Dooen freight hub

 
  bevans Site Admin

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  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Some great news here for the Dooen Freight Hub as well as a couple of other freight operators.

Victorian Funding boost for Wimmera freight industry via the Mode Shift Incentive Scheme.

WIMMERA Container Line in Dooen is one of four freight operators who will continue to receive incentives as the Victorian Government announces a funding extension until June 30, 2022.

Part of the 2021-22 Victorian budget, the Mode Shift Incentive Scheme will receive a total $3.6 million to continue the push to move more freight on rail and reduce heavy vehicle emissions.

Under the scheme, four freight operators will receive incentives to move up to a combined 42,508 containers by rail - taking the equivalent of 28,000 truck trips every year off country roads and reducing truck congestion on suburban roads around the Port of Melbourne.

The Mode Shift Incentive Scheme delivers almost $5 million in benefits to Victoria every year through reduced road maintenance, crashes, congestion and emissions - and will also continue to support other recipients such as Linx Portlink in Tocumwal, Westvic Container Export in Dennington and Seaway Intermodal in Merbein.


Freight operators receiving the Mode Shift Incentive Scheme play a crucial role inmoving Victorian produce to from the farm gate to our ports including meat, dairy, grain, hay, fresh fruit, oats, peas, wine and cheese - supporting more than 170 vital jobs across regional Victoria.


https://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/7255724/funding-boost-for-wimmera-freight-industry/?cs=12

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Some great news here for the Dooen Freight Hub as well as a couple of other freight operators.

Victorian Funding boost for Wimmera freight industry via the Mode Shift Incentive Scheme.

WIMMERA Container Line in Dooen is one of four freight operators who will continue to receive incentives as the Victorian Government announces a funding extension until June 30, 2022.

Part of the 2021-22 Victorian budget, the Mode Shift Incentive Scheme will receive a total $3.6 million to continue the push to move more freight on rail and reduce heavy vehicle emissions.
BigShunter

This is a net reduction when compared to the amount of money allocated last year. https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2214345.htm#2214345
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Some great news here for the Dooen Freight Hub as well as a couple of other freight operators.

Victorian Funding boost for Wimmera freight industry via the Mode Shift Incentive Scheme.

WIMMERA Container Line in Dooen is one of four freight operators who will continue to receive incentives as the Victorian Government announces a funding extension until June 30, 2022.

Part of the 2021-22 Victorian budget, the Mode Shift Incentive Scheme will receive a total $3.6 million to continue the push to move more freight on rail and reduce heavy vehicle emissions.

This is a net reduction when compared to the amount of money allocated last year. https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2214345.htm#2214345
bevans
Well the old saying, don't look a gift horse in the mouth, be thankful for small mercies blah blah, it's better than caning the program entirely Idea

BigShunter.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
SCT Group flags interest in expanding presence in Wimmera

AUGUST 12 2021

Alex Dalziel


The opportunity has presented itself for Horsham to become an Australia-wide transportation hub, as a major interstate transport logistics company sets its focus on the region.

Australian-owned SCT Group has announced a new initiative to develop its import capabilities at the Wimmera Agricultural Logistics Hub in Dooen, building on previous work at the Wodonga Intermodal Hub.

In Wodonga, the group built up the hub's capacity to handle palletised freight, container loads and refrigerated containers, and looks to replicate similar results at the Horsham site.

In 2013, SCT Group started running trains out of the Wimmera, with a focus on exporting grain.

SCT Group general manager Matt Eryurek said moving different types of freight onto the network would build economic resiliency in the region.


"One thing that rail and hubs do is that they attract rail and investment to the region, because the hub on its own is only a property. But with a train it gives the property connectivity to the state and also to the port," he said.

"The potential investor could be a manufacturer, a cold storage facility, or an ag business, who knows that building in the hub gives them the connection to the port and to the interstate network."

Mr Eryurek said the group hoped to work with road transport companies in the Wimmera to create a "natural integration" between both types of transport.

"When the customer is actually at your doorstep, you are not competing anymore with high productivity vehicles, you are actually feeding each other," he said.

The product leaves the farm into the manufacturing plant on an A-double or a truck set, but once it is produced, manufactured or processed it then goes onto a rail set.

