Aussie politics thread (2)

 
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Sure to see a downgrading if you believe @NSWGR8022 comments about Cormann. I do agree with those comments actually Australia has done nothing to stamp out corruption.

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  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Not really Aussie politics but kinda sums up how I feel about the whole thing:
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
^ As long as you realise that what you feel is out of step.

Back to Cormann. He was front and centre resisting the establishment of any federal anti-corruption watchdog, and any OECD suspicion of it, and now he pulls the levers. Morrison Inc. can now continue unhindered.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Liberals in WA facing electoral wipeout judging by the results seen so far on the ABC website, with potential for low single digit numbers in the parliament.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@don_dunstan Fair enough. Markle has had overwhelmingly negative press since her engagement.

One good thing to come out of this is Piers Morgan losing his job. Mediocre tosser. Spends mornimg after morning bitching about Meghan and just because a collegue pushes back he storms off like the baby he is.

Apparantly he had a date with Meghan and ahe blew him off and on the same day had met Prince Harry. Like that fat pudding had a shot. If Piers thought he had a shot with Ms Markle then I say with affection he is a Crazy A$$ White Man.


Michael
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Obviously the thumping win that McGowan got over in the west, that is a clear indication that the people were extremely happy with the states Covid-19 response. the Libs have been virtually wiped off the map!
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
^ As long as you realise that what you feel is out of step.
DirtyBallast
Nup, the majority of British people (for example) feel the same way that I do - Daily Mail:

Most Britons think the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were wrong to have given their explosive interview, a poll reveals today.

A majority of the public believes they have let down the Queen – and should be stripped of their royal titles.

The survey was conducted after millions watched the bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview on ITV on Monday.

It reveals the monarchy has been damaged, with even the Queen's personal popularity taking a hit – though not as much as that of Harry and Prince Charles.

But asked about the couple's incendiary accusations of racism within the Royal Family, more people disbelieved Meghan's claims than believed her.

@don_dunstan Fair enough. Markle has had overwhelmingly negative press since her engagement.
mejhammers1
Again, no. She was extremely popular at the start and that popularity was at its very peak when they were touring Australia - the public here and in the UK loved her to bits.

She just didn't like it. Their popularity started to wane quite quickly when they flew a private jet to Davos to lecture the world on how they needed to cut their greenhouse emissions - it proved that they were just another pair of brainless elites saying "do what we say, not what we do". And as it turns out Meghan didn't like being told what to do all the time, she couldn't commericalise her position and she wanted out.

The bad press didn't start until they started acting like the spoiled rich elites that they really aspired to be.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Obviously the thumping win that McGowan got over in the west, that is a clear indication that the people were extremely happy with the states Covid-19 response. the Libs have been virtually wiped off the map!
lsrailfan
Its literally the most isolated city on earth, an idiot could have managed COVID there.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Obviously the thumping win that McGowan got over in the west, that is a clear indication that the people were extremely happy with the states Covid-19 response. the Libs have been virtually wiped off the map!
Its literally the most isolated city on earth, an idiot could have managed COVID there.
don_dunstan
An idiot did want to manage COVID, In WA and the whole country, live along side the virus and open your economy.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

^ As long as you realise that what you feel is out of step.
Nup, the majority of British people (for example) feel the same way that I do - Daily Mail:

Most Britons think the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were wrong to have given their explosive interview, a poll reveals today.

A majority of the public believes they have let down the Queen – and should be stripped of their royal titles.

The survey was conducted after millions watched the bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview on ITV on Monday.

It reveals the monarchy has been damaged, with even the Queen's personal popularity taking a hit – though not as much as that of Harry and Prince Charles.

But asked about the couple's incendiary accusations of racism within the Royal Family, more people disbelieved Meghan's claims than believed her.

@don_dunstan Fair enough. Markle has had overwhelmingly negative press since her engagement.
Again, no. She was extremely popular at the start and that popularity was at its very peak when they were touring Australia - the public here and in the UK loved her to bits.

She just didn't like it. Their popularity started to wane quite quickly when they flew a private jet to Davos to lecture the world on how they needed to cut their greenhouse emissions - it proved that they were just another pair of brainless elites saying "do what we say, not what we do". And as it turns out Meghan didn't like being told what to do all the time, she couldn't commericalise her position and she wanted out.

The bad press didn't start until they started acting like the spoiled rich elites that they really aspired to be.
don_dunstan
Their popularity started to wane quite quickly when they flew a private jet to Davos to lecture the world on how they needed to cut their greenhouse emissions

Misinformation. That was Prince Charles who flew a private jet to Davos, not Meghan and Prince Harry. And there was certainly a lot who were against her from the time she got engaged. One Piers (Snowflake) Morgan springs to mind.

