25 Years of the National Rail NR Class

 
  8502 Assistant Commissioner

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

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  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

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Good to watch

25 Years of the National Rail/Pacific National NR Class - YouTube
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  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

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Watched the entire video (eventually). Smile

Firstly, thanks to Greensleeves for its production.

Love them or hate them, the NRs have been a howling success. If so many other rail projects of all sorts had been as successful as the NRs, the industry would be far better off in so many ways than it is today.

This video will become a valuable historic item, highlighting as it does, not only the NRs but also the use of the ANs and DLs as bankers.
It also shows the slowly improving track quality from the mudholes featured in the first couple of minutes on the one hand to, on the other, the continued use of so much old rolling stock which is around 60 years old. Very little freight would move without the cut down ex VR and NSW opens together with the AN doorless opens. There are, of course, also the multitude of 63 foot container flats of similar origins and vintage.

All the oldies are a credit to their designers and builders (despite the variety of underframe distortions that some display today).

I don't recall a badly flat wheel anywhere either which is a credit to the Maintainers and Examiners.

Well done Greensleeves.Smile
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Breakthrough engineering in the industry that currently remains timeless with current versions still being based on it.
Will carry Australia for a while yet.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Breakthrough engineering in the industry that currently remains timeless with current versions still being based on it.
Will carry Australia for a while yet.
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It seems that that is about to end.
PN have ordered fifty new locomotives using a different engine, the GEVO-12 instead of the FDL-16, a different design of bogie, and AC traction instead of DC. The frame may be much the same, but the 442 class had that design of frame too.

And it seems likely that the new locomotives will replace the NRs.

Peter
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Id think this is perhaps the mid life video for most of them.  Id recon the fleet will still have legs for quite a while yet.

Greensleeves, keep the camera warm for the 50th!
  fzr560 Chief Train Controller

Breakthrough engineering in the industry that currently remains timeless with current versions still being based on it.
Will carry Australia for a while yet.
It seems that that is about to end.
PN have ordered fifty new locomotives using a different engine, the GEVO-12 instead of the FDL-16, a different design of bogie, and AC traction instead of DC. The frame may be much the same, but the 442 class had that design of frame too.

And it seems likely that the new locomotives will replace the NRs.

Peter
M636C
10 a year from 2023. One would expect changes to be incremental. Would PN specify 134t gross to meet Sydney Trains requirements, when Inland Rail is just around the corner? US experience would suggest AC tractions greatest advantage is in heavy-haul. Would PN not be best served by using these on heavy-haul coal and iron ore services? No doubt some will find their way into intermodal service, for promotional reasons as much as anything else, but if bang for buck is what they're after, they may need to spread them around.
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narrabri
Breakthrough engineering in the industry that currently remains timeless with current versions still being based on it.
Will carry Australia for a while yet.
It seems that that is about to end.
PN have ordered fifty new locomotives using a different engine, the GEVO-12 instead of the FDL-16, a different design of bogie, and AC traction instead of DC. The frame may be much the same, but the 442 class had that design of frame too.

And it seems likely that the new locomotives will replace the NRs.

Peter
10 a year from 2023. One would expect changes to be incremental. Would PN specify 134t gross to meet Sydney Trains requirements, when Inland Rail is just around the corner? US experience would suggest AC tractions greatest advantage is in heavy-haul. Would PN not be best served by using these on heavy-haul coal and iron ore services? No doubt some will find their way into intermodal service, for promotional reasons as much as anything else, but if bang for buck is what they're after, they may need to spread them around.
fzr560
I'd be surprised if they go anywhere but intermodal given that inland rail services will be heavy haul.
  GT46C-ACe Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
AC has benefits in all types of services not just heavy haul, there hasn't been a new locomotive built using DC traction for a class 1 there since 2011 along with all the recent DC to AC rebuilds. That sort of thinking is quite outdated...
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narrabri
AC has benefits in all types of services not just heavy haul, there hasn't been a new locomotive built using DC traction for a class 1 there since 2011 along with all the recent DC to AC rebuilds. That sort of thinking is quite outdated...
GT46C-ACe
I agree. I'd much rather have AC traction up the front on any service.

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