Locos ex Durban

 
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

On Friday 12/03, ex Qld locos 2174D/2177F/2202D were moved from Wentworth Diesel to the Durban wharf by TFR.

Purchased by Watco. Decrepit condition. 2174D/2177F cannibalised, but able to be moved by rail with bypass hose for vacuum brakes. Photos of the moves on Facebook Groups.

A possible vessel is the "Hoegh Trigger", a Ro-Ro that docked in Durban 13/14 March. This vessel is currently in Melbourne.
No reports (or photos) from Durban of the loading.

If the "Hoegh Trigger" proceeds to Brisbane, may be worth keeping an eye on.

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  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
For possible rebuild by Progress Rail at Redbank or parts donors perhaps?
  GT46C-ACe Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
Next stop for that car carrier is Port Kembla, have to wonder if Hoegh Autolines carries trains?
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

For possible rebuild by Progress Rail at Redbank or parts donors perhaps?
2202D is in better nick than the other 2, in TFR livery numbered 35809.

This loco was moved from Bellville Shed (Cape Town) to the Koedoespoort Works at Pretoria in the second half of 2018.

The plan was to rebuild this unit, together with 2173F and 2210D stored at Koedosepoort for use by NRZ in Zimbabwe, prior to a number of the 2250 stored at Wentworth been fully rebuilt. Zimbabwe is in desperate need of 111 tonne C-C locos.

2173F and 2210D are currently here (Google Earth) 25°43'27.44" S  28°16'22.18" E

Transnet were part of the Diaspora Infrastructure Development Group contracted to recapitalise NRZ. Some chaps from the Arabian Peninsula, with ready access to oodles of boodle, offered the Zim Cabinet members rivers of baksheesh, and the DIDG deal was cancelled and retendered. the sorry story here
https://businesstimes.co.zw/new-twist-to-nrz-recapitalisation-saga/
https://newzwire.live/timeline-nrzs-tortured-journey-to-nowhere/
The dispute is now with the Zimbabwe courts, and any recapitalisation of the rail system is on hold
https://allafrica.com/stories/202009040769.html

Trains continue to run in Zim. NRZ still functions with around a dozen or 15 operational locos. The north south corridor is controlled by the Mauritius resident NLPI, via their Beitbridge Bulawayo Railway (a BOT scheduled to run until 2029). NLPI lease the BBR locos from Mauritius based Railco Africa (a Grindrod/Remgro/Trafigura JV), Coal and export chrome ore are moved with locos from South African loco hire contractors, in mainly leased TFR or CFM high sided gondolas.

  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Next stop for that car carrier is Port Kembla, have to wonder if Hoegh Autolines carries trains?
GT46C-ACe
It carried bulldozers and mobile cranes to Durban from Europe. Ro-Ro have been used to carry locos from Brisbane to Durban.
  GT46C-ACe Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
Seems odd to use a 6.5m deck height to transport a locomotive plus bunting plus something to get it out from inside that hold. Seeing as I know f all about shipping I'll take the word a locomotive will go in a PCTC.

Thanks for all that info about some other countries political situation, just like Mr Turner.....who cares?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
For the benefit of other iggerent people like me:

'Pure car, truck carrier (PCTC)
The PCTC is a purpose-built vessel for the transportation of different types of rolling cargo, such as new private cars and trucks, heavy construction equipment, and other heavy loads. The vessels are usually configured with 10-13 decks for the loading of different vehicle types; axle loads varying between 1.2 tonnes and over 22 tonnes.'

Thanks to the Wartsila website.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Well, this explains the two vaguely QR loco shaped tarped loads in Qubes North Dynon yard.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Well, this explains the two vaguely QR loco shaped tarped loads in Qubes North Dynon yard.
speedemon08
Plus the wrapped loco photographed departing Fisherman Islands

Possible sighting of an unwrapped 2250 in Melbourne, so may have been more than 3 shipped

Cape Town reports said 35802/35803/35809 (all 2170) were sold to Watco
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

One of the newly arrived Melbourne 2250s appears to be an ex-1550 rebuild - possibly 2265 (originally 1574H) - from a group of twenty 110-tonne 2250s Transnet (South Africa) has had for sale on the international market since last year. While presumably it will be going to a narrow gauge operator, its turbo-charged EMD 12-645E3C primemover is the same as those used in the 1st series N class N451-N460.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

One of the newly arrived Melbourne 2250s appears to be an ex-1550 rebuild - possibly 2265 (originally 1574H) - from a group of twenty 110-tonne 2250s Transnet (South Africa) has had for sale on the international market since last year. While presumably it will be going to a narrow gauge operator, its turbo-charged EMD 12-645E3C primemover is the same as those used in the 1st series N class N451-N460.
Sulla1
Locos in Melbourne are 2263/2265 without bogies.

The bogies were landed in Fremantle.

Three 2170 landed in Brisbane, TFR 35802 (2174D), 35803 (2177F), and 35809 (2202D).