She couldn't commericalise her position and she wanted out.

William and Kate have set up accounts to cash in and protect their brand as well. Funny that it does not get a mention

But asked about the couple's incendiary accusations of racism within the Royal Family, more people disbelieved Meghan's claims than believed her.

I don't believe that the Queen is racist at all. I do not believe that pretty much all of the Royal Family is racist, but as in institution, If you can tell me hand on heart that none of their advisors harbour racist feelings then that is being naïve. Remember they have not had to deal with something like this before. A Duchess who is woman of color and Prince Harry  having a black woman as a mother-in-law.

The photo of Archie being depicted as a Chimp by Danny Baker which led to him losing his job. No picture depicting Louie as a chimp.

Straight outta Compton Headlines.

The press getting her pathetic father to betray her revealing her private letters to the press. Her father is a complete tool.

Henry Bolton, a UKIP politician breaking up with his girlfriend, Jo Marney because of racist remarks she directed at Meghan Markle. She said Markle would "taint" the royal family. Markle and Prince Harry were engaged at the time.

Whatever you feel about Meghan, she has copped it big time, the vast majority of which was unwarranted.

More proof on how Kate and Meghan are treated differently



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fC7J71pxhI


Michael
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The Daily Mail's report of most Briton's disapproval is inevitable. The Queen is revered, and, as a person, deserves it simply because her conduct through all of her reign has been impeccable. Just look at the way the Brits put on the Royal-worship whenever there's a wedding, anniversary, birthday, etc.
The problem is that the Queen is not the one pulling all the strings, and the high powered courtiers (nice, old fashioned title) have far more influence than they should. With Buck House having a cast of thousands, anyone could have stirred the racist pot, and never been found (or never acknowledged to have done so). Meghan is from different stock from the usual members, and thinks differently; more power to her; it's about time.
The Brits will never admit that sacred cows make good hamburgers.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

speedemon08
That is officially the job of the Nationals now. It will be their leader Mia Davies, not the next Liberal leader who get to sit opposite the Premier in Parliament, receive additional briefings in major issues, form a Shadow Cabinet, nominate committee members and face off in debates leading up to the next election.

For those used to the long-standing Coalition in NSW/Vic or the LNP in Queensland, it’s worth a mention that the WA Nationals and WA Liberals have no such arrangement. The ability to create a coalition agreement where they can dictate the majority of the terms might be quite attractive to the Nationals though.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Their popularity started to wane quite quickly when they flew a private jet to Davos to lecture the world on how they needed to cut their greenhouse emissions

Misinformation. That was Prince Charles who flew a private jet to Davos, not Meghan and Prince Harry. And there was certainly a lot who were against her from the time she got engaged. One Piers (Snowflake) Morgan springs to mind.
mejhammers1
Harry stood up to lecture people on climate change in bare feet - it was unedifying. And the fact still remains that they took a private jet to a climate change conference, Charles is equally culpable but you expect lack of insight from him...
She couldn't commericalise her position and she wanted out. William and Kate have set up accounts to cash in and protect their brand as well. Funny that it does not get a mention
mejhammers1
You can't compare that with Harry's shameless and repulsive plug to get his wife work from Bob Eiger (Disney) while at an official engagement for the premier of the Lion King II:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQghbCduv70

They're both all about the money, that's the long and the short of it. Meghan has (since the interview) announced that she wants a career in politics... what a shock. That kleptomaniac will probably thrive in that environment.

Michael, I'm really sorry that you think Meghan is some kind of victim - she's not. She was really highly regarded at the start despite her obvious grooming celebrity (Oprah herself for example) and other early warning signs about her true character. You just like her because she's pulled the race card - that's all. Meghan has proven to us all that she's just a repulsive money-grubbing gold-digger and frankly I hope they both fade into obscurity.

But they won't - they'll probably end up billionaires just like Meghan planned it.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
She said Markle would "taint" the royal family.
mejhammers1

"Cheapen" would have been a better choice of words. Race has nothing to do with Meghan being a gold-digger, Michael - sorry but that's the truth. Just because she's black doesn't make her a nice person.

And like it or not there were people like Germaine Greer who spotted her as the social climbing B-grade actress that she really is.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
That is officially the job of the Nationals now. It will be their leader Mia Davies, not the next Liberal leader who get to sit opposite the Premier in Parliament, receive additional briefings in major issues, form a Shadow Cabinet, nominate committee members and face off in debates leading up to the next election.

