French parliament backs ban on short domestic flights that compete with rail

 

News article: French parliament backs ban on short domestic flights that compete with rail

THE French National Assembly has voted to approve a ban on internal flights where an alternative train journey is available on a trip of 2h 30min or less following a long consultation exercise on climate change.

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Australia needs to take a good look at how Europe is not only managing climate change initiatives but how they are purposefully managing the best way to get people around the continent.

“It’s not about trains versus planes, it’s about picking the right mode for the right journey type.

This is the sort of intervention we should be aspiring to in the UK.

To make this happen here we need a similar commitment to high-speed rail to release capacity for lower carbon journeys, and to electrification to make train travel even greener.”
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When is the Australian Government going to understand fast rail services will lead to lower emissions as aircraft and car use lowers.  It would also be easier for airlines to offer seats on the trains for shorter journeys.

I would advocate for Melbourne to Albury/Sydney to Canberra

French parliament backs ban on short domestic flights that compete with rail

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Australia needs to take a good look at how Europe is not only managing climate change initiatives but how they are purposefully managing the best way to get people around the continent.

“It’s not about trains versus planes, it’s about picking the right mode for the right journey type.

This is the sort of intervention we should be aspiring to in the UK.

To make this happen here we need a similar commitment to high-speed rail to release capacity for lower carbon journeys, and to electrification to make train travel even greener.”

When is the Australian Government going to understand fast rail services will lead to lower emissions as aircraft and car use lowers.  It would also be easier for airlines to offer seats on the trains for shorter journeys.

I would advocate for Melbourne to Albury/Sydney to Canberra

French parliament backs ban on short domestic flights that compete with rail
bevans

Hmm...not Melbourne to Mildura Question

M.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Australia needs to take a good look at how Europe is not only managing climate change initiatives but how they are purposefully managing the best way to get people around the continent.

“It’s not about trains versus planes, it’s about picking the right mode for the right journey type.

This is the sort of intervention we should be aspiring to in the UK.

To make this happen here we need a similar commitment to high-speed rail to release capacity for lower carbon journeys, and to electrification to make train travel even greener.”

When is the Australian Government going to understand fast rail services will lead to lower emissions as aircraft and car use lowers.  It would also be easier for airlines to offer seats on the trains for shorter journeys.

I would advocate for Melbourne to Albury/Sydney to Canberra

French parliament backs ban on short domestic flights that compete with rail
bevans
So of your list and other similar, how many flights a day are there between
- Melbourne and Albury
- Sydney and Wagga
- Sydney and Dubbo,
- Brisbane and Bundaberg

Realistically these and perhaps a few other city pairs are basically most that compare to France ruling. With the exception of Dubbo, I dare say rail has the bulk of the PT share. Dubbo should improve post CAF sets with two services a day.

Sydney - Canberra is very much the outlier that should be given a priority to upgrade services to MSR. Sydney - Newcastle should also be sped up.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Stop comparing us to Europe @bevans. We don't have the infrastructure or the money to spend regardless of what you think and the car is going to be more environmentally friendly before the train will be in this country.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Stop comparing us to Europe @bevans. We don't have the infrastructure or the money to spend regardless of what you think and the car is going to be more environmentally friendly before the train will be in this country.
simstrain
There's absolutely no comparison between the French rail system and our rail/road system in this country - they're not the same. France's mostly electrified long-haul high speed network is powered by zero-carbon nuclear power plants - that's the primary reason why the French are doing that - to try and meet this nebulous goal of 'zero carbon'. Our trains/buses are still 100% diesel.

And whenever you deprive consumers of a market choice as they're doing there's always a cost.
  Upven Junior Train Controller

Stop comparing us to Europe @bevans. We don't have the infrastructure or the money to spend regardless of what you think and the car is going to be more environmentally friendly before the train will be in this country.
There's absolutely no comparison between the French rail system and our rail/road system in this country - they're not the same. France's mostly electrified long-haul high speed network is powered by zero-carbon nuclear power plants - that's the primary reason why the French are doing that - to try and meet this nebulous goal of 'zero carbon'. Our trains/buses are still 100% diesel.

And whenever you deprive consumers of a market choice as they're doing there's always a cost.
don_dunstan
Well to be fair, watching a few cab-ride videos of the French system I see a lot of similarities with Melbourne, but they're not positive. Just mostly the common features of overgrown weeds, tracks dumped on the side of the track etc.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
It was only a decade-ish ago when the French national railways conceded the fact that they'd have to let private companies compete on the national rail network.

They're not doing this for the favour of the environment or "best mode of transit", they're protecting their smeg from any competition like the Victorian Railways used to to up until the mid 70's

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