The corona virus COVID-19

 
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

No, wrong. The NSW outbreak, widely agreed to be the introduction of Delta to Australia, came about from an unmasked, unvaccinated Limousine driver carrying an American FedEx Aircrew to quarantine.
I knew it came from an unmasked chauffer and I'm not surprised the chauffer was unvaccinated.That he was unmasked is effectively irrelevant, I don't think the mask would have helped him. Of course he was not vaccinated, no one should be surprised by that, Pfizer wasn't approved for use in the driver's demographic then - even if he wanted the vaccine he wouldn't have qualified for it.
Aaron
Also last I read, masks while prividing some minor level of protection for the wearing are primarly to protect others, ie why Surgeons wear masks and patients ungoing surgery don't.

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  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA

No, wrong. The NSW outbreak, widely agreed to be the introduction of Delta to Australia, came about from an unmasked, unvaccinated Limousine driver carrying an American FedEx Aircrew to quarantine.
I knew it came from an unmasked chauffer and I'm not surprised the chauffer was unvaccinated.That he was unmasked is effectively irrelevant, I don't think the mask would have helped him. Of course he was not vaccinated, no one should be surprised by that, Pfizer wasn't approved for use in the driver's demographic then - even if he wanted the vaccine he wouldn't have qualified for it.Also last I read, masks while prividing some minor level of protection for the wearing are primarly to protect others, ie why Surgeons wear masks and patients ungoing surgery don't.
RTT_Rules
Exactly, I see I left the sentence about who benefits from the wearing of masks out. Primarily they are for the protection of others, not the wearer - though surgeons are well advised to wear them for themselves too, given they risk ingesting bodily fluids from patients.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
That he was unmasked is effectively irrelevant, I don't think the mask would have helped him. Of course he was not vaccinated, no one should be surprised by that, Pfizer wasn't approved for use in the driver's demographic then - even if he wanted the vaccine he wouldn't have qualified for it.
Aaron
Maybe an N95 mask would have helped.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
No, probably not.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NSW has sadly seen its worst day of the pandemic with nine further deaths, including a man in his 30s, as the state recorded 1,542 new local cases. Positively, the Premier says more than 43 per cent of the state is now fully vaccinated.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

NSW has sadly seen its worst day of the pandemic with nine further deaths, including a man in his 30s, as the state recorded 1,542 new local cases. Positively, the Premier says more than 43 per cent of the state is now fully vaccinated.
bevans
And canceling daily pressers from Sunday, just prior to the expected peak. When the going gets tough,,,,,
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Believe? I prefer knowing.

Pfizer BioNTech vaccine entered approved use after publishing of phase three trial data on December 20 last year, that's many more months ago (8, count them, it's nearly 9) than less than 1.

Am I serious? You're damn right I am! It's basic countable math, my six year old niece could school you on this.
Aaron
History is littered with drugs that epidemiology didn't identify as deadly with certain cohorts until years after the event. Nothing to do with maths - everything to do with the fact that EVERY new drug has problems.

Again with the rank arrogance - "My six year old niece..."

Nothing to do with your six year old niece and everything to do with the fact that comprehensive testing doesn't take "months".
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
YEs Don, everything you post is your guess, because it certainly not remotely close to fact.

Pfizer - 18mths over 1B doses to date expect 2B by end of year. Thats 1B peoples worth of data and srunitised by over 100 countries and other jursiticions. Being copied by the Chinese. Yeah, its soooo bad. Moderna similar.

Other CV vaccines such as Chinese based on 50 year old technology. Yeah, thats sooooo bad.


Meanwhile, Don with a PHD in Googling BS is saying an animal worming drug not approved for use in any justistication in the world as a means of treating CV-19 is a safer bet while the tax payer is funding your ar$e slower sufficating in an ICU to the tune of $2670/d just for the bed!

This is the level of reseatch into using Ivemectin for CV, a Monkey's kidney cell!

Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an [color=#0645ad][size=2][font=sans-serif]IC[sub][size=1]50[/size][/sub][/font][/size][/color] of 2.2–2.8 μM

You would be better off taking forsythia.
RTT_Rules
Your English expression is appalling - I can't make any sense of what you've written there.

In addition to the fact that you've left this forum for good. Remember?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
NSW has sadly seen its worst day of the pandemic with nine further deaths, including a man in his 30s, as the state recorded 1,542 new local cases. Positively, the Premier says more than 43 per cent of the state is now fully vaccinated.
bevans
Not the worst week by any means.

NSW has to date had nearly double the cases of Vic in total, yet only 1/4 of the deaths and one would assume this is as a result of the vaccine roll out and other measures taken to protect those most at risk. If I recall during the major outbreak in Vic, there were still govt reluctance to force vaccination by aged care workers.

UAE cases numbers have recently started to tumble from 1000 - 1300 / d to around 700 -800 on the back of pushing 80% double dose with mostly pfizer with daily deaths around 1-3 /d. So moving into 2022 with still signficant vaccine hesitancy and with the older portion of the population in Aus, post Jan 2022 with the country fully open will see around 5 - 20 deaths per day.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

No, wrong. The NSW outbreak, widely agreed to be the introduction of Delta to Australia, came about from an unmasked, unvaccinated Limousine driver carrying an American FedEx Aircrew to quarantine.
I knew it came from an unmasked chauffer and I'm not surprised the chauffer was unvaccinated.That he was unmasked is effectively irrelevant, I don't think the mask would have helped him. Of course he was not vaccinated, no one should be surprised by that, Pfizer wasn't approved for use in the driver's demographic then - even if he wanted the vaccine he wouldn't have qualified for it.Also last I read, masks while prividing some minor level of protection for the wearing are primarly to protect others, ie why Surgeons wear masks and patients ungoing surgery don't.Exactly, I see I left the sentence about who benefits from the wearing of masks out. Primarily they are for the protection of others, not the wearer - though surgeons are well advised to wear them for themselves too, given they risk ingesting bodily fluids from patients.
yeah well I was thinking more aerosol type stuff over an artery shooting into the surgens mouth. Very Happy The plastic visor/face shield now used in surgery to protect the eyes was brought in following AIDS.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Gladys has announced that there will be no more 11:00 am press conferences after Sunday. As Baldrick said, "When the going gets tough, the tough hide under the table."
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
YEs Don, everything you post is your guess, because it certainly not remotely close to fact.

Pfizer - 18mths over 1B doses to date expect 2B by end of year. Thats 1B peoples worth of data and scrunitised by over 100 countries and other jurisdictions and being copied by the Chinese. Yeah, its soooo bad. Moderna similar.

Other CV vaccines such as Chinese based on 50 year old technology. Yeah, thats sooooo bad.


Meanwhile, Don with a PhD in Googling bull $hit is saying that an animal worming drug not approved for use in any  jurisdiction in the world as a means of treating CV-19 is a safer bet while the tax payer is funding your ar$e slowly sufficating in an ICU bed to the tune of $2670/d just for the bed!

This is the level of reseach into using Ivemectin for CV, a Monkey's kidney cell!

Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an [color=#0645ad][size=2][font=sans-serif]IC[sub][size=1]50[/size][/sub][/font][/size][/color] of 2.2–2.8 μM

You would be better off taking forsythia.
Your English expression is appalling - I can't make any sense of what you've written there.

In addition to the fact that you've left this forum for good. Remember?
don_dunstan
You cannot make sense of what I wrote because you are the only person who can make sense out of using a worming drug to stop you dying over taking a proven anti vaccine drug.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
That he was unmasked is effectively irrelevant, I don't think the mask would have helped him. Of course he was not vaccinated, no one should be surprised by that, Pfizer wasn't approved for use in the driver's demographic then - even if he wanted the vaccine he wouldn't have qualified for it.
Maybe an N95 mask would have helped.
Myrtone
Who knows, you don't.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Gladys has announced that there will be no more 11:00 am press conferences after Sunday. As Baldrick said, "When the going gets tough, the tough hide under the table."
Valvegear
Unbelievable, being rather cynical, in  regards to to Gladys, I take it that the internal modelling, research or whatever they call it, means that the $hit is about to hit the fan.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
YEs Don, everything you post is your guess, because it certainly not remotely close to fact.

