Update on Dorrigo?

 

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Posted 5 years ago

  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
"The leaflet he handed me said $50yr for just being a member and another $60yr for a monthly newsletter."
Their website reads:

" Membership is the best way you can keep up with the Museum's progress, even if you are not actively involved. Members receive a monthly newsletter ,detailing the latest work projects, potential exhibits on offer, and appeal totals. In addition, membership allows you to attend, and vote at, the general meetings of the museum company.
The membership fee is currently set at $50.00 per year."

Nowhere on the web site is their any mention of an "extra $60 a year for a monthly newsletter."  In fact their web site clearly states "Members receive a monthly newsletter"

Clearly then if there is an additional $60 pa that has to be paid in order to receive a monthly newsletter, their website is misleading and deceptive conduct by a Corporation within the meaning of Sec 52 of the Trade Practices Act.

How many people have been caught out by a misleading website only to find that they have to pay and extra $60 a year to get a newsletter?

Their newsletter was the only means of communication on what was going on with this group. You get no other communication, apart from the annual financials and notice of annual general meeting.

Personally I would regard it as dishonest conduct if there is a further imposition not mentioned in their web site.
OldSteamer
Perhaps because the form on the website is from 5yrs ago, and its only single sided compared to a more recent iteration of it. As mentioned prior they really have kept up with the times with all things internet related. I'm not spewing Smeg, here's the forms themselves taken with my impeccable photography skills thus have a look. The section I'm referring to is at the bottom of page 2.

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  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Thanks, DD.
Feel like I’ve just read a Quentin Tarantino script.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Thanks, DD.
Feel like I’ve just read a Quentin Tarantino script.
michaelgm
Not enough gore for that!

I feel this is more accurate



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f26NY2xciKk
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
25 July 2021 West Tamworth: vandals have smashed every window in 8650, 8507 and 8601 sitting in the West Tamworth yard (formerly Pacific National /Cope.

All 3 locomotives and Krupp crane locomotive 1060 were moved to West Tamworth by Dorrigo to shorten the distance the low loader had to cover to complete the remaining distance to Dorrigo.


Dorrigo's low loader has been busy enough over the last year moving Woorimi, Atlantic Union Oil NTAF 7085 and an Acid Tank Wagon, and Portland No 5 to Dorrigo ( the Portland from Victoria)



Let's hope it was not someone with a pathological hatred of Dorrigo. That would be taking it a bit far.



Some have suggested it has to do with youth unemployment, drugs etc
Yawn
They are sitting in West Tamworth, absolutley locals!!
  viaprojects Assistant Commissioner







Some have suggested it has to do with youth unemployment, drugs etc
Yawn


it would be the other type of vandals testing security for the site ..
  tezza Chief Commissioner

"The leaflet he handed me said $50yr for just being a member and another $60yr for a monthly newsletter."

Your initial "First Year" membership fee is $50.00,
after that your membership
fee increases to $60.00 per year
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner
  apw5910 Chief Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Never seen this before.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TtWs7sMoiP8&feature=youtu.be
michaelgm
Why weren't they wearing hi-vis?
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
From the Youtube description -

"A short history of how one of the greatest railway museums in the world got started.

From very humble beginnings in 1973 in the Hunter Valley to the colossus that it is today..."

Nearly 50 years. That's actually pretty sad.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

Never seen this before.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TtWs7sMoiP8&feature=youtu.be
Why weren't they wearing hi-vis?

Hi-vis wasn't required in 1984
apw5910
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Simple update on Dorrigo - nothing happening.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Simple update on Dorrigo - nothing happening.
Valvegear
Rapid in comparison.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BZvsrOciU_Q
  BrianBS Junior Train Controller

I don't know how they can claim to be a museum ? They are not open to the public !

