46th President of the United States -

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Well see my primary issue is that if you were going to discuss my arguments rather than attack me and insult me I could probably have a cordial conversation with you. But the problem is that you constantly call me names in an attempt to get a rise out of me -
"don_dunstan"
Is that why you just called me Mr Zinger?  Surely it couldn't be.

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  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
I'm none of the things you say I am, you have absolutely no reason to believe that I'm bigoted in any way against anyone
That must be the problem, folks; he just doesn't seem to understand bigotry.
Valvegear
It is a common trait amongst that type of folk. For example, thinking that free speech gives them the unequivocal right to engage in hate speech because they can't tell the difference. Or hating what they see as political correctness because they resent governments telling them how to behave, yet the rest of us don't actually need to be told how to behave because we already do. Or, while not attributing this directly to Don, saying stuff like "I'm not racist, but..." It is endemic in his cohort. As an aside, did anyone else read this article that referred Don's fellow One Nation supporters?

Most Australians believe there's a lot of racism these days, but experts say recognising discrimination is just the beginning - ABC News

Full of hate.

He recognisies that he is the odd one out, but remains convinced that he's not mad the rest of the world is, and apoplectic that the rest of us can't see it his way. Unable to rise above mediocrity because of a hangup about decisions made decades ago (Hawke/Keating) which saw the rest of us prosper while he languished. Playing the victim, yet when on the attack, blames the victim. Implores people to move on when he is losing an argument, but is unable to do so in real life.

His disability has made him angry at the world and we must suffer, it seems. I treat people equally regardless. If I think he deserves a whack, he'll get one.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

The accusations against Trump are just that - accusations. Have they been proven in a court of law yet? If not don't talk to me about them, I'm not interested.

That is not the same thing as condoning that behaviour - that's really a quantum leap in logic.

Joe Biden clearly has a thing for fondling young ladies as the various videos of him clearly show. Are you denying that he's an obvious perv?
don_dunstan

Typical Duncestan. A mess of a reply which deflects and sees our village idiot flare up in only what he could possibly think is somehow a win.

If you care to read back in this very thread, I never denied that Joe Biden has had as yet unproven in court accusations of sexual misconduct levelled at him. In fact at 8:46pm on the 1st of June I replied to you with:


This thread is about Joe Biden and what a stand-up bloke he is. Speaking of which - are all you people suffering from the same delusion? He's clearly a leery old man yet not a single one of you is prepared to acknowledge it.

I acknowledge that Joe Biden is an old man, is showing his age and has had as yet unproven allegations of miscounduct to women levelled at him.
lowtensionearth


You might want to try better next time Duncestan.

On the subject of allegations made against Donald Trump, I'm again asking if you'd care to comment on the recordings of Donald Trump saying 'grab her by the pussy'? Or are you going to deflect on that one and once again condone it just like you do the rest of Donald's sexual misconduct as well?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

I'm none of the things you say I am, you have absolutely no reason to believe that I'm bigoted in any way against anyone
That must be the problem, folks; he just doesn't seem to understand bigotry.
It is a common trait amongst that type of folk. For example, thinking that free speech gives them the unequivocal right to engage in hate speech because they can't tell the difference. Or hating what they see as political correctness because they resent governments telling them how to behave, yet the rest of us don't actually need to be told how to behave because we already do. Or, while not attributing this directly to Don, saying stuff like "I'm not racist, but..." It is endemic in his cohort. As an aside, did anyone else read this article that referred Don's fellow One Nation supporters?

Most Australians believe there's a lot of racism these days, but experts say recognising discrimination is just the beginning - ABC News

Full of hate.

He recognisies that he is the odd one out, but remains convinced that he's not mad the rest of the world is, and apoplectic that the rest of us can't see it his way. Unable to rise above mediocrity because of a hangup about decisions made decades ago (Hawke/Keating) which saw the rest of us prosper while he languished. Playing the victim, yet when on the attack, blames the victim. Implores people to move on when he is losing an argument, but is unable to do so in real life.

His disability has made him angry at the world and we must suffer, it seems. I treat people equally regardless. If I think he deserves a whack, he'll get one.
DirtyBallast
You wise sage. I could not have put it better myself. He thinks that I am racist because I call out racism.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The accusations against Trump are just that - accusations. Have they been proven in a court of law yet? If not don't talk to me about them, I'm not interested.

That is not the same thing as condoning that behaviour - that's really a quantum leap in logic.

Joe Biden clearly has a thing for fondling young ladies as the various videos of him clearly show. Are you denying that he's an obvious perv?

Typical Duncestan. A mess of a reply which deflects and sees our village idiot flare up in only what he only he could possibly think is somehow a win.

