Victoria should just ignore them. The NSW government already provides them with 2 return XPT services a day to Melbourne and the service will continue when the new train arrives.
Do you have some sort of shrine to John Whitton in your bedroom?
This thread is like a game of demented Railpage bingo: sims injecting New South Wales glorification at random, Michael dropping in his hatred for the SRL, bevans making baseless remarks about the VLocity...
PIMM your remark about demented Railpage bingo does not make the justification for the SRL any greater. No one and I mean no one was discussing a heavy rail orbital rail before it was released in the ALP manifesto. Why because it isn't needed. It is a project that is purely speculative and relies in the main of jobs being relocated from the CBD Docklands and Southbank. And your rational, that it is unsustainable to run empty trains from the city. So to remedy the situation lets build a $50 Billion SRL.
I find it galling that you are so opposed to Electrification to Geelong, a corridor that sees trains every 10 mins at peak and is rapidly approaching the situation which will require the corridor to be electrified. There are very few train networks operating such intense services using DMU's. And again here is a corridor that will probably reach critical mass as suburbs like Wyndhamvale and Tarneit are bursting at the seams. Electrification will be needed and yet you cite cost as being too great to justify whilst justifying $50 Billion on the SRL.
I agree with your summation about NSW to a point. Interurban and Metro Journeys for both NSW and Vic are similar. Sims sometimes tiresome NSW glorification is irritating, but using Sydney and Melbourne Rail Networks as an example, Sims has a bloody point! The Sydney system is a far reaching system approaching the complexity of suburban networks in Europe. And which is about to be enhanced by Sydney Metro.
Melbourne's system on the other hand is just a glorified branch line network. A network that has a significant percentage of single line corridors. A network that in the Western suburbs is served by V/Line diesel using stock that is seriously old and should be scrapped, during the peak.
I would rather the Vic Government deliver the Melbourne Metro 2 than the SRL.