"That allows the trucking community to focus on the first and last mile, and for the train set to focus on the hubbing sets in Adelaide, Melbourne, but also in Brisbane and Perth. So it creates a natural integration rather than competition."

The Wimmera Agriculture and Logistics Hub, formerly known as the Wimmera Intermodal Freight Terminal, has been the focus of council work to develop the site's industrial capability.

At a council meeting on June 15, the decision to sell 83.3ha of the land was resolved.

In 2022, SCT expects a bumper grain season and working with shipping lines to ensure the container equipment is available at Wimmera Agricultural Logistics Hub for the region.

The group will be operating up to five train services to and from the port of Melbourne to cater to the expected high volumes.


Mr Eryurek said SCT had also developed a working group in partnership with the Wimmera Development Association, Regional Development, and Freight Victoria to capitalise on the economic gains expected for the region.

"The key message is, we see the number of trucks which drive through Horsham, and we are hoping different sectors use this site as a hub as a pick up and drop off point without discounting the road industry where they can put their road trucks in and out of the hub and get better turn around times," he said.

"If we look at the hub and the concentration, it brings jobs. If we don't focus on the hub then it becomes a transit lane where people will drive through Horsham, but they won't stop in Horsham.

"With us we actually stop our trains in Horsham. Our train drivers are accommodated at the Horsham International. They eat at Cheeky Fox.

"What we are trying to say is let's not make Horsham a transit yard, but make it a concentrate of energy where people are staying in Horsham, eating in Horsham, travelling to Horsham."

"We are creating a network for Horsham, rather than just focusing on being an intermodal. We are hoping that the network we bring to Horsham's gateway will potentially bring the next Woolworths, bring the next packaging company to Horsham."

SCT Group has also been working with Federation University to explore possible working groups, traineeships and employment opportunities into the future.


https://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/7381972/wimmera-a-winner-for-national-freight-company/

There was also a piece this morning on ABC Wimmera Local News Bulletin at the 3:17 mark.
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  Richard stroker Train Controller

From what I have heard , it's cheaper to send containers by road than rail up that way.
It's been noted on here how a couple of companies switched to road from rail over the past year or so because it's cheaper.

The article doesn't mention anything on cost savings. I can't see how a couple of train drivers staying overnight In Horsham is an economic boom for the town
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
From what I have heard , it's cheaper to send containers by road than rail up that way.
It's been noted on here how a couple of companies switched to road from rail over the past year or so because it's cheaper.

The article doesn't mention anything on cost savings. I can't see how a couple of train drivers staying overnight In Horsham is an economic boom for the town
Richard stroker

I took away from the article there might be more development in the form of warehousing at the Dooen site.  Woolworths I believe are a major customer of SCT.  Let's hope something more develops on this front.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Reading the above indicates that they'll be capacity for import traffic (i.e. Port to Dooen goods, such as fertiliser etc).  This is a good development IMO.
  Richard stroker Train Controller

There already is room for imports with traffic they have lost . Plenty of spare room at the terminal, it's in the middle of big paddock . I heard it was that cheap to buy adjoins land they we're almost giving it away
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
More jobs are on the horizon as Johnson Asahi expands and builds a new factory at Dooen
JULY 21 2021

Cassandra Langley

CIVIL works will commence on a new state of the art facility at the Wimmera Agriculture and Logistics Hub at Dooen.

Horsham export hay processors Johnson Asahi is expanding its Victorian operation and has further cemented its commitment to the region with the new factory which will double the exporter's capacity to over 200,000 metric tonnes per annum.

Work will start in the coming months, with the facility being completed in 2022 ready for the new season hay of that year.

The project will see an additional 20 full-time equivalent long-term jobs created, taking the Horsham workforce to 50 employees. During the construction phase, an additional 80 jobs will be created.

Johnson's Managing Director Mark Johnson said the expansion was a commitment to ensure the future of the export hay industry for our loyal growers in the Wimmera region.


"We have been exporting from this region since 1995 and we have built solid relationships with many growers and we see the next generation as an important part of the industry going forward," he said.

"We have committed over $20 million to the Dooen project so far and we look forward to commissioning the new plant."

