Europe is rolling out quite a number of these so called greenie sleepers. What is Australia doing ?

We did see some plastic ones according to Railpage but these have not been cascaded across the networks on ARTC at least. Or have they ?

Rail freight even greener with these green sleepers

Europe is rolling out quite a number of these so called greenie sleepers. What is Australia doing ?

We did see some plastic ones according to Railpage but these have not been cascaded across the networks on ARTC at least. Or have they ?

Rail freight even greener with these green sleepers

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

Europe is rolling out quite a number of these so called greenie sleepers.

not really green ..just a place to hide toxic product - see - sulfur waste mountain ..

Europe is rolling out quite a number of these so called greenie sleepers. What is Australia doing ?

We did see some plastic ones according to Railpage but these have not been cascaded across the networks on ARTC at least. Or have they ?

Rail freight even greener with these green sleepers

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

You guys are beyond pathetic

Europe is rolling out quite a number of these so called greenie sleepers. What is Australia doing ?

We did see some plastic ones according to Railpage but these have not been cascaded across the networks on ARTC at least. Or have they ?

Rail freight even greener with these green sleepers

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

You guys are beyond pathetic

What an incredible argument.

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

+1 a bit hard to replace a sleeper with a life span of 25-50 years ..

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p252569.htm

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

+1 a bit hard to replace a sleeper with a life span of 25-50 years ..

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p252569.htm

I was talking about the sleepers that actually need replacing, either through age or poor condition.

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

+1 a bit hard to replace a sleeper with a life span of 25-50 years ..

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p252569.htm

I was talking about the sleepers that actually need replacing, either through age or poor condition.

long time line .. track still gets inspected .. and the concrete sleepers get reused when a line is redone ..

Europe is rolling out quite a number of these so called greenie sleepers. What is Australia doing ?

We did see some plastic ones according to Railpage but these have not been cascaded across the networks on ARTC at least. Or have they ?

Rail freight even greener with these green sleepers

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

You guys are beyond pathetic

What an incredible argument.

Back up your statement with facts then, although if either of you had bothered to read the story, you'd realise that the story is just marketing spiel for a company that's sold a heap of stuff to the Belgians and nobody else

Then you try and twist it to make it out to be some kind failing of the Australian rail industry.

That is pretty pathetic. Fact!

Europe is rolling out quite a number of these so called greenie sleepers. What is Australia doing ?

We did see some plastic ones according to Railpage but these have not been cascaded across the networks on ARTC at least. Or have they ?

Rail freight even greener with these green sleepers

Not replacing sleepers, that's what. (Unless a train happens to fall off.)

You guys are beyond pathetic

What an incredible argument.

Back up your statement with facts then, although if either of you had bothered to read the story, you'd realise that the story is just marketing spiel for a company that's sold a heap of stuff to the Belgians and nobody else

Then you try and twist it to make it out to be some kind failing of the Australian rail industry.

That is pretty pathetic. Fact!

Take a look at the network around Melbourne with its long stretches of goat tracks that should have been replaced years ago.

Back up your statement with facts then, although if either of you had bothered to read the story, you'd realise that the story is just marketing spiel for a company that's sold a heap of stuff to the Belgians and nobody else

Then you try and twist it to make it out to be some kind failing of the Australian rail industry.

That is pretty pathetic. Fact!

Take a look at the network around Melbourne with its long stretches of goat tracks that should have been replaced years ago.

I don't see it as pointing to a failing of the Rail industry, more as a failure of governance / Governments.

In this case Infrabel is a Government owned organisation that has tendered out for the supply of these sleepers.

If indeed recycled plastic sleepers are fit for purpose then they should be mandated for use on at least lightly laid lines like some regional Victorian grain lines instead of continuing to use timber or transitioning to environmentally unfriendly concretes.

Likewise in the case of the ARTC lines if as I suspect plastic would not be up to the higher speeds and axle loads of these lines then the government should help to develop alternatives as has been done in this case

The industry would then use what is mandated and so long as it doesn't compromise safety or cost the earth compared to the status quo then it is win-win as far as I can see.

However sadly our Governments both State and Federal seen happy to pay lip service to these things with a little trial here and there to keep the hard hats and high vis in the news while continuing on with what seem to me to be outdated practices and thinking