Pfizer - 18mths over 1B doses to date expect 2B by end of year. Thats 1B peoples worth of data and scrunitised by over 100 countries and other jurisdictions and being copied by the Chinese. Yeah, its soooo bad. Moderna similar.

Other CV vaccines such as Chinese based on 50 year old technology. Yeah, thats sooooo bad.


Meanwhile, Don with a PhD in Googling bull $hit is saying that an animal worming drug not approved for use in any  jurisdiction in the world as a means of treating CV-19 is a safer bet while the tax payer is funding your ar$e slowly sufficating in an ICU bed to the tune of $2670/d just for the bed!

This is the level of reseach into using Ivemectin for CV, a Monkey's kidney cell!

Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an [color=#0645ad][size=2][font=sans-serif]IC[sub][size=1]50[/size][/sub][/font][/size][/color] of 2.2–2.8 μM

You would be better off taking forsythia.
Your English expression is appalling - I can't make any sense of what you've written there.

In addition to the fact that you've left this forum for good. Remember?
You cannot make sense of what I wrote because you are the only person who can make sense out of using a worming drug to stop you dying over taking a proven anti vaccine drug.
RTT_Rules
I had no problem with understanding what Shane  was saying, even whilst still pondering Rhonda s legs
  doyle Chief Commissioner

I congratulate the NSW premier for a stirling job, well done premier.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I congratulate the NSW premier for a stirling job, well done premier.
"doyle"
As Mr McEnroe would say, "You cannot be serious". A classic case of too little, too late. It got away, and NSW is now suffering from the results of government inaction.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

No the whole country is/going to feel the ramifications of berejiklian' incompetence and now she abandoneds her own citizens, not having pressers probably only good time pressers they will be few

She has treated NSW and Australia with contempt
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Your English expression is appalling - I can't make any sense of what you've written there.

In addition to the fact that you've left this forum for good. Remember?
You cannot make sense of what I wrote because you are the only person who can make sense out of using a worming drug to stop you dying over taking a proven anti vaccine drug.
RTT_Rules
Again with the appalling English expression.

And where have I recommended that people should definitely take Ivermectin over the vaccines?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
No the whole country is/going to feel the ramifications of berejiklian' incompetence and now she abandoneds her own citizens, not having pressers probably only good time pressers they will be few

She has treated NSW and Australia with contempt
doyle
None of them know what they're doing - they stopped children playing in playgrounds in Victoria because they were worried that people were going to use it as an excuse to congregate in public. Too bad if you had little kids and lived in a flat, they would have been driving you up the wall... collective punishment.

And none of this hard-lockdown stuff has worked in Sydney or Melbourne this time around anyway.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

No the whole country is/going to feel the ramifications of berejiklian' incompetence and now she abandoneds her own citizens, not having pressers probably only good time pressers they will be few

She has treated NSW and Australia with contempt
None of them know what they're doing - they stopped children playing in playgrounds in Victoria because they were worried that people were going to use it as an excuse to congregate in public. Too bad if you had little kids and lived in a flat, they would have been driving you up the wall... collective punishment.

And none of this hard-lockdown stuff has worked in Sydney or Melbourne this time around anyway.
don_dunstan
Not worried that they would congregate...they were. On the weekend before the playground ban and curfew were reintroduced there was blatant contempt for the rules.

That said I still don't agree with the playground ban or outdoor mask wearing and am pretty annoyed at the curfew as well.

