Standard Gauge VLocity

 
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Do you have any notion of how much it costs to install and certify new points, signals and maintenance equipment?

Are you even remotely familiar with the concept of opportunity cost - the infinite wants of keyboard gunzels versus the finite pockets of taxpayers?
NimbleJack
Since when does extending a siding for a DMU require points? They don't require a run around so unless there is insufficient space to extend the siding away from the junction necessitating moving the points then you don't need new points, signals etc

And even if that were the case you don't need to buy new so the costs would be reduced by simply moving the old

If $$$ can then be saved not buying extra driver motors which sit unused in the middle of a 2 x 3VL or even a 3 x 3VL set then that potential saving needs to be offset against any additional costs before any judgement can be made

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line

The first stardard-gauge commercial VLocity run is supposed to happen this week, albeit sans buffet module. I'd be curious to hear passengers' reports.WHAT!! No chips from the buffet ??? Why is it missing anyway- no providers appointed yet by Z/line ?
Tii

There have never been 'chips from the buffet', even going right back to the days of VR & VicRail over 30 years ago. The Spirit of Progress buffet car prior to the implementation of the XPT around 30 years ago probably had a deep fryer and the Taggerty buffet car on the Bendigo line may have also had a deep fryer so you could have chips with your mixed grill, chops or bangers as they used to cook actual meals enroute in those days. OHS guidelines certainly put an end to any thoughts of boiling hot oil sloshing around in deep fryers or dripping onto the floor.

Obviously some contributors in these pages don't do much regional rail travel. Smile

Mike.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Onboard cooking kitchens are allowed on China's locomotive-hauled trains which have top speeds of up to 160 km/h.  It is only on high speed EMUs of 200 km/h and over do they use frozen-chain meals that are microwaved onboard.  Their long distance trains commonly consist of 18 cars hauled by one or two locomotives so the acceleration and deceleration are much gentler.  The station controllers also advise drivers via radio of how many minutes before the approach signal changes to proceed so they can handle the train more smoothly.  The track conditions are often better with 60 kg rails along most sections, 75 kg at important hubs.  All of those conditions make it pretty safe for the chef onboard.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Remember the utter panic when microwaves were first proposed on Victorian trains!
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Are they microwave ovens or resistor-heated ovens on the N sets?  From my purchase experience the reheating time is too short for a resistor oven to complete.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Are they microwave ovens or resistor-heated ovens on the N sets?  From my purchase experience the reheating time is too short for a resistor oven to complete.
route14
Don't know about N sets but at the time everyone was supposed to be dead before the end of the shift due to being fried with radiation so microwave I assume.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Can have hot chips in the buffet with an air fryer Very Happy
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Remember the utter panic when microwaves were first proposed on Victorian trains!
YM-Mundrabilla
I remember looking at them in disgust when they appeared in NSW too. Mad Never knew what you're getting, be it a 92 with its' microwave or an 82/90 with the hotplate and made it hard to plan your crib. Give me an old-school hotplate any day.
  Djebel Chief Train Controller

Can have hot chips in the buffet with an air fryer Very Happy
Greensleeves
So baked chips.

Air fryer = small fan forced electric oven.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Can have hot chips in the buffet with an air fryer Very Happy
So baked chips.

Air fryer = small fan forced electric oven.
Djebel
They taste better that way anyway
  Djebel Chief Train Controller

Can have hot chips in the buffet with an air fryer Very Happy
So baked chips.

Air fryer = small fan forced electric oven.
They taste better that way anyway
Greensleeves
They taste better when they're cooked in dripping!
  Tii Chief Train Controller


The first stardard-gauge commercial VLocity run is supposed to happen this week, albeit sans buffet module. I'd be curious to hear passengers' reports.WHAT!! No chips from the buffet ??? Why is it missing anyway- no providers appointed yet by Z/line ?
There have never been 'chips from the buffet', even going right back to the days of VR & VicRail over 30 years ago. The Spirit of Progress buffet car prior to the implementation of the XPT around 30 years ago probably had a deep fryer and the Taggerty buffet car on the Bendigo line may have also had a deep fryer so you could have chips with your mixed grill, chops or bangers as they used to cook actual meals enroute in those days. OHS guidelines certainly put an end to any thoughts of boiling hot oil sloshing around in deep fryers or dripping onto the floor.

Obviously some contributors in these pages don't do much regional rail travel. Smile

Mike.
The Vinelander
LOL- I was thinking more about a pack of Smith's crisps I guess- not hot fatty chips. Although my preference is Tyrell's these days but a tad pricey.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line

The first stardard-gauge commercial VLocity run is supposed to happen this week, albeit sans buffet module. I'd be curious to hear passengers' reports.WHAT!! No chips from the buffet ??? Why is it missing anyway- no providers appointed yet by Z/line ?

There have never been 'chips from the buffet', even going right back to the days of VR & VicRail over 30 years ago. The Spirit of Progress buffet car prior to the implementation of the XPT around 30 years ago probably had a deep fryer and the Taggerty buffet car on the Bendigo line may have also had a deep fryer so you could have chips with your mixed grill, chops or bangers as they used to cook actual meals enroute in those days. OHS guidelines certainly put an end to any thoughts of boiling hot oil sloshing around in deep fryers or dripping onto the floor.

