Welcome to Trump town

 
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
At least Biden's advisers are smarter than Trump's.

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I wasn't impressed with that either but the fact is that he was the first President since Carter to not start a new foreign war.
"don_dunstan"
You keep on repeating this like a Norwegian Blue Parrot. Obviously it must be the only good thing he did.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
At least Biden's advisers are smarter than Trump's.
"Donald"
Trump's didn't get much of a go. Anyone who gave advice he didn't like got fired.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I wasn't impressed with that either but the fact is that he was the first President since Carter to not start a new foreign war.
You keep on repeating this like a Norwegian Blue Parrot. Obviously it must be the only good thing he did.
Valvegear
Whereas Biden has abolished Mister Potato Head and racist Doctor Seuss books - is the world wonderfully Seuss insane now or not!
Trump's didn't get much of a go. Anyone who gave advice he didn't like got fired.
Hissy fit
LOL and Mister Magoo's advisors are obviously much better at their jobs by cutting him off before he can answer unscripted questions.

They'll have a lot of longetiviity in their jobs if they can keep him away from people like those old geriatric Soviet leaders used to. Brezhnev Biden.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
So the representative from SA thinks my brain has been fried by the broadsheet media because HE thinks Henry Kissinger from the same party as Trump thinks Trump did a standout job on foreign policy.
It's a TABLOID now-days, not a 'broad-sheet'. So talking up your own opinions while being blissfully ignorant - again - but what else is new.

And I didn't say he did a stand-out job on foreign policy - I said Henry Kissinger praised his largely successful foreign policy on the Middle East.

As usual, you can't get key facts right. Madeline Albright - how many wars did she start? How many did Kissinger start?

The rest of what you've said is just plain wrong so I'm not even going to bother.
don_dunstan

You can't 'bother' if you can't find the facts to support your loony right, FoxNews inspired view of life. Splitting hairs doesn't get you anywhere either. Trump may not have started any wars...but he didn't end any either.

If you wish to seek clarification of your mistaken belief, have a read of this link without a pay wall.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/03/donald-trump-jr-distorts-fathers-war-record-president-fact-check/4371243001/

Having unlikely read a Broadsheet you wouldn't know one if you tripped over it, nor do you comprehend the difference between broadsheet or tabloid...again, most likely due to the influence of your right wing inspired news 'sources'.

It's interesting that you are virtually the sole Trump supporter in a sea of progressives...it may also be worthwhile for the other posters in these pages to learn why you 'bother' posting at all.

Mike.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
So the representative from SA thinks my brain has been fried by the broadsheet media because HE thinks Henry Kissinger from the same party as Trump thinks Trump did a standout job on foreign policy.
It's a TABLOID now-days, not a 'broad-sheet'. So talking up your own opinions while being blissfully ignorant - again - but what else is new.

And I didn't say he did a stand-out job on foreign policy - I said Henry Kissinger praised his largely successful foreign policy on the Middle East.

As usual, you can't get key facts right. Madeline Albright - how many wars did she start? How many did Kissinger start?

The rest of what you've said is just plain wrong so I'm not even going to bother.

You can't 'bother' if you can't find the facts to support your loony right, FoxNews inspired view of life. Splitting hairs doesn't get you anywhere either. Trump may not have started any wars...but he didn't end any either.

If you wish to seek clarification of your mistaken belief, have a read of this link without a pay wall.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/03/donald-trump-jr-distorts-fathers-war-record-president-fact-check/4371243001/

Having unlikely read a Broadsheet you wouldn't know one if you tripped over it, nor do you comprehend the difference between broadsheet or tabloid...again, most likely due to the influence of your right wing inspired news 'sources'.

It's interesting that you are virtually the sole Trump supporter in a sea of progressives...it may also be worthwhile for the other posters in these pages to learn why you 'bother' posting at all.

Mike.
The Vinelander
No, I used to be a very regular broadsheet reader thanks a lot - but all your presumptions about me assume that I can't think for myself about what was going on.

Right back at you with accusions of ignorance. Can you people at least not acknowledge months after the end of the Trump Presidency that there was at least some good stuff about it? Trump shook things right up, he proved that a rank outsider could overtake the established natural elites like Hillie and win the Presidency AND have some wins internationally for the United States?

I'm not saying anything about his domestic policy but it was high time they -
  • Had a President who was reclutant to start new wars but nevertheless kept pariah states like Iran in their place with that targeted assassination in Bagdad.
  • Caught China completely flat footed with tariffs for unfair trade practices... couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of WTO rule flouters.
There were more good things about Trump.

Let's all just agree to move on to chatting about Mister Magoo - I for one want to put Trump to bed for later discussion.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

Right back at you with accusions of ignorance. Can you people at least not acknowledge months after the end of the Trump Presidency that there was at least some good stuff about it? Trump shook things right up, he proved that a rank outsider could overtake the established natural elites
don_dunstan

And failed utterly.
Interestingly the attached story ignores the thousands of verified bare faced lies.