2174D is in apparently fair condition, the other 2 were never used by TFR, served as a parts source for the other 10 2170 that were allocated to the Bellville Shed (Cape Town).
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Hoegh Autoliners press release

Locomotives on Car Carriers

https://www.hoeghautoliners.com/news-and-media/news-and-press-releases/smooth-sailing-for-heavy-locomotives

These are the 3 2170 purchased by Watco
  hbedriver Assistant Commissioner

So, we’ve all worked out that 2265 is at North Dynon, beside another loco wearing QRNational colours. Now another loco has appeared beside them, under a tarpaulin. Looks like a smaller version of a VR B class, two cabs etc, but hard to tell beneath that tarp. Visible from South Kensington station. Any ideas?
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

So, we’ve all worked out that 2265 is at North Dynon, beside another loco wearing QRNational colours. Now another loco has appeared beside them, under a tarpaulin. Looks like a smaller version of a VR B class, two cabs etc, but hard to tell beneath that tarp. Visible from South Kensington station. Any ideas?
hbedriver
The second pair of 2250.

2259/2270 were moved from Koedoespoort to Durban 14/03/2021, said to be for export.

The first pair landed in Melbourne are 2263 and 2265, from the stockpile at Wentworth Diesel. Were unwrapped and stored in the QUBE area. 2265 is now at Cardiff.

A Train Tracker Victoria group post is saying second 2 units are "under tarps/plastic wraps".
Durban contact expects more have already been, or will be shipped. The Durban docks cover a huge area, are behind walls and razor wire, no public access, hard to know what is happening inside. Owned by Transnet, the government port/railway/pipeline monopoly.
  1771D Train Controller

None of them ever should have left QLD.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

None of them ever should have left QLD.
1771D
Why?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Because, unlike NSW and Victoria, new operators in Queensland have had almost zero access to secondhand locomotives unless they're prepared to import them from South Africa or New Zealand - largely due to apparent anticompetitive rollingstock sales carried out by QR and Aurizon between the 1990s and 2010s that saw hundreds of 20 to 30-year old locomotives exported to South America, New Zealand and South Africa or auctioned with caveats preventing local use for a period of years. It is hard to see these actions as anything else but to prevent potential new operators acquiring secondhand locomotives suitable for operations in Queensland.
  hbedriver Assistant Commissioner

There are now two locos under tarps and without bogies beside the old QRNational locos. Too hard to tell the shape, but appears as a car body style. My first thought was an MZ (surely QUBE aren't that hard up?) Something European? The mystery continues.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Loco 2263 was seen in SA today, possible heading to Progress Rail workshop at Port August for rebuilding. (edited to correct loco number)
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

2263 at Jamestown 02/06/2021, photo by Colin Workman, posted to South Australian Railway Enthusiasts, Facebook.com
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Images on social media this afternoon with 2177 in full Transnet livery leaving the Port of Brisbane by road. Reports were another three 2170s at the port waiting to leave on multi axle low-loaders. A fourth 2170 has not been previously noted.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

An ABC Western Queensland news report today about Watco planning to run weekly cattle trains from Morven, also notes the company has imported 11 locomotives from South Africa to be commissioned over the next five to six months - indicating six locomotives must have arrived in the latest shipment (or if that 11 doesn't include the five WRBs already in use, then the total may actually be 11 additional locos).

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/westqld/programs/abc-westqld-local-news/abc-western-qld-local-news/13387790?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf246951451&utm_campaign=abc_western_queensland&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf246951451=1&fbclid=IwAR0LCg2-A0EiSqXv3PG0XEPdAgtN7NLhzsS6v5mPBGzCgVMxPw16zMAzp6E
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Watco has moved 2174D, 2177D and 2202D by rail to Warwick. Three light engine movements were undertaken due to QR's restrictions on multiple coupled locomotives on the West Moreton system (only two 94.5-tonne locomotives can run coupled together).
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Units returned from South Africa to date.
GWA June 2019, 2260/61/62/69/75
Watco July 2019 2180/81/83/84/88
Qube (tranche 1) April 2021 2263/2265
Watco May 2021 2174/77 and 2202
Qube (tranche 2) May 2021 2253/2254
Qube (tranche 3) July 2021 2270 plus on other still to be ID'd
Rumours from Durban of further SA exports.

Can anyone confirm that the 6th Qube loco is 2259? 2259 was moved from Pretoria to Durban together with 2270 on 13/03. All of the 2021 imports were on Ro-Ro vessels.

  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Images on social media this afternoon showing a silver ex-2250 on a low-loader heading east from South Australia.

Numbered PRL202, it is most likely ex-2263, which went to Port Augusta earlier this year. It now has a toilet fitted to the long hood end.

The numbering appears to indicate it is a lease loco owned by Progress. In North America Progress' leased fleet reporting mark is PRLX. There's a reasonable expectation it is coming to Townsville as part of Qube's new Mt Isa Line contract.

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