Spencer St. Station - renaming?

 
  Torykins Chillaxis of Evil

Location: Scum Albans
I know that Spencer Street Station is going to be renamed Southern Cross Station.. but wasn't it meant to be called Federation Station? And just out of curiosity, who here supports the name change? I sure don't Sad Spencer Street sounds fine.

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  tayser Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
how many threads do we have to have like this?

40?
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

I know that Spencer Street Station is going to be renamed Southern Cross Station.. but wasn't it meant to be called Federation Station? And just out of curiosity, who here supports the name change? I sure don't Sad Spencer Street sounds fine.
"Torykins"
I thought Federation Station was going to be the new name of Flinders Street, but was later dropped.
  Aussie Steve Deputy Commissioner

NO! It was NEVER going to be called Federation Station!
  Edith Chief Commissioner

Location: Line 1 from Porte de Vincennes bound for Bastille station
I know that Spencer Street Station is going to be renamed Southern Cross Station.. but wasn't it meant to be called Federation Station? And just out of curiosity, who here supports the name change? I sure don't Sad Spencer Street sounds fine.
"Torykins"


I do not mind what they call it, as long as there is a good quality PT service operating there.  "Southern Cross" - gee, Kennett would have named it "Melbourne Station" just as everything got that moniker in his time.  But if SSS became Melbourne, what would you call FSS ?
  Nexas The Ghost of George Stephenson

But if SSS became Melbourne, what would you call FSS ?
"Edith"


I'd call Flinders Street, Flinders Street. Spencer Street is the true Melbourne station in Melbourne.

For the millionth time, I am against the name "Southern Cross Station", just as I am against the renaming of the Ballarat line to the "Eureka Line" which will happen on the same day.
  MelbourneCity Chief Commissioner

The renaming of both the Ballarat line and Spencer Street is a load of crap.
Spencer Street is recognised by Victorians as the gateway to the city from the provinces. (Thought I'd use a less-common term).
The Eureka line is a trashy gimmick that sounds like a try hard person trying to impress American and Japanese tourists.
While their at it, give the conductors mining outfits and paint the Southern Cross flag all over the trains.
  Ron_D Chief Commissioner

The renaming of both the Ballarat line and Spencer Street is a load of crap.
"MelbourneCity"
In an official leaflet, it states Spencer St station to be renamed Southern Cross Station. Although I like the name Southern Cross, Spencer St station should remain Spencer St.

With the present name, you knwo exactly where it is. Spencer St ID's it where it is more. Also when they first named Museum station "Melbourne Central", I thought they renamed Spencer or Flinders St. From outsiders Melbourne Central sounds like either Spencer or Flinders Sts, it should of remained Museum.

Besides, wasn't Spencer St named after somebody?

Perhaps we should rename Martin Place, Sydney Central & Sydney Central, Surrey Hills!
  MelbourneCity Chief Commissioner

I know the renaming is happening - It is a load of crap IMO. The idea is CRAP.

Spencer Street is synomonous (sp?) with transport in Melbourne. Southern Cross could be anywhere!

If it aint broke, dont fix it!
  Jono Chief Train Controller

Location: Mentone, Victoria
I have to agree with everyone here, Spencer Street is a fine name it doesnt need to be changed to some crap hardly anyone likes. And the renaming of museum to melb central was definatley not a good idea, ive had friends from sydney come down and asked the station assistant(at flinders) how to get to Melbourne Central because they wanted to get the frankston line, they told me the guy looked dumbfounded and stood there confused for 20 seconds. Museum was fine and Spencer St is fine IMO niether needed to be changed.

Cheers

Jono 8)
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
"Southern Cross" in Melbourne is at the corner of Bourke and Exhibition Sts, almost as far from SSS as you can get in the CBD.  This name arises from the (now much altered and mostly demolished) Southern Cross building on that site.  Imagine the confusion if people try to catch a train there!

Within reason I approve of marketing names applied to rail lines (or coach / bus lines for that matter).  Eureka has a defineable connection to the Ballarat line even if commuters to Melton and Bacchus Marsh may not agree.  Do I hear cries of dissent over the naming of our major roads such as Goulburn Valley Highway or Grand Ridge Road?  So why not Eureka Line?

I personally prefer retaining Spencer Street as the name for the station, but remember it hasn't always been called that.  It was originally Batman's Hill, changed to Spencer St around 1915 IIRC.
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere

Museum was fine and Spencer St is fine IMO niether needed to be changed.

Museum had to be changed as the Museum of Victoria moved to its new location in Carlton, and Melbourne Central Station was chosen because the station sits below Melbourne Central shopping centre, not because it is a station central to Melbourne.  Note that the station name signs all show "Melbourne Central Station", a most uncommon use of the word "station" in the actual name.
  18A Chief Commissioner

Location: On the tramway
how many threads do we have to have like this?