Already ranked among the worst presidents ever, top historians and political scientists told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that Trump's efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election, on top of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, have cemented his place as America's worst president.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/is-donald-trump-the-worst-us-president-ever-historians-say-so-20210115-p56u9w.html

M.
  Carnot Minister for Railways


Right back at you with accusions of ignorance. Can you people at least not acknowledge months after the end of the Trump Presidency that there was at least some good stuff about it? Trump shook things right up, he proved that a rank outsider could overtake the established natural elites
And failed utterly.
Interestingly the attached story ignores the thousands of verified bare faced lies.

Already ranked among the worst presidents ever, top historians and political scientists told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that Trump's efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election, on top of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, have cemented his place as America's worst president.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/is-donald-trump-the-worst-us-president-ever-historians-say-so-20210115-p56u9w.html

M.
The Vinelander
Trump had the upper hand 12 months ago tbh, but completely blew it last year.  Without Covid-19, I reckon Trump would've easily won.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@don-Dunstan Yeah Trump really stuck it to those elites didnt he? Like giving Billions of dollarz to Corporations and the wealthy.

Your ranting and raving about elites is as non sensical as in the UK Jacob Rees-Mogg a man who went to Eton had nannies and went to Oxford calling Louise Rayner a Single mum who rose up the ranks of the Labour Party.

As for foreign policy Trump had some minor wins in the Middle East. He got the UAE and Israel on a peace accord. He achieved basically nothing as regards to North Korea and China is still flexing their incredible financial might.

So no no brownie points for Trump the crooked loser. Hey AOC raised $5 million for the people of Texas whilst Cruz effed of to Cancun. AOC helped the poor but I dont see you praising her. Praising Democratic women of colour aint your thing.

So sorry, screw Trump.


Michael
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Trump had the upper hand 12 months ago tbh, but completely blew it last year.  Without Covid-19, I reckon Trump would've easily won.
"Carnot"
We'll never know, will we?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud

Right back at you with accusions of ignorance. Can you people at least not acknowledge months after the end of the Trump Presidency that there was at least some good stuff about it? Trump shook things right up, he proved that a rank outsider could overtake the established natural elites
And failed utterly.
Interestingly the attached story ignores the thousands of verified bare faced lies.

Already ranked among the worst presidents ever, top historians and political scientists told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that Trump's efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election, on top of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, have cemented his place as America's worst president.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/is-donald-trump-the-worst-us-president-ever-historians-say-so-20210115-p56u9w.html

M.
The Vinelander

Failed utterly according to who?

Why, none other than another TABLOID Channel Nine newspaper screaming "Orange Man Official Worstest President of All Time According to Us."

They certainly know their readership them Fairfax Nine people, don't they.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Failed utterly according to who?

Why, none other than another TABLOID Channel Nine newspaper screaming "Orange Man Official Worstest President of All Time According to Us."
don_dunstan
If you took the trouble to read the report instead of foaming at the mouth about your dear Donnie, you would see that the study, done by 55 historians was commissioned and run by a Harvard University professor, and covers all the former US Presidents. All that Nine has done is report those FACTS.
I'm sorry that they don't suit your ideology.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not

Right back at you with accusions of ignorance. Can you people at least not acknowledge months after the end of the Trump Presidency that there was at least some good stuff about it? Trump shook things right up, he proved that a rank outsider could overtake the established natural elites
And failed utterly.
Interestingly the attached story ignores the thousands of verified bare faced lies.

Already ranked among the worst presidents ever, top historians and political scientists told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that Trump's efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election, on top of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, have cemented his place as America's worst president.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/is-donald-trump-the-worst-us-president-ever-historians-say-so-20210115-p56u9w.html

M.Trump had the upper hand 12 months ago tbh, but completely blew it last year.  Without Covid-19, I reckon Trump would've easily won.
Carnot
Yep, that's what I've been saying for yonks!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Failed utterly according to who?

Why, none other than another TABLOID Channel Nine newspaper screaming "Orange Man Official Worstest President of All Time According to Us."
If you took the trouble to read the report instead of foaming at the mouth about your dear Donnie, you would see that the study, done by 55 historians was commissioned and run by a Harvard University professor, and covers all the former US Presidents. All that Nine has done is report those FACTS.
I'm sorry that they don't suit your ideology.
Valvegear
So much for saying that he's not really interested in Trump- LOL LOL, you can see he's a Trump supporter from outer space Razz
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Failed utterly according to who?

Why, none other than another TABLOID Channel Nine newspaper screaming "Orange Man Official Worstest President of All Time According to Us."
If you took the trouble to read the report instead of foaming at the mouth about your dear Donnie, you would see that the study, done by 55 historians was commissioned and run by a Harvard University professor, and covers all the former US Presidents. All that Nine has done is report those FACTS.
I'm sorry that they don't suit your ideology.
Valvegear
According to histor-maticians from the Hillary Ministry of Truth I bet.

She got Jeffrey Epstein snuffed while he was in prison - there's nothing that woman can't rig. Except the Presidency...
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@don_dunstan Wow you can make that accusation without a shread of proof. I hope you are saying that tongue in cheek.