The fact that the lockdowns have NOT eliminated Delta is if anything more proof that they are currently needed to stop Delta from going totally out of control. It is just about buying time for the vaccination program now.

Again, what is the alternative?
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
No the whole country is/going to feel the ramifications of berejiklian' incompetence and now she abandoneds her own citizens, not having pressers probably only good time pressers they will be few

She has treated NSW and Australia with contempt
None of them know what they're doing - they stopped children playing in playgrounds in Victoria because they were worried that people were going to use it as an excuse to congregate in public. Too bad if you had little kids and lived in a flat, they would have been driving you up the wall... collective punishment.

And none of this hard-lockdown stuff has worked in Sydney or Melbourne this time around anyway.
Not worried that they would congregate...they were. On the weekend before the playground ban and curfew were reintroduced there was blatant contempt for the rules.

That said I still don't agree with the playground ban or outdoor mask wearing and am pretty annoyed at the curfew as well.

The fact that the lockdowns have NOT eliminated Delta is if anything more proof that they are currently needed to stop Delta from going totally out of control. It is just about buying time for the vaccination program now.

Again, what is the alternative?
Mr. Lane
And hospitals getting overwhelmed, and what's Don's alternative?, open her up and let it rip!!
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
I congratulate the NSW premier for a stirling job, well done premier.
As Mr McEnroe would say, "You cannot be serious". A classic case of too little, too late. It got away, and NSW is now suffering from the results of government inaction.
Valvegear
And Victoria
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Meanwhile, over in the US, COVID cases are going backwards, strongly.

The representative from SA's advocacy for the Murdoch loony right media and through that, Fox News has plumbed even lower depths, if that were possible where one of its poster boy presenters is advocating forged vaccination cards for those who don't want to get vaxxed.

This is beyond the pale and Murdoch MUST pay for this, but he won't of course. Fox News operates under his editorial direction and obviously Murdoch sees political and financial gain for the Republican party and their supporters...that is those who don't get sick and die due to exercising their 'choice' not to get vaccinated.

I want to be clear about this, the representative from SA strongly supports Murdoch and through the actions of that Billionaire idiot he's advocating to maintain the pandemic and ultimately by advocating choice, is seeing to the deaths of thousands of idiot Republican supporters.

Please watch this short video, it goes to the heart of the mainstream loony right media and why I continue to call it thus.



https://youtu.be/9_gvxRuSqeA

...and this where, due to the anti-vaccers and the loony right wing media, COVID rates are now up to three times as bad in the US as they were 12 months ago. Hence Pres. Biden's recent media conference regards this matter.



https://youtu.be/ckVVL9Jg38o

Mike.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Meanwhile, over in the US, COVID cases are going backwards, strongly.

The representative from SA's advocacy for the Murdoch loony right media and through that, Fox News has plumbed even lower depths, if that were possible where one of its poster boy presenters is advocating forged vaccination cards for those who don't want to get vaxxed.

This is beyond the pale and Murdoch MUST pay for this, but he won't of course. Fox News operates under his editorial direction and obviously Murdoch sees political and financial gain for the Republican party and their supporters...that is those who don't get sick and die due to exercising their 'choice' not to get vaccinated.

I want to be clear about this, the representative from SA strongly supports Murdoch and through the actions of that Billionaire idiot he's advocating to maintain the pandemic and ultimately by advocating choice, is seeing to the deaths of thousands of idiot Republican supporters.

Please watch this short video, it goes to the heart of the mainstream loony right media and why I continue to call it thus.



https://youtu.be/9_gvxRuSqeA

...and this where, due to the anti-vaccers and the loony right wing media, COVID rates are now up to three times as bad in the US as they were 12 months ago. Hence Pres. Biden's recent media conference regards this matter.



https://youtu.be/ckVVL9Jg38o

Mike.
The Vinelander
So let's get this straight, the act of buying a faked vaccine card is NOT a serious crime, it's an "act of desperation", but not a crime, Tucker has well and truly flipped his lid!!

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