The expansion, the first of two stages will be built by the Ahrens Group, a South Australian based and nationally established industrial construction company who will use local subcontractors where possible so local companies benefit from the project.

The processing plant is being built by export hay industry specialists, Schutz Industries.


"Schutz Industries have built many plants around Australia for the export industry and are leaders in this field. We are working closely with them to utilise the latest technology for efficiency and safety in our factory," Mr Johnson said.

Mr Johnson said he would like to thank all of our staff, loyal growers and suppliers who had helped get the company to where it was today and looking forward to an exciting future.


https://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/7346955/more-jobs-on-the-horizon-as-new-factory-built-at-dooen/
  Richard stroker Train Controller

The new factory doesn't mean anything for rail , they switched road a while ago because rail was to expensive, just a new factory that's all
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Why is rail more expensive than road to Dooen?  Issues at Dooen or issues at the Port?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Why is rail more expensive than road to Dooen?  Issues at Dooen or issues at the Port?
james.au

Exactly it makes no sense to me at all.
  Richard stroker Train Controller

I don't know why James , there was a post on here a couple of months back that a big grain exporter up that way went to road . Qube is the one picking up the work on their trucks .BS might know some more
  Richard stroker Train Controller

It doesn't need to make cents bevans, it's about saving dollars , as posted on here previously, it's a lot of money being saved on road
  8502 Chief Train Controller

It doesn't need to make cents bevans, it's about saving dollars , as posted on here previously, it's a lot of money being saved on road
Richard stroker

If it costs x for a container to go from a to b then how can it not be cheaper to move 50x containers from a to b using a train?
  Djebel Train Controller

It doesn't need to make cents bevans, it's about saving dollars , as posted on here previously, it's a lot of money being saved on road

If it costs x for a container to go from a to b then how can it not be cheaper to move 50x containers from a to b using a train?
8502
I'm guessing that the fees charged to the rail company to access the line is sufficiently high compared with truck rego to render rail uneconomical.  I can't see fuel costs being the problem.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

It doesn't need to make cents bevans, it's about saving dollars , as posted on here previously, it's a lot of money being saved on road

If it costs x for a container to go from a to b then how can it not be cheaper to move 50x containers from a to b using a train?
I'm guessing that the fees charged to the rail company to access the line is sufficiently high compared with truck rego to render rail uneconomical.  I can't see fuel costs being the problem.
Djebel
The answer is with B doubles it is cheaper to move standard 40 foot TEU by train.  BUT the State Government in its wisdom to get more freight on rail, so it keeps expanding and upgrading the regional road network adding 3000 additional route kms recently as available to A Doubles.  An A double can load 2 x 40 foot standard TEU for the first time and they can do most trips cheaper than rail as a result.
In reality the Victorian Government does NOT have a Victorian Freight Plan but it certainly does have a ROAD Freight Plan.
The general public wants to see more freight on rail - NOT more freight on Road trains.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
It doesn't need to make cents bevans, it's about saving dollars , as posted on here previously, it's a lot of money being saved on road

If it costs x for a container to go from a to b then how can it not be cheaper to move 50x containers from a to b using a train?
I'm guessing that the fees charged to the rail company to access the line is sufficiently high compared with truck rego to render rail uneconomical.  I can't see fuel costs being the problem.
The answer is with B doubles it is cheaper to move standard 40 foot TEU by train.  BUT the State Government in its wisdom to get more freight on rail, so it keeps expanding and upgrading the regional road network adding 3000 additional route kms recently as available to A Doubles.  An A double can load 2 x 40 foot standard TEU for the first time and they can do most trips cheaper than rail as a result.
In reality the Victorian Government does NOT have a Victorian Freight Plan but it certainly does have a ROAD Freight Plan.
The general public wants to see more freight on rail - NOT more freight on Road trains.
kuldalai
Two x 40 foot boxes nicely fill an A double but only two-thirds of a standard 63 foot container flat.
There are relatively few 80 foot jumbo flats in 'local' container traffic and, even if there were, many would be over weight loaded with two x 40 foot boxes.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
I don't know why James , there was a post on here a couple of months back that a big grain exporter up that way went to road . Qube is the one picking up the work on their trucks .BS might know some more
Richard stroker
Well thanks Dick, a half educated guess perhaps.

