gived a F, but he tried to make a case about it and failed.

Yes, Dan the Man's statement of late have lacked smarts, but comments from you. "disease that isn't even that deadly", is equally as stupid.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
As for Joe's 40 Exc orders, well its not hard to do.

If you read through the list most is simply undoing what Trump did, action on CV-19 and enforcing more made in "America in govt contracts".

Mostly just undoing Trumps mess, so not hard to do. All these would have been drafted weeks/months ago.

Regards
Shane
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
All good leaders have a team of advisors who either work on issues (delegation as indicated by Valvegear) and provide a recommendation or simply provide their opinions, the leader listens, then makes a judgement call based on the data available.  This way the final decision is usually more robust and correct pathway forewad.

Trump rarely listened and made policy on the fly, he couldn't stand to be corrected and just stuck with what didn't work.

Side note, a friend is studying Criminology as mature age student. I asked what do you do with this, she indicated that the most common work is submitting sentencing recommendation for Judges. Apparently Judges have people who research the data of the case, evidence presented, look for precedent, mitigating factors, degree of malice by the accused/convicted etc etc and write a report recommending a particular sentence and reasons why.  I asked why the Judge doesn't do this, she said they don't have the time due to court hours and they are not always/rarely up to date with the law etc. Back to the topic and my point, if a Judge in Australia delegates the basic decision making out on sentencing, then what do you think the US President is doing?????
RTT_Rules
Don't believe me that Biden is demented? The fullness of time will prove me correct. That and the fact that there's a lot of Demmy-crats who are just itching to get Kamala Harris into the top job - including Kamala herself.

"Criminology" - LOL, another course that the universities sell to people that has sweet FA actual outcomes. I once knew someone in Melbourne with a MA in Criminology and she was working at a homeless shelter because it was the only thing she could get.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
As for Joe's 40 Exc orders, well its not hard to do.

If you read through the list most is simply undoing what Trump did, action on CV-19 and enforcing more made in "America in govt contracts".

Mostly just undoing Trumps mess, so not hard to do. All these would have been drafted weeks/months ago.

Regards
Shane
RTT_Rules
What mess did Trump leave that needed undoing?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Tend to agree with Valvegear on Biden's medical status. Unless you know, you comment is meaningless. Remember Trump harped on for years about Obama's birth certificate. No one else gived a F, but he tried to make a case about it and failed.

Yes, Dan the Man's statement of late have lacked smarts, but comments from you. "disease that isn't even that deadly", is equally as stupid.
RTT_Rules
It isn't as deadly as influenza in Australia - more people die in a typical flu season.

We've had three COVID19 fatalities in Australia of people under sixty. Three.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
If you read through the list most is simply undoing what Trump did, action on CV-19 and enforcing more made in "America in govt contracts".
RTT_Rules
There's much more than that. He cancelled the construction of the Keystone pipeline from Canada to the United States putting about 4,000 workers on the unemployment heap. He's broken a promise not to ban fracking. He's issued an order saying that men with full male genitalia who identify as women must now be allowed to play women's sports. He's issued an executive order saying that executive-level employees must now take a pledge of 'ethics' (critically important, obviously).

Many of the executive orders pertain to illegal migrants - stopping construction of the border wall, stopping automatic deportation, creating a 'taskforce' to reunite families. If you're thinking of entering the United States illegally for work then this is pretty much a green light.

Out of interest he's re-establishing tariffs on aluminum from the U.A.E. after Trump dropped them.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
The contributions made from the representative from SA show obvious disappointment that President Biden isn't on the golf course doing SFA like the former disgraced occupant of that Office. Sorry, not sorry the representative is disappointed and that the adults are now in charge.

M.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Five minutes ago RTT_Rules was complaining that Magoo had to issue so many executive orders to 'undo' the horrible things that Trump had done (that he can't actually name)... now along comes Mike to say that Trump did nothing.

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