Adani changes to narrow gauge

 
  Expost Chief Commissioner

Of course, the whole "Save The Great Barrier Reef" argument by the greenies is a farce. Adani can only harvest water from the Suttor River during flood times. The Suttor River, for the uneducated, flows into Lake Dalrymple. Lake Dalrymple is the impoundment held back by, The Burdekin Dam. The Burdekin Dam, during times of flood, flows massively over the dam wall, flowing into the lower Burdekin River, and eventually, Upstart Bay, AND The GREAT BARRIER REEF, taking with it millions of toinnes of sediment.
The Greenies are very fond of bleating how the reef is suffering, how all that fresh water is killing coral and marine life. How sediment is smothering and killing vital corals.
By allowing Adain to harvest flood water from The Suttor River during times of flood, its actually HELPING to save the Great Barrier Reef from damage.

How ironic.
Is there a Scientific report I can read to back this up?
Dangersdan707
Do your own research, come up with your own conclusions. Research comes from reading about different matters. You then put 2 and 2 together.

If you disagree, then please state where, and how. All those facts are simply that, facts. Each adds to the last, to come to the final conclusion.

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  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
The simple fact is Glencore is currently moving to build the new Valeria thermal coal mine near Clermont (south of Carmichael) that will be double the production capacity of the Carmichael mine.

At Valeria there has been no protests, no high court challenges, no farmers running out of water, nothing...just a smooth development process unnoticed by anyone.
Sulla1
The difference is that they are probably complying with their environmental conditions and laws in general.  Not that Glencore is angelic and perfect but it has to perform more like a BHP than an Adani to keep its social license.
  Sunbird Locomotive Fireman



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9TuiJPAn_A

Martinus Rail has recently posted this video of the track construction works.
It may not be finished yet but the ballast trains show its now a functioning railway.
  8502 Chief Train Controller

The simple fact is Glencore is currently moving to build the new Valeria thermal coal mine near Clermont (south of Carmichael) that will be double the production capacity of the Carmichael mine.

At Valeria there has been no protests, no high court challenges, no farmers running out of water, nothing...just a smooth development process unnoticed by anyone.
The difference is that they are probably complying with their environmental conditions and laws in general.  Not that Glencore is angelic and perfect but it has to perform more like a BHP than an Adani to keep its social license.
james.au

Will this require any rail upgrades to accommodate the new volumes?

If there is not then rail is not really impacted and the public maybe do not see it as much?
  Expost Chief Commissioner



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9TuiJPAn_A

Martinus Rail has recently posted this video of the track construction works.
It may not be finished yet but the ballast trains show its now a functioning railway.
Sunbird
That video, and the progress being made, must be making the greenies heads spin. Yet another garbage attempt has been made in the last week, by a local greenie group, to claim that the environmental conditions are not being met, ie erosion run off is getting into streams and rivers.

The same claim, from earlier this year, was tossed out as frivelous and vexatious.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Bowen Rail has released a digital animation representation of its new "4600" class...appears to be an Australian GT46CU-ACe


https://fb.watch/7e0FF7KjA5/
  Expost Chief Commissioner

Bowen Rail has released a digital animation representation of its new "4600" class...appears to be an Australian GT46CU-ACe


https://fb.watch/7e0FF7KjA5/
Sulla1
Geez, I hope they didnt actually pay someone to produce that animation. Given the quality of whats available in this day and age, that was like watching an 8 bit game of Pong.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Bowen Rail has released a digital animation representation of its new "4600" class...appears to be an Australian GT46CU-ACe


https://fb.watch/7e0FF7KjA5/
Sulla1

They'll have real problems if that's what they expect the ride quality to be like!
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Lets just turn the old Conrail logo 90 degrees to the right shall we.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Bowen Rail's 4601 has broken cover somewhere in the world today...

https://www.facebook.com/100746072262729/posts/129606669376669/?sfnsn=mo
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Given the IPCC report released this week, this whole project will be a boondoggle.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

A local Bowen company is currently building Bowen Rail's stabling yard beside Aurizon's Kaili to Abbot Point Branch. Aurizon installed turnouts off the branch a few months ago.

https://www.bowenrail.com.au/news/bowen-rail-company-partners-with-hillery-group/
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Are these guys to use the new PRL class?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Is there a Scientific report I can read to back this up?
Do your own research, come up with your own conclusions. Research comes from reading about different matters. You then put 2 and 2 together.