For those used to the long-standing Coalition in NSW/Vic or the LNP in Queensland, it’s worth a mention that the WA Nationals and WA Liberals have no such arrangement. The ability to create a coalition agreement where they can dictate the majority of the terms might be quite attractive to the Nationals though.
justapassenger
There's a real failure of talent or diversity of opinion or something going on at a state politics level - we also suffer it here in South Australia.

Steven Marshall said in opposition that he'd stop the relentless march toward energy instability but in reality he's made it even worse with even more wind-farms. Just because we're getting a $3 billion extension cord built to NSW won't make us any less vulnerable to blackouts.

The LNP at a state level need desperately to take an alternative policy position or they're no different to voting Labor.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The Daily Mail's report of most Briton's disapproval is inevitable. The Queen is revered, and, as a person, deserves it simply because her conduct through all of her reign has been impeccable. Just look at the way the Brits put on the Royal-worship whenever there's a wedding, anniversary, birthday, etc.
The problem is that the Queen is not the one pulling all the strings, and the high powered courtiers (nice, old fashioned title) have far more influence than they should. With Buck House having a cast of thousands, anyone could have stirred the racist pot, and never been found (or never acknowledged to have done so). Meghan is from different stock from the usual members, and thinks differently; more power to her; it's about time.
The Brits will never admit that sacred cows make good hamburgers.
Valvegear
There's a direct line that connects us to the Magna Carta and the oldest functioning democratic system in the world and yet people in the twenty-first century are prepared to ditch it for what - President Keating?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

She said Markle would "taint" the royal family.

"Cheapen" would have been a better choice of words. Race has nothing to do with Meghan being a gold-digger, Michael - sorry but that's the truth. Just because she's black doesn't make her a nice person.

And like it or not there were people like Germaine Greer who spotted her as the social climbing B-grade actress that she really is.
don_dunstan
"Cheapen"

How Don. You just don't like her. And that's fine.

Just because she's black doesn't make her a nice person.

Never said that black people are exclusively nice. But of course you would state that. In your oh so pathetic attempt to paint me as hating everyone who is white. To you, however, black people always have an ulterior motive. Anyway she identifies her self as mixed-race.

Nope I do not agree Don. She is not a gold digger, because that girl has a lot of money independent of Harry. She was earning $500,000 AUD a year in Suits. She did that for 7 seasons. So you can take away that BS.

Yeah like you normally take what Germaine Greer says. Normally I agree with Greer, in this case whilst I accept Markle is no saint, I totally disagree.

Who spotted her as the social climbing B-grade actress that she really is.

That is something that Piers Morgan would say. What a snowflake, he is. And even if she were so what? She deserves more bad press than Prince Andrew? Really?

Sorry someone who shakes up the royal family will not receive criticism from me. Fergie, Diana and now Markle, I have no beef with any of them. I have the utmost respect for the Queen, but I do not understand the reverence and utmost deference that English people have for the crown in 2021.


Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

The Daily Mail's report of most Briton's disapproval is inevitable. The Queen is revered, and, as a person, deserves it simply because her conduct through all of her reign has been impeccable. Just look at the way the Brits put on the Royal-worship whenever there's a wedding, anniversary, birthday, etc.
The problem is that the Queen is not the one pulling all the strings, and the high powered courtiers (nice, old fashioned title) have far more influence than they should. With Buck House having a cast of thousands, anyone could have stirred the racist pot, and never been found (or never acknowledged to have done so). Meghan is from different stock from the usual members, and thinks differently; more power to her; it's about time.
The Brits will never admit that sacred cows make good hamburgers.
There's a direct line that connects us to the Magna Carta and the oldest functioning democratic system in the world and yet people in the twenty-first century are prepared to ditch it for what - President Keating?
don_dunstan
Just because it is the oldest, it does not mean its the best. The UK Parliament is an absolute laughing stock now and maybe it is time for a change.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Well why upset a system with a ruling system of aristocrats the other side of the world away when its worked okay for centuries -

Would you seriously want a President Keating - it'd end up with a Communist Party takeover if the President was given too much power.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Their popularity started to wane quite quickly when they flew a private jet to Davos to lecture the world on how they needed to cut their greenhouse emissions

Misinformation. That was Prince Charles who flew a private jet to Davos, not Meghan and Prince Harry. And there was certainly a lot who were against her from the time she got engaged. One Piers (Snowflake) Morgan springs to mind.
Harry stood up to lecture people on climate change in bare feet - it was unedifying. And the fact still remains that they took a private jet to a climate change conference, Charles is equally culpable but you expect lack of insight from him...
She couldn't commericalise her position and she wanted out. William and Kate have set up accounts to cash in and protect their brand as well. Funny that it does not get a mention
You can't compare that with Harry's shameless and repulsive plug to get his wife work from Bob Eiger (Disney) while at an official engagement for the premier of the Lion King II:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQghbCduv70

They're both all about the money, that's the long and the short of it. Meghan has (since the interview) announced that she wants a career in politics... what a shock. That kleptomaniac will probably thrive in that environment.

