Daniel Andrews Imploding Act

 
Topic moved from The Lounge by bevans on 17 Feb 2022 13:11
  BaysideManny Assistant Commissioner

I find it interesting that all four ministers who are resigning are quite high profile.  Health, Education, Policing, Employment/Trade... (There's a common denominator there)

What do they know that we don't?  I'm not sure it's simply burnout or wanting to take a slower pace of life.
Carnot
Nobody can be completely sure as to why they have resigned. James Merlino I am sad about. Martin Pakula on the other hand is no great loss.

I am not bothered so long as absolute no marks such as Bernie Finn do not get anywhere near the reigns of Government.


Mannie

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  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Again...the echo chamber.
The Vinelander
You mean the "The Mildura train must surely return any moment now" thread?

Yup, your own personal echo chamber.
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Dan Andres denies that factional issues will decide who gets what in his new cabinet - ABC;

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said he did not expect any factional resistance to Jacinta Allan's ascension to the Deputy Premier role and that factional allegiances were overstated.

"My recollection is that whilst, for instance, Rob Hulls did a very good impersonation of someone from the left, he was not from the left," Mr Andrews said.

"Whilst John Thwaites was a particularly progressive member of that government, he was not a member of the left."

Treasurer Tim Pallas, who represents the right faction of the Labor Party, said the party would be unified in their support for Ms Allan.

"It really befalls to be as the senior minister for the right to make it very clear that I am a very strong supporter of Jacinta Allan to be the deputy Premier," Mr Pallas said.

"I'll certainly be recommending to the right Caucuses that they should be supporting Jacinta for the role."

Re-arranging the deck chairs?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Again...the echo chamber.
You mean the "The Mildura train must surely return any moment now" thread?

Yup, your own personal echo chamber.
don_dunstan

Stop contributing to that thread because your hypocracy is so blindly obvious. 'I want this thread closed down...but I want to contribute to it as well'

Moreover, as Bevans said yesterday reading and or contributing to threads is not compulsory.

Get it Question

M.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
I find it interesting that all four ministers who are resigning are quite high profile.  Health, Education, Policing, Employment/Trade... (There's a common denominator there)

What do they know that we don't?  I'm not sure it's simply burnout or wanting to take a slower pace of life.
Nobody can be completely sure as to why they have resigned. James Merlino I am sad about. Martin Pakula on the other hand is no great loss.

I am not bothered so long as absolute no marks such as Bernie Finn do not get anywhere near the reigns of Government.


Mannie
BaysideManny
Lisa Neville has been unwell a long time, and we should be greatful for her dedication and perserverance to stick out a couple of exhausting years.

The others are all still relatively young and want a life.

Martin Foley had to been dragged in relunctantly 15years ago from his real love of union work.
The perpetual Minister for warm&fuzzy, and cleaning up everybody elses mess is exhausting.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I find it interesting that all four ministers who are resigning are quite high profile.  Health, Education, Policing, Employment/Trade... (There's a common denominator there)

What do they know that we don't?  I'm not sure it's simply burnout or wanting to take a slower pace of life.
Nobody can be completely sure as to why they have resigned. James Merlino I am sad about. Martin Pakula on the other hand is no great loss.

I am not bothered so long as absolute no marks such as Bernie Finn do not get anywhere near the reigns of Government.


Mannie
Lisa Neville has been unwell a long time, and we should be greatful for her dedication and perserverance to stick out a couple of exhausting years.

The others are all still relatively young and want a life.

Martin Foley had to been dragged in relunctantly 15years ago from his real love of union work.
The perpetual Minister for warm&fuzzy, and cleaning up everybody elses mess is exhausting.
justarider
Reading between the lines:
- Lisa's departure seems to be no big surprise.
- Martin Foley struggled in the Health portfolio tbh.  That Dept is an absolute shambles and seems to be getting worse.
- Merlino probably got 'pushed' because of a factional fight or the fact he was resisting some of the extreme leftist/wokeist push into schools.  The red-raggers in the AEU may have been behind this.
- Pakula again probably fell foul of the Socialist Left dominated leadership in cabinet.  He seemed to be one of the more competent ministers IMO.

Victoria feels like East Germany more and more each day.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The 4 ministers leaving could be some window dressing for the election. The Vic government is on the nose maybe this is the start of working through that issue.
  BaysideManny Assistant Commissioner

I find it interesting that all four ministers who are resigning are quite high profile.  Health, Education, Policing, Employment/Trade... (There's a common denominator there)

What do they know that we don't?  I'm not sure it's simply burnout or wanting to take a slower pace of life.
Nobody can be completely sure as to why they have resigned. James Merlino I am sad about. Martin Pakula on the other hand is no great loss.

I am not bothered so long as absolute no marks such as Bernie Finn do not get anywhere near the reigns of Government.


Mannie
Lisa Neville has been unwell a long time, and we should be greatful for her dedication and perserverance to stick out a couple of exhausting years.

The others are all still relatively young and want a life.

Martin Foley had to been dragged in relunctantly 15years ago from his real love of union work.
The perpetual Minister for warm&fuzzy, and cleaning up everybody elses mess is exhausting.
Reading between the lines:
- Lisa's departure seems to be no big surprise.
- Martin Foley struggled in the Health portfolio tbh.  That Dept is an absolute shambles and seems to be getting worse.
- Merlino probably got 'pushed' because of a factional fight or the fact he was resisting some of the extreme leftist/wokeist push into schools.  The red-raggers in the AEU may have been behind this.
- Pakula again probably fell foul of the Socialist Left dominated leadership in cabinet.  He seemed to be one of the more competent ministers IMO.