Museum Definition
According to the ICOM Statutes, adopted by the 22nd General Assembly in Vienna, Austria, on 24 August 2007, the current definition is as follows:

“A museum is a non-profit, permanent institution in the service of society and its development, open to the public, which acquires, conserves, researches, communicates and exhibits the tangible and intangible heritage of humanity and its environment for the purposes of education, study and enjoyment.

I got quite excited in the early 80's when this all started - but now 40 years later it is still not open - I'm now 75, I'll never live long enough to see it open to the public in my lifetime !!!
  hbedriver Deputy Commissioner

Oh, goody, this has started up again.

While we’re at it, have they got enough  space to preserve all members of the NR class?
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
A Barry scrapyard but where does the money come from?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

I don't know how they can claim to be a museum ? They are not open to the public !

Museum Definition
According to the ICOM Statutes, adopted by the 22nd General Assembly in Vienna, Austria, on 24 August 2007, the current definition is as follows:

“A museum is a non-profit, permanent institution in the service of society and its development, open to the public, which acquires, conserves, researches, communicates and exhibits the tangible and intangible heritage of humanity and its environment for the purposes of education, study and enjoyment.

I got quite excited in the early 80's when this all started - but now 40 years later it is still not open - I'm now 75, I'll never live long enough to see it open to the public in my lifetime !!!
BrianBS
I stayed with a long term Coffs resident around the time of the move early 86/87? The whole town a buzz with future tourism opportunities. And here we are.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Oh, goody, this has started up again.

While we’re at it, have they got enough  space to preserve all members of the NR class?
No.

Keith was only recently complaining about lack of trackage to offload what was sitting on hiw own semi.

Wouldn't have a clue where he is going to offload these two. Clearly they have to be offloaded as the lowloaders in the video are not Dorrigo's. One is a 10 wheeler.

And February 2022 is when Chris Richard's Judgment Day arrives in the Supreme Court at Sydney.

If a rescue operation has to be mounted to save any of his collection - and Huntlee will probably win the case and just bulldoze the stuff into the ground and send it off in containers to Korea. Stuff is going to be flying here there and everywhere.

(PS I'm not a pessimist but I have been around courts for far too long to be sanguine about the outcome of legal proceedings)

So you tell me. Not many sidings left and Transport NSW are not very happy with a lot of heritage groups at the moment.

And there are still 3 large locos sitting at West Tamworth.
Yawn
Got some proof with your Transport NSW statement?

2x 86 Classes and part of the breakdown crane (i think its off the crane) left at West Tamworth.
  Yawn Station Master

Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Oh, goody, this has started up again.

While we’re at it, have they got enough  space to preserve all members of the NR class?
No.

Keith was only recently complaining about lack of trackage to offload what was sitting on hiw own semi.

Wouldn't have a clue where he is going to offload these two. Clearly they have to be offloaded as the lowloaders in the video are not Dorrigo's. One is a 10 wheeler.

And February 2022 is when Chris Richard's Judgment Day arrives in the Supreme Court at Sydney.

If a rescue operation has to be mounted to save any of his collection - and Huntlee will probably win the case and just bulldoze the stuff into the ground and send it off in containers to Korea. Stuff is going to be flying here there and everywhere.

(PS I'm not a pessimist but I have been around courts for far too long to be sanguine about the outcome of legal proceedings)

So you tell me. Not many sidings left and Transport NSW are not very happy with a lot of heritage groups at the moment.

And there are still 3 large locos sitting at West Tamworth.
Got some proof with your Transport NSW statement?

2x 86 Classes and part of the breakdown crane (i think its off the crane) left at West Tamworth.
LowndesJ515
It's the Vibes: Dennis Donutto
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Oh, goody, this has started up again.

While we’re at it, have they got enough  space to preserve all members of the NR class?
No.

Keith was only recently complaining about lack of trackage to offload what was sitting on hiw own semi.

Wouldn't have a clue where he is going to offload these two. Clearly they have to be offloaded as the lowloaders in the video are not Dorrigo's. One is a 10 wheeler.

