City Loop is 40 years old this week

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The Melbourne City Loop is 40 years old this week.

What are you memories of the construction and the early riding of the loop?

I recall passing Flagstaff station which was not opened initially when I was travelling around the loop.  I believe Museum opened first and then Parliament.

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  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

The Melbourne City Loop is 40 years old this week.

What are you memories of the construction and the early riding of the loop?

I recall passing Flagstaff station which was not opened initially when I was travelling around the loop.  I believe Museum opened first and then Parliament.
bevans
I remember when the loop first opened they even ran wooden Tait trains through it initially then the newer Hitachis came on .

Imagine the :safety nazis" with wooden bodied sparks in an undeground, but wooden bodied trains were also common undeground in Sydeny, Athens and as recently as 2009 in Budapest.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Walked one of the tunnels prior to the opening.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I'm surprised that it's only 40. Counting the initial years-long talk-fest, and the ultimate building of the loop, it seems more like 60 years.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I'm surprised that it's only 40. Counting the initial years-long talk-fest, and the ultimate building of the loop, it seems more like 60 years.
Valvegear

it is amazing we are talking about celebrating the only underground rail service built in Melbourne for over a generation.  Shameful but at least we have metro 1 coming which is better news.  So when it is completed it will have been almost 45 years?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I'm surprised that it's only 40. Counting the initial years-long talk-fest, and the ultimate building of the loop, it seems more like 60 years.
Valvegear
Not saying that the loop was not needed but it marked the beginning of the end of the previously almost infinitely flexible  Melbourne suburban system based on Flinders Street.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

The Melbourne City Loop is 40 years old this week.

What are you memories of the construction and the early riding of the loop?

I recall passing Flagstaff station which was not opened initially when I was travelling around the loop.  I believe Museum opened first and then Parliament.
I remember when the loop first opened they even ran wooden Tait trains through it initially then the newer Hitachis came on .

Imagine the :safety nazis" with wooden bodied sparks in an undeground, but wooden bodied trains were also common undeground in Sydeny, Athens and as recently as 2009 in Budapest.
kuldalai

Pretty sure the entire Hitachi fleet was already delivered by the time the City Loop opened. The Comengs finished off the Taits and Harris.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Not saying that the loop was not needed but it marked the beginning of the end of the previously almost infinitely flexible Melbourne suburban system based on Flinders Street.
YM-Mundrabilla
Do you think the pre-loop system would have coped with today's service frequencies and passenger numbers?
  712M Chief Commissioner

The Loop didn’t actually add capacity to the system, rather it spread the load from the two main stations over five. It was effectively an extension of the existing lines that already ran into Flinders Street and Princes Bridge.

When the loop opened, this actually cut capacity for a lot of lines where 2-3 pairs of tracks were now merging into one tunnel, with previously independent lines forced to share the same tracks.

The only new line into and out of the city built since then was the RRL in 2015 and now MM1.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Not saying that the loop was not needed but it marked the beginning of the end of the previously almost infinitely flexible Melbourne suburban system based on Flinders Street.
Do you think the pre-loop system would have coped with today's service frequencies and passenger numbers?
Gman_86
Flinders Street copes with the numbers of trains of today via the loop and, in fact, has fewer platforms and much less flexibility now than hitherto. The ability to cope with passenger numbers from the three loop stations in addition to those to/from Flinders Street is another matter with reduced platform capacity and what appear (?) longer dwell times.
  Adogs Chief Train Controller

The Melbourne City Loop is 40 years old this week.

What are you memories of the construction and the early riding of the loop?

I recall passing Flagstaff station which was not opened initially when I was travelling around the loop.  I believe Museum opened first and then Parliament.
I remember when the loop first opened they even ran wooden Tait trains through it initially then the newer Hitachis came on .

Imagine the :safety nazis" with wooden bodied sparks in an undeground, but wooden bodied trains were also common undeground in Sydeny, Athens and as recently as 2009 in Budapest.
kuldalai

Unless I'm remembering wrong, they ran a wooden Tait through the loop exactly once, by mistake.  The Hitachis were already delivered when the loop opened - the photos celebrating the opening have Hitachis.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Early 1980's soon after Flagstaff was opened I went through the Loop and we stopped there and alighted and took photo's.

Nothing outstanding about that you say...except I was travelling in a special DERM (Diesel Electric Rail Motor). Imagine doing that these days Question

Mike.
  L1150 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Pakenham Vic.
Early 1980's soon after Flagstaff was opened I went through the Loop and we stopped there and alighted and took photo's.

Nothing outstanding about that you say...except I was travelling in a special DERM (Diesel Electric Rail Motor). Imagine doing that these days Question

Mike.
The Vinelander
I remember that trip too. I  recall that the special working timetable instructed that all exhaust fans in the loop be on full power for the passage of the special train. Given the black clouds that came out of the exhaust of a DERM when the throttle was pushed to the max (which it had to be to get the under powered DERMs to move!) it is surprising that the trip was  allowed at all. I wonder if R. L. Abbot was on that trip, he loved measuring the performance of them.Very Happy
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Pity they don’t arrange a shutdown weekend whilst Covid has impact on passenger numbers and give the walls (and whatever else needing it) a damn good going over with the pressure sprayer to get rid of all those years worth of grot/dust/whatever grime.

The place is looking rather unkept to the point it’s more like a decrepit looking sh.t pit. The concrete cancer on platform 4 at Parliament IIRC has a slow water leak out of the wall rusting the metal cladding.

It is a disgrace, particularly being underground stations where there’s not much else to look at other than that?

Wait, everyone else is on their phones so, it must be just me who noticed this??

Regards
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
I was in Scouts and our troop managed to score a visit to the Museum Station construction site. Pretty awesome for a 12yo. I think that helped cement my career as a Civil Engineer.

Somewhere I should have a tooth from the tunnel roadheader (not the TBM)...
  tazzer96 Chief Commissioner

Half the problem with flinders street is the fact that trains "terminate" here, on through lines.

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