What were the reasons for building the Heathrow Express line when Heathrow Airport was already being served by the Picadilly line of the London Underground? Would it have been cheaper to upgrade the Picadilly line?I have travelled the tube to Heathrow. It was slow and a challenge with my luggage. Heathrow Express is designed for people that are willing to pay for a shorter travel time in carriages designed for them.
To provide a faster connection to the mainline rail network?
Piccadilly Line is a deep-level tube line which would be prohibitively expensive to expand to a mainline loading gauge.
It is really coming into its own now that it is also served by Elizabeth Line trains providing more effective connections in London with the future Old Oak Common Interchange to only improve it further.
So slow on the Piccadilly line, stopping all stations.So expensive. - $60 (paddington express) instead of $10 (kings cross SAS). for 15min instead of 55
So expensive. - $60 (paddington express) instead of $10 (kings cross SAS). for 15min instead of 55But now there are also Elizabeth Line trains using the mainline connection as well as Heathrow Express, offering modern fit-for-purpose EMUs and direct connections to GWML, Thameslink, GEML, DLR etc
Yep Elizabeth too. Still being dictated by where in London you want to go.So expensive. - $60 (paddington express) instead of $10 (kings cross SAS). for 15min instead of 55But now there are also Elizabeth Line trains using the mainline connection as well as Heathrow Express, offering modern fit-for-purpose EMUs and direct connections to GWML, Thameslink, GEML, DLR etc
Previously, the mainline connection also had cheaper Heathrow Connect trains which stopped at a handful of mainline stations from Heathrow to Paddington.
PS Piccadilly train are all being replaced, starting next year. Faster, open ganģway, bigger doors, more pax and AIR CON, 36tph is the goal.
Seems much the same. Pile up your bags at the Disabled spot next to the door.
PS Piccadilly train are all being replaced, starting next year. Faster, open ganģway, bigger doors, more pax and AIR CON, 36tph is the goal.
-justarider
Any room for airport luggage? The other hassle with the Piccadilly line is taking luggage with you, especially coming out of London when the trains can be busy.
The Piccadilly Line is above ground from Barons Court which is in Inner London. One stop west (Piccadilly) or two stops west (District) of Earls Court.To provide a faster connection to the mainline rail network?
Piccadilly Line is a deep-level tube line which would be prohibitively expensive to expand to a mainline loading gauge.
It is really coming into its own now that it is also served by Elizabeth Line trains providing more effective connections in London with the future Old Oak Common Interchange to only improve it further.
The Piccadilly Line is above ground once you get out of London area and get closer to the airport.
So slow on the Piccadilly line, stopping all stations.Yes, but remember, the Piccadilly Line was a mere extension from Hounslow West. It was never purpose built.
What were the reasons for building the Heathrow Express line when Heathrow Airport was already being served by the Picadilly line of the London Underground? Would it have been cheaper to upgrade the Picadilly line?The Piccadilly Line was extended to Heathrow from Hounslow West, a mere 3 or so miles away. Primarily to have Heathrow be served by rail. There was always going to be main line express services serving the Airport, to rival that of Gatwick Airport, a somewhat smaller airport, that was served by express services to Victoria.
So slow on the Piccadilly line, stopping all stations.So expensive. - $60 (paddington express) instead of $10 (kings cross SAS). for 15min instead of 55
And when you're just at Paddington you need to pay another $10 , and another 30min, on the Underground to where you really want to be.
Just depends whereabouts in London you are going to.
Stopping the same 7 locals as the previous Heathrowe Coňnect. So you chose cheap & slow, or pay more. Easy decision for individual circumstance.Yep Elizabeth too. Still being dictated by where in London you want to go.So expensive. - $60 (paddington express) instead of $10 (kings cross SAS). for 15min instead of 55But now there are also Elizabeth Line trains using the mainline connection as well as Heathrow Express, offering modern fit-for-purpose EMUs and direct connections to GWML, Thameslink, GEML, DLR etc
Previously, the mainline connection also had cheaper Heathrow Connect trains which stopped at a handful of mainline stations from Heathrow to Paddington.
30min $15.
Stopping the same 7 locals as the previous Heathrowe Coňnect. So you chose cheap & slow, or pay more. Easy decision for individual circumstance.
Shoulda mentioned, Piccadilly is 3min headway. The others 15min
PS Piccadilly train are all being replaced, starting next year. Faster, open ganģway, bigger doors, more pax and AIR CON, 36tph is the goal.
Not all 36tph will go to Heathrow. At least 12tph will serve Rayners Lane and Uxbridge.Yep Elizabeth too. Still being dictated by where in London you want to go.So expensive. - $60 (paddington express) instead of $10 (kings cross SAS). for 15min instead of 55But now there are also Elizabeth Line trains using the mainline connection as well as Heathrow Express, offering modern fit-for-purpose EMUs and direct connections to GWML, Thameslink, GEML, DLR etc
Previously, the mainline connection also had cheaper Heathrow Connect trains which stopped at a handful of mainline stations from Heathrow to Paddington.
30min $15.
Stopping the same 7 locals as the previous Heathrowe Coňnect. So you chose cheap & slow, or pay more. Easy decision for individual circumstance.
Shoulda mentioned, Piccadilly is 3min headway. The others 15min
PS Piccadilly train are all being replaced, starting next year. Faster, open ganģway, bigger doors, more pax and AIR CON, 36tph is the goal.