40?
"tayser"
Well done tayser

Now go find one of the other threads! Twisted Evil
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
Maybe they could raise a bit of cash by selling the "naming rights" for all the major stations in the CBD to various corporations.
Then you could have, for example, the AAMI Transportation Centre and the Optus Transit Interchange.

Wouldn't that make you puke!!
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere

AAMI Transportation Centre and the Optus Transit Interchange

We're already blessed with Optus Oval and Testra Dome, to name but two. Razz  London seriously considered selling naming rights to underground stations but was stopped by public protest and their regulator, TfL.
  kota16 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide SA
Actually, all this controversy about a name change has got people talking about the place. I have always thought that Melbourne should have been called Eureka, (it sounds European) and boomed during the Gold Rush of the 1850's.
  sopscars Chief Train Controller

Location: Sunbury Victoria
Ok MFS (Melbourne Flinders St) and MSS (Melbourne Spencer St) both have M in front to represent that both stations are in the city of Melbourne. MSS is more used for Country and Interstate Services and while MFS is more as the major terminus for Suburbian passenger services. These names MFS and MSS have been used by the railways for a long time and this was way after Spencer St station had it's name changed as before that Spencer St Station was known as Batman Hill.

I don't like the idea of Spencer St Station being renamed as Southern Cross Station and where in the world does Melbourne have to do with the Southern Cross? it's like hey look I am at Watergardens but there no such suburb called Watergardens on Sydenham and the Watergardens Shopping Centre.

I would always refer Spencer St Station as MSS and Flinders St Station as MFS, just as the friends who I worked with when I was a teenage kid. doing work experience at V/Line Pass in May-June 1994. Damn Jeff for closing down certain passenger line services at the time.
  sopscars Chief Train Controller

Location: Sunbury Victoria
Eureka was a station near Ballaarat.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
IMHO Spencer Street should remain as is, and any other propoesed name change is an affront not only to the history of the location, but also to logic as well. There is absloluely no connection with the railway station and the proposed name Southern Cross unless one has a very vivid imagination.
  sopscars Chief Train Controller

Location: Sunbury Victoria
I think that someone did have a very vivid imagination to rename Spencer St Station to Southern Cross Station.
  Nexas The Ghost of George Stephenson

Ok MFS (Melbourne Flinders St) and MSS (Melbourne Spencer St) both have M in front to represent that both stations are in the city of Melbourne. MSS is more used for Country and Interstate Services and while MFS is more as the major terminus for Suburbian passenger services. These names MFS and MSS have been used by the railways for a long time and this was way after Spencer St station had it's name changed as before that Spencer St Station was known as Batman Hill.
"sopscars"


Those are the codes used by V/Line, and they are just codes. The stations are still named Spencer Street and Flinders Street.

Most of the time if someone refers to those stations by code it will be 'SSS' and 'FSS'.
  sopscars Chief Train Controller

Location: Sunbury Victoria
Those are the codes used by V/Line, and they are just codes. The stations are still named Spencer Street and Flinders Street.
that is not fully correct cause interstate travel these codes are used to define which station. Especially with internal mail. it's like saying Sunbury is SBY, Bendigo is BXG it is well used in most railways. It's only a gunzel who don't use the railway terms and codes correctly, even tho you might know what the other is referring to.

I had a whole list of Victorian Railway Station and Bus Destination codes and this was used by the luggage hall to make sure that all luggage was sent to the right place on the right time, but also used in S circulars as well.

But getting to the point the renaming of Spencer St to Southern Cross is not a good move.
  Suburban_Soldier Chief Commissioner

Location: Grey Ghost
to add my two cents: the renaming of spencer street is pointless to say the least but will it change the station in any way? hardly. with the ballarat renaming it'll be like saying: "hey bob im going to eureka on vline, seeya monday" but when poor john gets to ballarat and finds out there isn't a place called eureka he decides to bomb ballarat to pieces(only joking) just to finish i don't really care what the renamings are as spencer street will always be spencer street and the ballarat line will always be and be known by the name of the ballarat line
  Flagstaff Red Afro

Location: Eaglemont, Hursty line, Melbourne.
I originally thought renaming Spencer St was stupid, but if the renovation is good enough and the entire station is Air-conditioned during summer I don't mind them renaming, infact I recommend they change it to Southern Cross.
I'm not sure exactly what calling the line to Ballarat Eureka will do, Ballarat will still be Ballarat and I don't think there are names for the other rural lines.
  sopscars Chief Train Controller

Location: Sunbury Victoria
looking at a map, going from Ballaarat to Melbourne as you past Ballaarat East there was a right turn to go towards Buninyong, the next stop after Ballaarat East was Eureka.

So I don't think Ballaarat would be renamed nor should Spencer St should be renamed as Southern Cross

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