Obviously some contributors in these pages don't do much regional rail travel. Smile

Mike.

LOL- I was thinking more about a pack of Smith's crisps I guess- not hot fatty chips. Although my preference is Tyrell's these days but a tad pricey.
Tii

Crisps and chips are two different food items. Some how some people get the items confused.

M.
  John.Z Deputy Commissioner


Crisps and chips are two different food items. Some how some people get the items confused.

M.
The Vinelander
In australia, it's chips and chips (or chips and hot chips). crisps are a british term, as are french fries in the US respectively.
  Tii Chief Train Controller


Crisps and chips are two different food items. Some how some people get the items confused.

M.In australia, it's chips and chips (or chips and hot chips). crisps are a british term, as are french fries in the US respectively.
John.Z
Yes another quirk of English in it's various forms. Back to the question though- what is their no buffet service on the SG V/locity ? A COVID thing perhaps or someone forgot to order the coffee, muffins and chips (or crisps) in time for the start despite ordering the trains years ago.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
LOL- I was thinking more about a pack of Smith's crisps I guess- not hot fatty chips. Although my preference is Tyrell's these days but a tad pricey.
Tii
Tyrells are good. Very good in fact. But nothing beats Kettle Chilli! Tried the new Smiths Crinkle Cut Chilli on the weekend. A contender when they are on special at Safetyways.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line

Crisps and chips are two different food items. Some how some people get the items confused.

M.In australia, it's chips and chips (or chips and hot chips). crisps are a british term, as are french fries in the US respectively.
John.Z

I'm old school and why would a food item change its name because of the temperature it's purchased at. So, hot chips are hot chips even when they are cold Question

Potato crisps are obviously not hot chips...or cold, or tepid hot chips.

Mike.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Enough food talk, I'm working off a lockdown lump.

Was the chatter I saw on Facebook about a revenue service this week true (sort of indicated as such upthread)?  Doesnt sound like it has happened yet.
  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Enough food talk, I'm working off a lockdown lump.

Was the chatter I saw on Facebook about a revenue service this week true (sort of indicated as such upthread)?  Doesnt sound like it has happened yet.
james.au
Haven't seen anything evidential. I did see this photo on Vicsig taken on Monday of 3VS94 having its first test run to Seymour, but obviously not a revenue service.

Have either of the new sets even passed testing yet in order to carry revenue pax?
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

They taste better when they're cooked in dripping!
Djebel

But they are also likely to put you 6 foot under sooner....
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narrabri
Enough food talk, I'm working off a lockdown lump.

Was the chatter I saw on Facebook about a revenue service this week true (sort of indicated as such upthread)?  Doesnt sound like it has happened yet.
Haven't seen anything evidential. I did see this photo on Vicsig taken on Monday of 3VS94 having its first test run to Seymour, but obviously not a revenue service.

Have either of the new sets even passed testing yet in order to carry revenue pax?
Contrillion
First test run to Seymour last week? I saw it stabled in Seymour while it was running tests on the NE in the middle of October.
  Tii Chief Train Controller

Busses are replacing some trains on the line until December 19, would seem a bit pointless to launch a service before then, only to run a bus. Maybe a Christmas present service or in the New Year.  (assuming they get the buffett sorted -I'm not riding without chips or crisps or fizzy drinks)
  Lachlan's Train Channel Chief Train Controller

Location: probably taking a photo of 7901V
Enough food talk, I'm working off a lockdown lump.

Was the chatter I saw on Facebook about a revenue service this week true (sort of indicated as such upthread)?  Doesnt sound like it has happened yet.
Haven't seen anything evidential. I did see this photo on Vicsig taken on Monday of 3VS94 having its first test run to Seymour, but obviously not a revenue service.

Have either of the new sets even passed testing yet in order to carry revenue pax?
First test run to Seymour last week? I saw it stabled in Seymour while it was running tests on the NE in the middle of October.
Fatty
Are you sure it was VS94 or was it 93? 94 was still on broad gauge being built in October.
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narrabri
Enough food talk, I'm working off a lockdown lump.

Was the chatter I saw on Facebook about a revenue service this week true (sort of indicated as such upthread)?  Doesnt sound like it has happened yet.
Haven't seen anything evidential. I did see this photo on Vicsig taken on Monday of 3VS94 having its first test run to Seymour, but obviously not a revenue service.

Have either of the new sets even passed testing yet in order to carry revenue pax?
First test run to Seymour last week? I saw it stabled in Seymour while it was running tests on the NE in the middle of October.
Are you sure it was VS94 or was it 93? 94 was still on broad gauge being built in October.
Lachlan's Train Channel
I don't know numbers. I assumed that was the standard gauge set given the thread we're in.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
There are currently 2 Vlocity sets that have been built and are on Standard Gauge.

93 was the first and has been running test, trial and training runs for the past few weeks.

94 was put into testing & trial runs in the last week or so. Before that it would have been on BG bogies to get from Dandenong to South Dynon where it would have then been re-gauged.

No doubt 95 won't be too far off.


I did get a quick look at 93 today as it was sitting in platform 2A at Southern Cross with a bunch of conductors I think doing some work in the buffet car, making good use of the tables as work desks. Looked like some sort of training I'm guessing. Couldn't get a decent look at the buffet unit, the window tint is a bit darker on that part of the centre car.

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