If you disagree, then please state where, and how. All those facts are simply that, facts. Each adds to the last, to come to the final conclusion.
Expost

Typical redneck Deflection 101 Razz
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Bowen Rail is purchasing the 4600 class (no confirmation of model type), images are shown in previous posts.

The PRL class, while not confirmed, is most likely going to Qube's new contract on the Mt Isa line.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia


The PRL class, while not confirmed, is most likely going to Qube's new Mt Isa line contract.
Sulla1
https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2222928.htm#2222928
  Expost Chief Commissioner

Is there a Scientific report I can read to back this up?
Do your own research, come up with your own conclusions. Research comes from reading about different matters. You then put 2 and 2 together.

If you disagree, then please state where, and how. All those facts are simply that, facts. Each adds to the last, to come to the final conclusion.

Typical redneck Deflection 101 Razz
bingley hall
The invitation is still there.

If you disagree, then please state where, and how. All those facts are simply that, facts. Each adds to the last, to come to the final conclusion.

Grab an atlas, type into Wikipedia, search online for the evidence, there is plenty there, and tell me where I am wrong. I'll wait.
  GT46C-ACe Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
4600 class are apparently 'GT46CU-ACe Gen III (3)' hence the new look. If the drawing is anything to go by they appear to have the same inverter per traction motor setup as all GE ACs and later EMD -P6/T4 variants. I don't believe the Gen IIs (of which there are only the GWB trio) feature this and if the weight of the 4600s pushes the ~150t mark we could be about to see the most powerful narrow gauge diesel this country has ever had. Would expect 2+1 DPU operation similar to the electrics operating in the CQ network.
  EMBaldwin Chief Commissioner

Location: Amongst the Cane Fields
Would expect 2+1 DPU operation similar to the electrics operating in the CQ network.
GT46C-ACe
Until upgrades to the Newlands system allow it, no requirement for more than of their loco for an 84 wagon train.  Might be needed if they decide to split/make up bigger trains on their network.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Story on the ABC North Queensland news this morning - Bowen Rail Company is currently recruiting 50 local train, maintenance and administrative staff for its Carmichael Rail Network operations. Trains are expected to begin running later this year. Work continues on Bowen Rail's yard east of Kaili on Aurizon's Abbot Point branch.
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
They've advertised several times now on Seek for residential Driver's out of Bowen. Makes me wonder if they're not getting enough applicants?

Qualified driver's are getting a bit thin on the ground these days, between natural attrition due to an aging workforce and new blokes giving it away after finding they can earn more $$ from home and not have to do shiftwork.
  Expost Chief Commissioner

Qualified driver's are getting a bit thin on the ground these days, between natural attrition due to an aging workforce and new blokes giving it away after finding they can earn more $$ from home and not have to do shiftwork.
KRviator

Geez mate, please tell me where these jobs are.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
4600 class are apparently 'GT46CU-ACe Gen III (3)' hence the new look.
GT46C-ACe
These are described as GT46CU-ACE Gen 3 locomotive, so is Gen 3 in this case the same as USA domestic locos Tier 3 standards?

EDIT; would these particular locos that are now imported into QLD meet present day USA domestic emission standards for new build locos to run in the USA?

https://dieselnet.com/standards/us/loco.php
  M636C Minister for Railways

lkernan
The model number is interesting.
This is an Australian model number, possibly to link this locomotive to the very successful GT42ACU -ACe.

This locomotive appears to be a USA built model GT46AC, fitted with an Australian style cab and Australian design bogies.

Compare the GT46AC seen at
https://www.progressrail.com/en/Segments/RollingStock/Locomotives/FreightLocomotives/GT46AC.html

t can be seen that the arrangement of the hood doors and air intakes matches that of the standard US export unit, and is nothing like that of the GT42CU ACe or GT46C ACe built in Australia.

Gen III might just mean that it has later equipment than the GWB class which were model GT46C ACe.
It is possible that these units have separate inverters per axle, although this option was not that popular on the USA market.

These Bowen Rail locomotives seem to be lower in height than the standard GT46AC and also longer.
The GT46AC is already longer than 22 metres, the standard length over couplers in Australia.
The extra length can be seen in the section of hood behind the dynamic brakes.

I expect that One Rail may purchase some of these.

Peter

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