And February 2022 is when Chris Richard's Judgment Day arrives in the Supreme Court at Sydney.

If a rescue operation has to be mounted to save any of his collection - and Huntlee will probably win the case and just bulldoze the stuff into the ground and send it off in containers to Korea. Stuff is going to be flying here there and everywhere.

(PS I'm not a pessimist but I have been around courts for far too long to be sanguine about the outcome of legal proceedings)
Yawn
To Recall my visit last year, the "museum" owns the land between the former station yard and the former farm where Mr Jones lives. Pretty much just a summit of a Hill. His plan was to completely demolish the hill (and the property ontop of it, that they of course own, roughly 700-800sqm in size going off google) to build a triangle and to of course more yard space to fit more stuff in, and fill in more of the gully heading west. I am very much unsure of the legality of something like that these days, especially in such an environmentally conservative council such as Ballingin. It ain't the 1970s anymore.

The Ex Wodonga Porter was sitting on a low loader for months, I'm not even sure if its been moved off it yet.

Don't Worry people, after that's done Phase one of the shed will happen and then the Garrat from Forbes and the SMR 10 Class will come!  Laughing
  steamfreak Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wodonga, VIC
Oh, goody, this has started up again.

While we’re at it, have they got enough  space to preserve all members of the NR class?
No.

Keith was only recently complaining about lack of trackage to offload what was sitting on hiw own semi.

Wouldn't have a clue where he is going to offload these two. Clearly they have to be offloaded as the lowloaders in the video are not Dorrigo's. One is a 10 wheeler.

And February 2022 is when Chris Richard's Judgment Day arrives in the Supreme Court at Sydney.

If a rescue operation has to be mounted to save any of his collection - and Huntlee will probably win the case and just bulldoze the stuff into the ground and send it off in containers to Korea. Stuff is going to be flying here there and everywhere.

(PS I'm not a pessimist but I have been around courts for far too long to be sanguine about the outcome of legal proceedings)
To Recall my visit last year, the "museum" owns the land between the former station yard and the former farm where Mr Jones lives. Pretty much just a summit of a Hill. His plan was to completely demolish the hill (and the property ontop of it, that they of course own, roughly 700-800sqm in size going off google) to build a triangle and to of course more yard space to fit more stuff in, and fill in more of the gully heading west. I am very much unsure of the legality of something like that these days, especially in such an environmentally conservative council such as Ballingin. It ain't the 1970s anymore.

The Ex Wodonga Porter was sitting on a low loader for months, I'm not even sure if its been moved off it yet.

Don't Worry people, after that's done Phase one of the shed will happen and then the Garrat from Forbes and the SMR 10 Class will come!  Laughing
Dangersdan707
And shortly afterwards - steam specials to Glenreagh?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Oh, goody, this has started up again.

While we’re at it, have they got enough  space to preserve all members of the NR class?
No.

Keith was only recently complaining about lack of trackage to offload what was sitting on hiw own semi.

Wouldn't have a clue where he is going to offload these two. Clearly they have to be offloaded as the lowloaders in the video are not Dorrigo's. One is a 10 wheeler.

And February 2022 is when Chris Richard's Judgment Day arrives in the Supreme Court at Sydney.

If a rescue operation has to be mounted to save any of his collection - and Huntlee will probably win the case and just bulldoze the stuff into the ground and send it off in containers to Korea. Stuff is going to be flying here there and everywhere.

(PS I'm not a pessimist but I have been around courts for far too long to be sanguine about the outcome of legal proceedings)
To Recall my visit last year, the "museum" owns the land between the former station yard and the former farm where Mr Jones lives. Pretty much just a summit of a Hill. His plan was to completely demolish the hill (and the property ontop of it, that they of course own, roughly 700-800sqm in size going off google) to build a triangle and to of course more yard space to fit more stuff in, and fill in more of the gully heading west. I am very much unsure of the legality of something like that these days, especially in such an environmentally conservative council such as Ballingin. It ain't the 1970s anymore.

