New V/Line face masks featuring Aboriginal artist Dixon Patten’s original artwork

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Check out V/Line new face masks featuring Aboriginal artist Dixon Patten’s original artwork, Garra mugudjina.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I think it would be nice to see more aboriginal artwork on the side of V/Line trains.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
More spin and cosmetics.
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

I think it would be nice to see more aboriginal artwork on the side of V/Line trains.
bevans
If they're going to spend money on artwork that would be better than putting it on things that end up in the bin after a few uses.
  1771D Train Controller

Nothing but corporate virtue signalling.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Spend the damn money where it matters FFS. What's next; indigenous names for all stations? Or are we going to do away with  Chelsea because it's gender specific, and change Batman to Batperson whilst we're at it? There exists a devilish ingenuity for spending our money on things we don't need. . . and don't start me on Southern Cross.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Spend the damn money where it matters FFS. What's next; indigenous names for all stations? Or are we going to do away with  Chelsea because it's gender specific, and change Batman to Batperson whilst we're at it? There exists a devilish ingenuity for spending our money on things we don't need. . . and don't start me on Southern Cross.
Valvegear
Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!
"Dangersdan707"

Public transport is not about artwork any more than the National Gallery is about transport. I want my transport taxes spent on transport. I am happy to have another proportion of my tax go into art.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!

Public transport is not about artwork any more than the National Gallery is about transport. I want my transport taxes spent on transport. I am happy to have another proportion of my tax go into art.
Valvegear
We have a long history of doing stuff like this in our transport department. Public art is always a blessing (bar tagging ofc), and has been part of the transport network here for years and years and will continue to be part of it. It breaks up the monotony of it all. A few of the HCMT's are also getting an art treatment, similar style to the V/line one pictured above. They have both been intertwined with one another for years and years.

Prime examples from years by below.



  Andrewdr Locomotive Driver

Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!

Public transport is not about artwork any more than the National Gallery is about transport. I want my transport taxes spent on transport. I am happy to have another proportion of my tax go into art.
We have a long history of doing stuff like this in our transport department. Public art is always a blessing (bar tagging ofc), and has been part of the transport network here for years and years and will continue to be part of it. It breaks up the monotony of it all. A few of the HCMT's are also getting an art treatment, similar style to the V/line one pictured above. They have both been intertwined with one another for years and years.

Prime examples from years by below.

I agree.
The Scandinavian artwork at every underground station in Stockholm is both magnificent and memorable and that is but one example.
Countries and cities that are proud of their diverse history and heritage (particularly but not only in Europe) often use public art as a means of increasing awareness and support for the common good, eg France.


Dangersdan707
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
DD,

Your first example turned out as a black rectangle but that is not unusual for me with pics on RP. The mural at Spencer Street turned out OK.

The mural at Spencer Street was purely a piece of historic artwork representing many years of the development of various modes of transport in Victoria. As such, it was purely a visual representation without political spin or other social agenda of any type. This is perhaps why it has not survived.

It is the function of the Victorian Government (I hesitate to give them a capital 'G'), PTV, Vline, Metro et al to provide efficient, punctual, reliable, clean, convenient and cost effective public transport for the entire community rather than to engage in social engineering, politically correct causes and other issues not directly associated with what should be their sole purposes.

This is yet another distraction from what Vline should be doing and as Sir Humphrey would have said:

'it is activity as a substitute for achievement'.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!

Public transport is not about artwork any more than the National Gallery is about transport. I want my transport taxes spent on transport. I am happy to have another proportion of my tax go into art.
We have a long history of doing stuff like this in our transport department. Public art is always a blessing (bar tagging ofc), and has been part of the transport network here for years and years and will continue to be part of it. It breaks up the monotony of it all. A few of the HCMT's are also getting an art treatment, similar style to the V/line one pictured above. They have both been intertwined with one another for years and years.

Prime examples from years by below.

I agree.
The Scandinavian artwork at every underground station in Stockholm is both magnificent and memorable and that is but one example.
Countries and cities that are proud of their diverse history and heritage (particularly but not only in Europe) often use public art as a means of increasing awareness and support for the common good, eg France.


Andrewdr
maybe edit that one a bit buddy! the formatting is a bit off.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Spend the damn money where it matters FFS. What's next; indigenous names for all stations? Or are we going to do away with  Chelsea because it's gender specific, and change Batman to Batperson whilst we're at it? There exists a devilish ingenuity for spending our money on things we don't need. . . and don't start me on Southern Cross.
Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!
Dangersdan707
Yet more cosmetic engineering.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Spend the damn money where it matters FFS. What's next; indigenous names for all stations? Or are we going to do away with  Chelsea because it's gender specific, and change Batman to Batperson whilst we're at it? There exists a devilish ingenuity for spending our money on things we don't need. . . and don't start me on Southern Cross.
Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!
Yet more cosmetic engineering.
YM-Mundrabilla
Having part of your city being named after someone who committed genocide is a very bad look indeed.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
DD,

Your first example turned out as a black rectangle but that is not unusual for me with pics on RP. The mural at Spencer Street turned out OK.

The mural at Spencer Street was purely a piece of historic artwork representing many years of the development of various modes of transport in Victoria. As such, it was purely a visual representation without political spin or other social agenda of any type. This is perhaps why it has not survived.

It is the function of the Victorian Government (I hesitate to give them a capital 'G'), PTV, Vline Metro et al to provide efficient, punctual, reliable, clean, convenient and cost effective public transport for the entire community rather than to engage in social engineering, politically correct causes and other issues not directly associated with what should be their sole purposes.