If you care to read back in this very thread, I never denied that Joe Biden has had as yet unproven in court accusations of sexual misconduct levelled at him. In fact at 8:46pm on the 1st of June I replied to you with:


This thread is about Joe Biden and what a stand-up bloke he is. Speaking of which - are all you people suffering from the same delusion? He's clearly a leery old man yet not a single one of you is prepared to acknowledge it.

I acknowledge that Joe Biden is an old man, is showing his age and has had as yet unproven allegations of miscounduct to women levelled at him.


You might want to try better next time Duncestan.

On the subject of allegations made against Donald Trump, I'm once again asking if you'd care to comment on the recordings of Donald Trump saying 'grab her by the pussy'? Or are you going to deflect on that one and once again condone it just like you do the rest of Donald's sexual misconduct as well?
lowtensionearth
Well excuse me for not being across everything that you write but frankly its not in the entertaining or particularly engaging so my eyes tend to glass over when I'm reading it.

People who have been communicating with me on this board long-term like Valvegear and Dirty Ballast know that they have to construct their responses in a way that attracts my attention or I'll just fail to notice it - a bit like a neighbor's Pomeranian yapping from behind the fence.

So yeah. Be less wallpaper would be my advice.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

Yawn.

Answer the question Duncestan.

Why do you selectively condone sexual misconduct towards women when it suits you?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
You wise sage. I could not have put it better myself. He thinks that I am racist because I call out racism.


Michael
mejhammers1
Nah actually all you do is judge, jury and executioner anyone you don't like here.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Well excuse me for not being across everything that you write but frankly its not in the entertaining or particularly engaging so my eyes tend to glass over when I'm reading it.
"don_dunstan"
Translation: I have no answer to what you say, so I will resort to obfuscation as is my custom.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Yawn.

Answer the question Duncestan.

Why do you selectively condone sexual misconduct towards women when it suits you?
lowtensionearth
As I explained to you already, not really be interested in allegations of sexual misconduct against an ex-President and that is not equivalent to condoning any aspect of the alleged behaviour.

Not sure why you are having trouble with that part, perhaps you're simply in love with me and can't admit it to yourself.

Take a number.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Well excuse me for not being across everything that you write but frankly its not in the entertaining or particularly engaging so my eyes tend to glass over when I'm reading it.
Translation: I have no answer to what you say, so I will resort to obfuscation as is my custom.
Valvegear
OBFUSCATION: That's MY word, thank-you very much. You had never, ever heard of that word before I used it here and you had to Google it.

Now slip it in where-ever you can just like I do when I want to appear intellectual.

Now it's a four-paragraph love letter you've written to me tonight.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

Again yawn,

I know you’re incapable but it’s in your interest to attempt to answer the question Duncestan. Every deflection is just further validating our opinions of you.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

While I'm here...

Are homophobic remarks from yourself accusing us of being infatuated with yourself all you've got Duncestan? Is that all you can pull out of your hat when the going gets tough for you?

I could say your constant jabs about men being infatuated probably says more about you than others but that'd probably go over your head too.

Back to the subject, care to comment on why you condone sexual misconduct against women when it suits you Don?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Again yawn,

I know you’re incapable but it’s in your interest to attempt to answer the question Duncestan. Every deflection is just is further validating our opinions or you.
lowtensionearth
LOL you speak for all of 'them' now do you?
  lowtensionearth Station Master

Again yawn,

I know you’re incapable but it’s in your interest to attempt to answer the question Duncestan. Every deflection is just is further validating our opinions or you.
LOL you speak for all of 'them' now do you?
don_dunstan

I'm sure all the others consistently picking you up (I only mean that as in your writing. Not all this males being infatuated with you stuff you keep falling back on) would be keen to say present if I held a roll call.

So yeah, we all think you're a dunce, Duncestan.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

You wise sage. I could not have put it better myself. He thinks that I am racist because I call out racism.


Michael
Nah actually all you do is judge, jury and executioner anyone you don't like here.
don_dunstan
And here you are accusing me of displaying the very behaviour that you exhibit every time you post.

Nah, All I have is a different view than you and if you are being racist, you will be called a racist. And Don, you will help your well - being by not assuming that everyone is as hateful as you.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I'm sure all the others consistently picking you up (I only mean that as in your writing. Not all this males being infatuated with you stuff you keep falling back on) would be keen to say present if I held a roll call.
lowtensionearth

So not only are you the holder of the ultimate synopsis of who and what I am but you're also the leader of all the discontents on this board.

