Victorian Libs to remove advertising from Melbourne Trams

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Not sure about you guys think but I am so opposed to Afterpay and the grubby company called beforepay which is even worse.  Who invents a company that takes a persons pay before it gets to them?

The liberal party it seems will look to remove the advertising from Melbourne trams which has been according to some getting worse and worse.



I agree that it is not the governments role to promote these PAY companies at all.

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  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Where do I start?

First of all, this policy has nothing to do with AfterPay or BeforePay or any other advertising client who is currently advertising on Melbourne's trams. Whatever your thoughts of particular financial institutions are, it has nothing to do with Matthew Guy's proposal here. It may as well be an ad for Spec Savers or Uber Eats, the issue here is all over advertising on trams, not the company being advertised.

Next, with PT suffering from chronic under-funding thanks to both sides of politics, any revenue they can bring in to go towards their own viability is sureley a good thing? I personally don't like all over advertising, especially when it covers up the windows, but I would expect the ability to earn revenue via advertising would be an iron clad clause in the contract Yarra Trams has with the government. I don't see YT being in a hurry to slash their own revenue.

Also, enough already with blaming Dan for everything under the sun, all over advertising on trams in Melbourne have been a thing for decades. "Dan's dark trams" is a bit of an over-reach.

Finally, as usual with the political classes, particular the Liberal party, I note they completely ignore the backbone of the public transport sector. All over advertising on buses are just as much an issue as they are with trams, but as usual, the buses get ignored again.
  8502 Chief Train Controller

Totally if they want to retain advertising then they should have a committee to decide what advertising is not appropriate and would not be permitted.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

As I mentioned in other threads, hardly any rail transport in the world make a profit these days.  I actually don't mind them earning something extra.
  ilovecats Station Staff

Not sure about you guys think but I am so opposed to Afterpay and the grubby company called beforepay which is even worse.  Who invents a company that takes a persons pay before it gets to them?

The liberal party it seems will look to remove the advertising from Melbourne trams which has been according to some getting worse and worse.



I agree that it is not the governments role to promote these PAY companies at all.
bevans

There is no such policy, photo is a mock up by transport blogger on twitter who also did photo mock up for ALP too
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Victorian Liberals to be removed

One virus is enough!
  Obzerva Locomotive Fireman

Location: #6 / Glen Waverley line
I'm not sure the all over advertising is a huge issue, as others have mentioned, it's a source of revenue.

Currently just over 10% of trams have the all over advertising (62 out of 544 according to Vicsig) - if it was a much higher % then sure it may become an issue.

There's still over 80 trams still in the old Yarra trams livery yet to be put in to the PTV, any attempt to remove all over advertising would slow that process down too as it's adding more to the queue.

The only other issue I can see is that there is a bit of a concentration of all over advertising trams out of the Malvern depot, as that's where the D1's are and more than half of them are in advertising.

Willing to place a bet that the "clear window" policy doesn't include removing the "made in Melbourne" stickers off the E's, call me cynical.
  gunzel42 Junior Train Controller

Wasn't there a requirement under the last refranchise for tram advertising to be removed / not cover windows?
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
I'm surprised the window covering on trams and buses isn't illegal under VicRoads rules anyway. Wrap a car like that and it would be defected in an instant.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Not all the windows are covered. It depends on the model of tram as to which are left clear. On a B2-class, for example, the nearest door and window on the driver’s end left-hand side are left clear. There’s plenty of examples in VicSig’s photograph section. The driver’s view would probably be better than most trucks.

https://vicsig.net/photo/25061
Photo: Ian Green
  Griffinrails Official Locomotive Driver

Location: Dunno. (help i'm lost)
Compare these advert liveries with Sydney's light rail adverts. At least the Melbourne ones look SORT OF natural, the Sydney adverts are just JPEGs slapped onto the side.
How about the gomo mobile adverts on the Tangaras? They PURPOSEFULLY cover the windows with nothing but useless green or blue space.

The Libs will RUIN windows, folks.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Not sure about you guys think but I am so opposed to Afterpay and the grubby company called beforepay which is even worse.  Who invents a company that takes a persons pay before it gets to them?
bevans
It’s a form of short term credit so… a bank?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Not sure about you guys think but I am so opposed to Afterpay and the grubby company called beforepay which is even worse.  Who invents a company that takes a persons pay before it gets to them?

I agree that it is not the governments role to promote these PAY companies at all.
bevans
Before I get access to my money

1) Govt sticks their hand in
2) Bank then sticks their hand in
3) then I get to stick my hand in but simply to pay others

For a property we lease, all tenants who are welfare receiptants must sign a document that the bank their welfare payment goes to pays us immeediately automatically directly. If the Tennant cancels the automatic bank transfer without notification, the banks sends us a cancellation notice. The tenants lease conditions are voided and they are immediately issued notice of eviction. For this benefit we pay roughly a $1/fortnight to cover transaction costs. So yes, we take our money before they get to.

Should they be able to advertise on Tram's, if allowed on private property then allowed on trams.
  gunzel42 Junior Train Controller

How you manage your money is your problem.  Accountability for removing external advertising at least from windows is relevant to this forum, and the Government should be being questioned why they are not enforcing the franchise requirements?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
I look forward to continuing to see advertising on the trains and trams after the next election....

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