This is yet another distraction from what Vline should be doing and as Sir Humphrey would have said:

'it is activity as a substitute for achievement'.
YM-Mundrabilla
My apologies for getting back to you so late comrade.
The black rectangle (not a soviet constructivist artwork) was one of the various art trams of years gone by (Reffer to the link below this), along with the pic posted by me. Interested to know If you think that is blasphemous.

https://www.hawthorntramdepot.org.au/papers/transportingart.htm

The mural at Spencers street is still around, however stuck in a DFO in the Spencers street shopping centre. Pretty sad really. The most prominent one still publicly visible would have be the mural at Melbourne central. (link below to the full artwork)

http://vhd.heritage.vic.gov.au/search/nattrust_result_detail/65289

I Highly doubt these beatification projects detract at all from their operational aspects! Public art has been a feature of transport networks here and around the world for Years and years and it will continue to be so. Systems around the world have plenty of public art works, ie New York, London Paris, Toronto, ect. All much bigger than us! The recent level crossing removals have also been doing this too, on what would otherwise be dull concrete, the metro tunnel will also feature a fair bit of public art yet to be decided on what though. They do not have to be relevant to what the facility actually is, be it an overpass, station or piece of rolling stock.

All art inherently is some sort of social commentary of critique, despite white Greenberg and his followers would claim. Art being included in public Transport networks is just part of the modern world and is for the better. And no, I highly doubt it undermines their core operational mission, just something that most public institutions are required to do to assist the ailing arts sector. Just because it is an aboriginal design, does not mean it is some cultural marxist virtue signalling to undermine western civilisation. It is there for aesthetics, and public appreciation and benefit, nothing more.
  BaysideManny Assistant Commissioner

Spend the damn money where it matters FFS. What's next; indigenous names for all stations? Or are we going to do away with  Chelsea because it's gender specific, and change Batman to Batperson whilst we're at it? There exists a devilish ingenuity for spending our money on things we don't need. . . and don't start me on Southern Cross.
Batman being renamed is actually more likely than you think, due in part to his role in the genocide in Tasmania. As for the artwork, I think it looks very nice and we need more of it!
Yet more cosmetic engineering.
Having part of your city being named after someone who committed genocide is a very bad look indeed.
Dangersdan707
I am in total agreement with that statement.

Mannie
  steve195 Train Controller

I can't believe these pinko commie virtue signalling woke liberals at Vline have spent money on putting artwork on a train. When will this social engineering stop!
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I can't believe these pinko commie virtue signalling woke liberals at Vline have spent money on putting artwork on a train. When will this social engineering stop!
steve195
Lol, I think YM and 1771D just ate the onion with that one.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
I suppose some of you lot grumble to yourselves every time an "Art tram" trundles by.

There is nothing wrong with tarting up the same old boring carriages with a bit of nice art and supporting local artists in the process, I know I would rather see some artwork on the side of a train instead of another ad for a major bank or insurance company.

The inherent flaws in the rail network, caused mostly by a culture of poor investment in maintenance regimes developing over the past 30 years, is unrelated to the promotion of some local artists.

We should be able to chew gum and walk at the same time.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
I have no objection providing the artwork is free.
It doesn't cost anything to walk and chew gum simultaneously. The fewer distractions V/Line has, the better.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I have no objection providing the artwork is free.
It doesn't cost anything to walk and chew gum simultaneously. The fewer distractions V/Line has, the better.
Valvegear
Nothing in Victoria is free.
Not even the population ................................ Crying or Very sad
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I have no objection providing the artwork is free.
It doesn't cost anything to walk and chew gum simultaneously. The fewer distractions V/Line has, the better.
Valvegear
Thinking an artwork is the the cause of the networks degradation and somewhat run down nature sure is one of the most bizarre opinions I have ever encountered on this Site.

Quite the reversal of your previous statement of it being a crusade by the politically correct in a culture war and spending money on things "Not needed". Of course the artwork is not free, any who who creates gets some form of royalty for its use, that's just how the industry works.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I suppose some of you lot grumble to yourselves every time an "Art tram" trundles by.

There is nothing wrong with tarting up the same old boring carriages with a bit of nice art and supporting local artists in the process, I know I would rather see some artwork on the side of a train instead of another ad for a major bank or insurance company.

The inherent flaws in the rail network, caused mostly by a culture of poor investment in maintenance regimes developing over the past 30 years, is unrelated to the promotion of some local artists.

We should be able to chew gum and walk at the same time.
Gman_86
But art bad! Why paint thing in funny expressive colour rather than normal livery? It's a government conspiracy, pinko cultural marxists eroding white "culture" ect, ect.

A non existent harmless thing blown out of proportion into part of some culture war by some overly anarchistic posters and a scapegoat for some of our networks many flaws.

If you don't personally like a piece of art or design that is fine, there's no need to scapegoat something as "politically correct" just because a artwork reflects a certain cultural background. Zzzz, People have too much time on their hands these days.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
I repeat, the fewer distractions V/Line has, the better. It's collective record isn't all that flash, and money spent on art rather than transport is a distraction. There will be V/Line people being paid to dedicate their time to art. No! Run trains efficiently by spending your money sensibly.
There are other places and departments whose job it is to look after the arts; let them do it and get V/Line to quit posing. Concentrate on your business V/Line - it's called running trains.
What are we going to have next - Metro paying for sculptures on platforms?

Contrary to what some people seem to think, I am not anti art. I do, however, prefer it looked after by dedicated experts and not messed with by organisations that are funded by us to do a specialised job as efficiently as possible.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Thinking an artwork is the the cause of the networks degradation and somewhat run down nature sure is one of the most bizarre opinions I have ever encountered on this Site.
Dangersdan707
And that is one of more bizarre criticisms I have ever encountered. The idea that artwork has caused any failings is just crazy.
The comment was ( and remains) that anything which is not transport related is a potential or real distraction for V/Line whose job is to run trains. It's that simple. Got it?

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