You have to remember an A-Double doubles your carrying capacity with bugger all extra costs.. it's probably not that simple but..

So you are carting 2 containers more or less for what it would cost to cart 1, so your train would have to cut their costs by half to be in the same race.

I'm no accountant or rocket scientist number cruncher but it probably goes something like..

Just for numbers we will say it costs $100 to take the container to Port and it costs us $30, we have the A-Double so we can take 2 containers, your a good customer, we can do the 2nd container for $75 and it costs us $10 because it's only the trailer we're towing.

Both winning here and rail looses out again.

Obviously to have your truck as A-Double registered and no doubt there's plenty of other charges involved but you can see what happens with more productivity and heaps more efficiency.

I've said this a hundred times, when Johnson's decided to truck their hay containers to Port, Qube picked up the contract. They were already carting containers from Bordertown and the occasional container for Johnsons but having the contract allowed them do the same trip with the B-Double and take 2 containers with 1 truck. When the A-Double were allowed this gave them an even broader weight range to shift 2 containers at once. Have I made any head way here ?

BigShunter.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
This is from the container incentive scheme thread, the people running the business clearly say the A-Double's competitive rates have under cut any advantage rail had.. Rolling Eyes

This article adds to the reason of the increase in HPFV's with the reduction in $$ per container to be transported. I would not be at all surprised if the trucking lobby has been sitting on the fence watching the fiasco with the current rail system and the balls up for pathing of broad / standard gauge trains, a huge harvest to shift, they know the Gov't is on the canvas with volumes to shift to port and bang they scoop the win with bigger trucks and more roads opening to their use.

https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7313959/rail-to-road-m...

Wimmera Grain Company general manager Chris O'Bryan, Rupanyup, said his company had decided to move back to road, from the next financial year.

On average the company was sending about 35,000 tonnes, or 1300 containers, of pulses by rail to Melbourne each year.

"It was primarily for efficiencies, and weight gains, within the containers - road couldn't handle those capacities," Mr O'Bryan said.

But he said that had all changed with the introduction of A-doubles.

"We have a business to run, so the cost benefit is significant," he said.


Blue Lake Milling, Dimboola, moved away from rail two years ago

It now moves between 350 and 400 containers a year, mainly 40 foot boxes, by road to the Port of Melbourne.

Cereal grains, including oats, used to go through the WCL terminal, at Dooen, near Horsham.


"Since the government incentives were reduced it made rail freight somewhat uncompetitive, compared with road freight," Blue Lake Logistics manager Georgia Cadzow said.

Ms Cadzow said the switch had nothing to do with WCL, which had provided an excellent service.

Blue Lake would only go back to rail if it was cheaper.

"It's a massive cost factor and businesses with low margins need to look at saving money, wherever they can," she said.

"Freight is a huge component of our costs."


Perhaps Melissa Horne wants people to use Mode Shifting scheme gear the thing that gives companies an decent incentive to do so !

Once again trucks getting bigger heavier and longer and trains are still operating like they were 40 years ago Idea

BigShunter.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
All quiet correct except for mentioning that most grain which is the bulk of containerised ag freight is in 20' containers. That's why there is a shortage of 40' container flats at the moment.

Putting grain is 40' containers is not efficient.

Hay of course is a different matter.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
All quiet correct except for mentioning that most grain which is the bulk of containerised ag freight is in 20' containers. That's why there is a shortage of 40' container flats at the moment.

Putting grain is 40' containers is not efficient.

Hay of course is a different matter.
bingley hall
Yeah thanks Bingley, I should have said the meat from Bordertown is a 20'( fairly sure ) and the hay 40' a lot of grains are in the 20' containers, 33tonne I think is the max containers weight ?

It's this flexibility with the different truck combinations that are making them so versatile at the expense of rail.

BigShunter.
  Richard stroker Train Controller

Thank you BS and BH for explaining so clearly. I'll give it a week before the usual repeat offenders ask why isn't more going by rail . Not hard to understand it has to do with money
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
I've got BS, Dickie Stroker, took a while to figure out BH wasn't Broken Hill, YM and I were nearly in trouble

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