Victoria feels like East Germany more and more each day.
Carnot
Fair enough you are no fan of The ALP, but some of your observations are absolute horse poo. The constant use of woke by you is making you sound like Piers Morgan and that man is an absolute tosser.

Merlino probably got 'pushed' because of a factional fight or the fact he was resisting some of the extreme leftist/wokeist push into schools.

Any proof ?

Pakula competent. Total rubbish. Probably fell foul because he was utterly rubbish. He kept his job through the Hotel outbreak saga and poor Jenny Mykonos lost hers.


Mannie
  don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Adelaide proud
Again...the echo chamber.
You mean the "The Mildura train must surely return any moment now" thread?

Yup, your own personal echo chamber.

Stop contributing to that thread because your hypocracy is so blindly obvious. 'I want this thread closed down...but I want to contribute to it as well'

Moreover, as Bevans said yesterday reading and or contributing to threads is not compulsory.

Get it Question

M.
The Vinelander
But on the other hand it doesn't stop you from following me from thread to thread like a bad smell, does it now, Mike.

How was the farewell party today? The real one is after you've left, don't you know.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Victoria feels like East Germany more and more each day.
"Carnot"
You really do make some silly statements. What was your experience in East Germany?
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Not to worry as that star of everything that is stuffed, Jacinta Allan, is to be Deputy Premier.

Herr Kommandant Weimar is to be boss of the Commonwealth Games. Is there nothing that he cannot do?
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
Herr Kommandant Weimar is to be boss of the Commonwealth Games. Is there nothing that he cannot do?
YM-Mundrabilla
Doesn't let any sh1t stick. A master a letting it hit the deserving target.
  BaysideManny Assistant Commissioner

Victoria feels like East Germany more and more each day.
You really do make some silly statements. What was your experience in East Germany?
Valvegear
A nation state that ceased to exist in 1990.


Mannie
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Dry worrying for Victoria is Jacinta Allan expected to be Daniels new deputy snd is expected to take the top job at some point.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line

Victoria feels like East Germany more and more each day.
Carnot

I'll watch out for the Stasi when I arrive at SCS this morning and those Trabants don't have good brakes, if they get to go fast enough to actually need them. Smile

M.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Victoria feels like East Germany more and more each day.
You really do make some silly statements. What was your experience in East Germany?
Valvegear
I had relatives who visited the place in the late-1980s. It was decrepit, your neighbours and relatives dobbed you in to the police if you stepped out-of-line, and many people hated 'the Socialist paradise' and its Government.  They were insecure control-freaks.

I've also travelled through most of Eastern Europe for work in the 2000s.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Given that the choice is between "Dictator Dan" and "Lobster with a Mobster" I'll take my chances with the former and hope Vic Labor changes faces either now or in four years to freshen it up.

The Victorian Liberal Party is done and dusted, much like NSW Labor (although apparently NSW is finally getting sick of the Liberals now that the federal LNP has showed its true side). Fool us once (1955-1972), shame on you. Fool us twice (1992-1999), shame on us. It might have been a different story if the election was right in the middle of the 2021 lockdowns when people were forced out of work and couldn't leave their suburb unless it was to go to Colesworths, the servo or the bottle shop (but not after 9PM because the COVID boogeyman apparently only comes out at night).
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Chris Minns, the leader of the NSW ALP seems pretty good compared to the recent disasters.

The new SA premier likewise.

But Dan (insecure), Anna P (increasingly corrupt), and McGowan (Dan Mk2) seem to be losing the plot.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
It seems that, no matter when, or how many, Ministers choose to retire from politics, it's always a shock-horror-impending disaster event. People who can't help themselves will look for any possible criticism, reasonable or not. These former Ministers have given ample time before the November election for their replacements to settle in. Would the critics prefer them to have been re-elected and then quit? When would be the "right time" to go? Why not now?
Answers on the back of a postcard please.
P.S. The convoluted posturings of the loony right Carnot will be ignored. Hopefully he will make one too many accusations of corruption one day, and be sued to the back teeth for defamation.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Similar to my earlier message to your mate the Representative from SA, you are entitled to your opinions etc…

It’s astounding how some people hate progressive governments. Victoria has led the country in social democratic progression, sorry… not sorry some posters and representative from SA can’t keep up.
The Murdoch media being the worst. Now we have those RWNJ’s in the US… supported of course by the living corpse himself telling women what they can do with their bodies.

Beggars belief Exclamation

Edited to remove the word ‘Idiot’.

M.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I'm not afraid of defo. Let the facts speak for themselves.  Something's is rotten and it goes straight to the top of the current State Govt:





And in Qld:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-23/labor-mps-legal-costs-pccc-jackie-trad-meeting/101176362
  BaysideManny Assistant Commissioner

@Carnot Yes this needs to be investigated. But if you taking anything that David Davis says as evidence you really need your head read.

The Coalition would want to start getting someone decent in their cabinet to sway me from that as bad as Dan Andrews maybe, the Coalition with Peter Dwyer, George Crozier, Bernie Finn and David Davis would be far worse.

Mannie
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Bernie Finn has left the Liberal Party.   Keep up.
  BaysideManny Assistant Commissioner

@Donald Oh good. Good riddance. The Opposition cabinets average IQ has increased. Still leaves a pretty rubbish Opposition.

Mannie
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

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