Got it.
So yeah, we all think you're a dunce, Duncestan.
lowtensionearth
Nah, it's love Mister Low Tension. I can spot it a mile away. The doey eyes, the infatuation. You just can't bring yourself to admit that you're in love is all.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

It’s late over here on the East Coast Duncestan and I’m going to bed (no, not to dream about you before you make one of your lame homophobic jokes).

I know you haven’t displayed any whatsoever yet and I won’t hold my breath, but if you can at least attempt to display some intestinal fortitude for once and answer my question instead of deflecting or ignoring it. Why do you condone sexual misconduct towards women when it suits you Don?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
It’s late over here on the East Coast Duncestan and I’m going to bed (no, not to dream about you before you make one of your lame homophobic jokes).

I know you haven’t displayed any whatsoever yet and I won’t hold my breath, but if you can at least attempt to display some intestinal fortitude for once and answer my question instead of deflecting or ignoring it. Why do you condone sexual misconduct towards women when it suits you Don?
lowtensionearth
Sigh... That's more paragraphs of pure unadulterated adulation.

Bye bye new fan, sleep tight.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
You've been here five minutes and you feel that gives you the right to judge me?
Saves a lot of time:P
Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone agrees with your interpretation of the world and that there's room for other opinions?

I guess not.
There is a difference between opinions, that  I enjoy reading/listening, can even be convinced to change my mind on issues,  but I can't stand idiocy, hypocrisy or lying.
Nah you like to think of yourself as being a tolerant and agreeable person but in reality you're willing to stoop to any level to shut down conversations you don't agree with. Because Wobert is always right. Right?

That's kinda the opposite of what tolerant actually is - isn't it.
don_dunstan
Examples?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Sigh... That's more paragraphs of pure unadulterated adulation.

Bye bye new fan, sleep tight.
"don_dunstan"
Red herrings, self-adulation, obfuscation; anything except honestly addressing lowtensionearth's question. It makes one realise just how weak he really is - when the going gets tough, the weak run away and hide and we're all watching it happen.
  northbritish Chief Train Controller

You’ll have try harder to be provocative than that Duncestan.

Care to drop into that other thread and explain how you support Donald Trump against over twenty, some very credible allegations of sexual misconduct towards women? What credible information do you hold that the US courts don’t?
lowtensionearth
Allegations you note, not convictions.
  northbritish Chief Train Controller

Yawn.

Answer the question Duncestan.

Why do you selectively condone sexual misconduct towards women when it suits you?
lowtensionearth
Wow, that is a savage post. I don't seem to have seen where that happened. Please point it out.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

Sigh... That's more paragraphs of pure unadulterated adulation.

Bye bye new fan, sleep tight.
Red herrings, self-adulation, obfuscation; anything except honestly addressing lowtensionearth's question. It makes one realise just how weak he really is - when the going gets tough, the weak run away and hide and we're all watching it happen.
Valvegear

I agree. Unfortunately Don has only confirmed that he's incapable of holding his own in an argument let alone contributing in a worthwhile way to a proper debate.

He's only capable of going to water and imploding. I'd now be only wasting my time trying to draw a credible response from him because it will never come.


Yawn.

Answer the question Duncestan.

Why do you selectively condone sexual misconduct towards women when it suits you?
Wow, that is a savage post. I don't seem to have seen where that happened. Please point it out.
northbritish



I admit it is savage but I feel the premise was worth posing.

Don has continually on these forums referred to Joe Biden's sexual misconduct allegations as a way of attacking or dismissing Biden's presidency while showing continued support for Donald Trump. In that regard I feel it is valid to ask Don why he feels it is okay to regularly refer to Joe Biden's allegations while at the same time refusing to acknowledge those surrounding Donald Trump.

The only conclusion I can draw is that he's willing to overlook the sexual misconduct cases surrounding Trump. His tone and writings on this board show a clear bias towards Trump. If Don was truly concerned about sexual misconduct towards women he would acknowledge the claims against both Biden and Trump and treat them with equal gravity. He has not done that so far.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
That's an impressive bit of writing, I enjoyed reading that

PS  The majority of Dons arguments are based  on ideology, not facts.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

That's an impressive bit of writing, I enjoyed reading that

PS  The majority of Dons arguments are based  on ideology, not facts.
wobert

Thank you and I agree with you that Don operates purely on ideology as well. When his ideals are tested he is found wanting.

I admit that I and others have applied quite a bit of heat here but I believe that if gentle persuassion fails sometime's force is the only way to provoke an answer. Don clearly wasn't able to provide one.

I know he'll be along later with all sorts of commentary but my suspicions about Don have been confirmed and any more back and fourth between him and I wouldn't result in any credible argument or debate from him. With that I'll bow out.

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