And why do you care about Jeffrey Epstein. The guy is dead. GOOD.


Michael
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
According to histor-maticians from the Hillary Ministry of Truth I bet.
"don_dunstan"
Of course you bet, simply because the truth doesn't suit your pre-determined agenda, which is if it's anti-Trump, it must be Hilary's doing. Specious remarks like yours do nothing to enhance your credibility, but they also do a great deal to demonstrate your unreasoning prejudice.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
@don_dunstan Wow you can make that accusation without a shread of proof. I hope you are saying that tongue in cheek.

And why do you care about Jeffrey Epstein. The guy is dead. GOOD.


Michael
mejhammers1
Yet again proving what a nice guy you are, Michael - celebrating the death of someone.
Of course you bet, simply because the truth doesn't suit your pre-determined agenda, which is if it's anti-Trump, it must be Hilary's doing. Specious remarks like yours do nothing to enhance your credibility, but they also do a great deal to demonstrate your unreasoning prejudice.
Valvegear
You could be talking about yourself there - you have your own absurd and logic-free agenda that you're promoting but the irony is that you can't see it for what it is.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@don_dunstan like you shed tears for when Bob Hawke died.  Just because he was a leader of the ALP. A mortal sin in your book.

Yep one less paedo in the world. Glad that disgusting individual is dead. Karma will beset any others who have proven to interfere with minors.

So I ask you again, why the concern about a disgusting paedo like Jeffery Epstein?


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
@don_dunstan like you shed tears for when Bob Hawke died.  Just because he was a leader of the ALP. A mortal sin in your book.

Yep one less paedo in the world. Glad that disgusting individual is dead. Karma will beset any others who have proven to interfere with minors.

So I ask you again, why the concern about a disgusting paedo like Jeffery Epstein?


Michael
mejhammers1
I had champagne actually, the real stuff. It's been a while now so I don't feel as though I need to respectful in any way now toward that philandering narcissistic working class traitor.

You're misreading what I'm trying to say - Epstein should have lived because he had dirt on heaps of people and it should have been dished in court. I was profoundly saddened when I heard he had 'suicided' while in custody because its no justice for the trafficked victims, a lot of his 'friends' will get away with it.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@don_dunstan And there you are lecturing me celebrating the death of a paedo. With you drinking champagne to Hawke's death because politically he is on the other side and he committed adultery. If that is your idea of moral equivilance then it is a pretty pi$$ poor one.

Like you give a tinkers cuss about the working class. You support the Tories in the UK, Repuligits in the US and support the right wing faction of the Liberal Party none of whom are friends of the Working class.

You mean you did not do well out of the Hawke Government or was it that the Hawke Government has introduced an immigration policy you did not like.

As regards to Epstein. How would you know if he would spill the beans on others? The rich and powerful tend not to rat on the rich and powerful. He could have committed suicide rather than rat on his friends. That is of course pure speculation as is your conclusion.

The git is dead. G O O D!!!


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
@don_dunstan And there you are lecturing me celebrating the death of a paedo. With you drinking champagne to Hawke's death because politically he is on the other side and he committed adultery. If that is your idea of moral equivilance then it is a pretty pi$$ poor one.
mejhammers1
Okay in no way are the two equivalent, that's your analogy not mine. And I explained quite clearly why I thought Epstien's death while on 'suicide watch' in prison was very bad for his victims but you seem to have completely ignored my reason which is pretty typical.

Anyhow... have a Winfield* Yes, even a beloved Aussie icon used to flog cigarettes -



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OngDbS0QOaw
Like you give a tinkers cuss about the working class. You support the Tories in the UK, Repuligits in the US and support the right wing faction of the Liberal Party none of whom are friends of the Working class.
mejhammers1
I might have better working class credientials than you for all you know. Wanna bet actual cash?
You mean you did not do well out of the Hawke Government or was it that the Hawke Government has introduced an immigration policy you did not like.
mejhammers1
It was Howard who quietly tripled the long term migration intake without telling anyone.
As regards to Epstein. How would you know if he would spill the beans on others? The rich and powerful tend not to rat on the rich and powerful. He could have committed suicide rather than rat on his friends. That is of course pure speculation as is your conclusion. The git is dead. G O O D!!! Michael
mejhammers1
No again for reasons I've already explained it would have been better if he'd stayed alive. And how the frig does someone commit suicide on 'suicide watch' I ask you....
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@don_dunstan Yes his suicide is disputed. Ghislane Maxwell who was involved in the ring and she is saying nothing. Again, what proof do you have that he would have snitched on anyone?  Nothing is certain but Maxwell judging by her actions looks like she isnt going to.

Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@don_dunstan My working class credentials. Born in Hackney, one of the most deprived areas in Western Europe to a father who was a ganger on the Underground and a mother who was a machinist.

Working class enough for you Don?

Michael
  ANR Chief Commissioner

President Kamala ....... already ??

Did Biden let the cat out of the bag??? Maybe the left are moving in on his presidency sooner than Trump predicted.

Can Nancy and Chuck stop the left?

https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/biden-calls-kamala-president-harris-during-speech/

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