None of this is correct.
Qantas has received more than $1.2 billion directly from the Commonwealth and state governments since the start of the pandemic last year. So what you said there was just plain correct.
Its all correct Don
Of course they got $1.2B, the states and Feds destroyed their business. Qantas could of happily survived without international and the short-term April lockdown, but the states made operating an airline impossible beyond June.
If the states want to be serviced by air transport beyond lockdowns, then they need to keep the airlines from going bankrupt.
If the government needed to keep essential air travel open they should have contracted their own flights - instead they used Qantas to keep paying the shareholders and the executives (and the staff). Fair enough but it's corporate welfare - please use the correct title for it... not "ensuring an essential business". When it comes down to it, domestic air travel is not an essential business in the same way that health or education is.
Contracting to who Don?
Australia had interstate airlines, one went broke due to ongoing internal reasons so the ability to issue contracts was impossible. So they basically paid Qantas to keep air corridors open.
The govt didn't pay shareholders Don.
Even if you contract Don, the contracts are to pay staff.
It really isn't the public's financial concern keeping airlines in sky - we abdicated all responsibility when we deregulated and privatised. Frankly I'm astonished that Frydenburg actually said 'no' to Virgin when they were already giving money to Qantas. As it happened Virgin managed to procure $20 million from the QLD government in the form of equity: Again, money down the drain, Virgin is already bleeding to death and its only been months since it was re-floated as a business - I think the QLD taxpayers can safely say 'bye bye' to that twenty million.
Its very much in the pubic's concern to keep the airline business afloat during a period of govt induced lockdowns and border closures.
How many times do you need to be told Don, Qantas is under the Fed govt leash. Its called the Qantas Act, worth a read.
If you are astonished why Fryenburg said "No" to Virgin, then you have been asleep at the wheel and should refrain from continuing to engaged on a topic you clearly know nothing about.
Obviously you need a history lesson on why the Qld govt paid Virgin to stay.
And don't kid yourself, once industries start getting corporate welfare from the government they'll always want more - wasn't that the lesson of the car industry you were alluding to there? There is no valid reason whatsoever as to why the government should be putting any more hard-earned taxpayer money into sustaining YET ANOTHER unprofitable business for no other reason than to prevent capitalism taking its course.
Oh comon Don, this is getting pathetic.
Car industry was on drip feed for decades, even in the end the car industry made its own decision and told the govt thanks but no thanks it just doesn't make sense.
Domestic airline industry was stabbed in the guts by a short term issue, made worse by dumb attention seeking premiers. Qantas was profitable in the years prior to CV-19 and had there been no CV-19 would have been hit with Corporate tax in 2020.
I have a close friend in London's suburbs who can't return to Australia, doesn't know when she will be able to return to Australia - and it's really upsetting her because she can't see family - nor can they see her.
Yeah, its called flight caps. Been nearly 12mths now with another 12mth to go. She's in a large club. We used our budget for travel to Australia in April last year to spend a week in the Maldives, I would strongly recommend she do the same and she will quickly forget about what she cannot control.
Unfortunately that's the price you pay for moving overseas, international travel has been hopelessly complicated by this thing. And its a very, very popular policy out here in the antipodes - the public by and large have decided that's what they want.
the bubble wrap society doesn't know what it doesn't know. One day they will find out about the truth of Santa Claus and there will be tears.
I personally don't agree with it - I'm more with you in the sense that we should have probably pursued a Swedish solution to managing it - but I don't have any say over public opinion and locked international borders is the policy for at least another 12 months, full-stop.
Don, please do not put me in the Sweden boat. That was the worlds biggest F-up and Sweden learnt and long painful lesson. I'd be surprised if that guy ever works again.
Border closures had their place, that time is passed and its time to start changing the rules based on the fact more Australian expats than Australian domestic citizens have been vaccinated and there are reliable systems that other countries use to enable less restrictive travel than 14 days in at times a $hitty hotel including the use self quarantine with trackers. The govt has kept it quiet, but there has been a number of people who have committed suicide in HQ, which is why now bags are searched for alcohol and all deliveries are searched for alcohol which is limited to a few drinks a day.