Michael, I'm really sorry that you think Meghan is some kind of victim - she's not. She was really highly regarded at the start despite her obvious grooming celebrity (Oprah herself for example) and other early warning signs about her true character. You just like her because she's pulled the race card - that's all. Meghan has proven to us all that she's just a repulsive money-grubbing gold-digger and frankly I hope they both fade into obscurity.

But they won't - they'll probably end up billionaires just like Meghan planned it.
don_dunstan
That kleptomaniac

Now she is stealing? Stealing what? And from whom? You have just had no 45 making a whole ton of money from his presidency and nothing but crickets from you. What a hypocrite.

You just like her because she's pulled the race card - that's all.

And just like you, you immediately think she is a liar, because hey she is mixed race. I have already said that the Royal Family is not racist, but some the royal family advisors would not take kindly to a non white person marrying into the Royal Family.

Meghan has always been an advocate, Don. So what if she wants to go into Politics?

Meghan has her flaws, but she is a victim, treated like a pariah because she does not conform, rather like Diana and Fergie. And I like her. In fact I like her even more. Because she pi$$es you off Don. And dreadful mediocre gits like Piers Morgan.


Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Well why upset a system with a ruling system of aristocrats the other side of the world away when its worked okay for centuries -

Would you seriously want a President Keating - it'd end up with a Communist Party takeover if the President was given too much power.
don_dunstan
Well why upset a system with a ruling system of aristocrats the other side of the world away when its worked okay for centuries

So your happy with a bunch of Royal Elites with immense power and wealth, treating the UK as a Tax haven, ruling Australia whilst criticizing anyone who are in the slightest bit progressive as political elites?

That's why I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Well why upset a system with a ruling system of aristocrats the other side of the world away when its worked okay for centuries -

Would you seriously want a President Keating - it'd end up with a Communist Party takeover if the President was given too much power.
Well why upset a system with a ruling system of aristocrats the other side of the world away when its worked okay for centuries

So your happy with a bunch of Royal Elites with immense power and wealth, treating the UK as a Tax haven, ruling Australia whilst criticizing anyone who are in the slightest bit progressive as political elites?

That's why I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

Michael
mejhammers1
...and you deliberately didn't answer my observation about the alternatives.

If it was up to the Labor Party we'd have a communist-party indoctrinated ex-Labor leader (take your pick) who would unashamedly align us with the PRC. You honestly think that's better!
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Well why upset a system with a ruling system of aristocrats the other side of the world away when its worked okay for centuries -

Would you seriously want a President Keating - it'd end up with a Communist Party takeover if the President was given too much power.
Well why upset a system with a ruling system of aristocrats the other side of the world away when its worked okay for centuries

So your happy with a bunch of Royal Elites with immense power and wealth, treating the UK as a Tax haven, ruling Australia whilst criticizing anyone who are in the slightest bit progressive as political elites?

That's why I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

Michael
...and you deliberately didn't answer my observation about the alternatives.

If it was up to the Labor Party we'd have a communist-party indoctrinated ex-Labor leader (take your pick) who would unashamedly align us with the PRC. You honestly think that's better!
don_dunstan
Like you answer any questions put forward to you.

Again that is your opinion, based on nothing except your blind belief that anyone who is in the ALP or is in the slightest way progressive must be a Communist Party Hack and a stooge for the People's Republic of China. I get it, you hate the ALP or anything left of Genghis Khan, which is your right.

Michael
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
^ As long as you realise that what you feel is out of step.
Nup, the majority of British people (for example) feel the same way that I do - Daily Mail:

Most Britons think the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were wrong to have given their explosive interview, a poll reveals today.

A majority of the public believes they have let down the Queen – and should be stripped of their royal titles.

The survey was conducted after millions watched the bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview on ITV on Monday.

It reveals the monarchy has been damaged, with even the Queen's personal popularity taking a hit – though not as much as that of Harry and Prince Charles.

But asked about the couple's incendiary accusations of racism within the Royal Family, more people disbelieved Meghan's claims than believed her.

don_dunstan
Like any pundit found out and exposed, you shift the goal posts.

British, are you?

As an Aussie (I presume) you found a meme that agrees with your prejudices. Once challenged, you then defend your position by tying yourself to the apron strings of the mother country.

British, are you?

Please provide a link (I asked nicely) to demonstrate that the majority of Australians think the same as (1) you, and (2) Daily Mail poll respondents regarding the interview.

Maybe you are British!

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