The Ex Wodonga Porter was sitting on a low loader for months, I'm not even sure if its been moved off it yet.

Don't Worry people, after that's done Phase one of the shed will happen and then the Garrat from Forbes and the SMR 10 Class will come!  Laughing
And shortly afterwards - steam specials to Glenreagh?
steamfreak
If not for those splitters and da gobernmnet ripping out the points from the mainline we would have been open 30yrs ago and running trains to Sydney everyday of the week!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
I would expect every update on Dorrigo to include a progress report on the rate of increase of the rust collection.
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Oh, goody, this has started up again.

While we’re at it, have they got enough  space to preserve all members of the NR class?
No.

Keith was only recently complaining about lack of trackage to offload what was sitting on hiw own semi.

Wouldn't have a clue where he is going to offload these two. Clearly they have to be offloaded as the lowloaders in the video are not Dorrigo's. One is a 10 wheeler.

And February 2022 is when Chris Richard's Judgment Day arrives in the Supreme Court at Sydney.

If a rescue operation has to be mounted to save any of his collection - and Huntlee will probably win the case and just bulldoze the stuff into the ground and send it off in containers to Korea. Stuff is going to be flying here there and everywhere.

(PS I'm not a pessimist but I have been around courts for far too long to be sanguine about the outcome of legal proceedings)
To Recall my visit last year, the "museum" owns the land between the former station yard and the former farm where Mr Jones lives. Pretty much just a summit of a Hill. His plan was to completely demolish the hill (and the property ontop of it, that they of course own, roughly 700-800sqm in size going off google) to build a triangle and to of course more yard space to fit more stuff in, and fill in more of the gully heading west. I am very much unsure of the legality of something like that these days, especially in such an environmentally conservative council such as Ballingin. It ain't the 1970s anymore.

The Ex Wodonga Porter was sitting on a low loader for months, I'm not even sure if its been moved off it yet.

Don't Worry people, after that's done Phase one of the shed will happen and then the Garrat from Forbes and the SMR 10 Class will come!  Laughing
And shortly afterwards - steam specials to Glenreagh?
If not for those splitters and da gobernmnet ripping out the points from the mainline we could would have been open 30yrs ago and running trains to Sydney everyday of the week!
Dangersdan707
DD has obviously seen the light and given up on converting Dorrigo and its rolling stock to BG?Laughing
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
If not for those splitters and da gobernmnet ripping out the points from the mainline we could would have been open 30yrs ago and running trains to Sydney everyday of the week!
Dangersdan707
EDIT; I realise Dangersdan707 that your post may have been in jest, but I am exploring the $$$$$ practicalities of any Dorrigo steam trains or similar in that part of the world, with perhaps the grey nomad or similar tourists as main $$$ customers.

Dorrigo rail musem mob may have survived running trains for a while but does anyone know if the present day rail fan 1930s style heritage carriage tour trains have retention tank dunnies and wheelchair /mobility assistant walking frame accessible dunnies, remembering a lot of rail fans are older folk and so may need mobility assistance?

My point is the modern day passenger is what may now be purchsing tickets on any Dorrigo operated train trips, so the carriages need to cater for their age related requirements plus modern Sanitation rules, such as maybe requiring the cost of changing tour carriages to have retention tank dunnies with wheelchair / walking frame accessible dunnies.
  viaprojects Assistant Commissioner

does anyone know if the present day rail fan 1930s style heritage carriage tour trains have retention tank dunnies and wheelchair /mobility assistant walking frame accessible dunnies, remembering a lot of rail fans are older folk and so may need mobility assistance?
petan


your joking .. it's heritage so you don't update to modern standards per say .. the toilets would be out of order on the carriages  .. the only requirement for modern wheelchair /mobility assistant options is the stations / new rolling stock / etc ..

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