Train of Knowledge?

 
  VICBLUE Locomotive Fireman

Location: Sydney Australia
Hi all,

What made up the Train of Knowledge?

Many thanks,

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  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
5 to 6 ex-V&SAR joint stock E car sleepers.  Usually one of Wando, Loddon, Pekina, Acheron, Inman, or Coliban.
Carey - converted from a C van to a shower car.
Avoca or Moorabool set up as dining area and classroom.
Melville (formerly State Car 2) which was converted to a powervan in the 1950's.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
.......And usually hauled by a 'T' Class loco, so no speed records were ever set... 8)

The Vinelander.
  old-wombat Station Master

I used the Train of Knowledge in the early 1980s. The consist included a gutted BCPL(?) which we could have used as a class room. I dounbt if either Moorabool or Avoca would have been suitable.

Generally a slow trip, but on the return we had a B class from Bendigo to Melbourne.

From my memory the route we took was:

Spencer St. Geelong Ballarat (visit Sovereign Hill) Maryborough, Castlemaine, Bendigo (Overnight)
Swan Hill (Overnight - local excursions)
Bendigo (2 x Overnight - local excursions)
Castlemaine (Local excursions - train left on main line for about 3 hours)
Melbourne.

Originally we were t-tabled to go from Maryborough to Bridgewater (overnight) but some loca event stopped that.

Very enjoyable, but very expoensive for the kids.
  MEASWELL Locomotive Driver

Location: werribee/tullamarine
we did the train of knowledge back in 1969....i was so much younger then, it consisted of old overland sleepers (i think...it's a bit hazy) hauled by a T class
went from the old Galvin station near Altona down to Geelong Warrnambool  
Hamilton over the old cross country line about 3 hours to do 60 miles
Ararat
ballarat
then back via Geelong
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
By the way, what exactly was the Train of Knowledge? Confused
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
I used the Train of Knowledge in the early 1980s. The consist included a gutted BCPL(?) which we could have used as a class room. I dounbt if either Moorabool or Avoca would have been suitable.
"old-wombat"

I thought Moorabool was the classroom. It had been gutted and was painted in that horrible ToK red which weathered badly (and the roof paint which ran down the red sides!).

After the ToK ceased running it was used a lot as a dance car.

Cheers
David
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
By the way, what exactly was the Train of Knowledge?
"wongm"
Basically the ToK was a mobile school camp.  It would go around the state with one or several schools ensconsed in the sleeping cars (with a capacity of 120 students, teachers and staff if all six sleepers were used). Showering and eating facilities were provided on the train.  Moorabool was used as a classroom, and children were taken to locations of historical interest.

It would travel around rural Victoria for two to three days.  

The VR/VLine/PTC ran it until 1989, when most of the collection was preserved.  SRHC ended up with the majority of the ex-ToK cars, and did run some ToK specials, the last one in 2004.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
It would travel around rural Victoria for two to three days.  
The VR/VLine/PTC ran it until 1989, when most of the collection was preserved.  SRHC ended up with the majority of the ex-ToK cars, and did run some ToK specials, the last one in 2004.
"ninthnotch"


The only problem with trying to run a version of the ToK these days is so many branch lines are closed, suspended or different gauge... Rolling Eyes

Can anybody confirm if the ToK was a Sir Harold Clapp initiative?

The Vinelander.

PS, VICBLUE as you appear to be in Los Angeles atm, would you like to share with us your, if any, outings on LA metro, Caltrain or Amtrak whilst you've been over there?
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
It originated in the late 1960's/early 1970's - 1969 seems like a familiar date.

The last one went to Echuca via Toolamba.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Thanks Ninthnotch, so it wasn't in existence as long as I thought..

The Vinelander.
  mattrawls Chief Train Controller

Location: Newport Workshops (Steamrail)
DavidB Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:38 pm

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old-wombat wrote:  
I used the Train of Knowledge in the early 1980s. The consist included a gutted BCPL(?) which we could have used as a class room. I dounbt if either Moorabool or Avoca would have been suitable.  

I thought Moorabool was the classroom. It had been gutted and was painted in that horrible ToK red which weathered badly (and the roof paint which ran down the red sides!).

After the ToK ceased running it was used a lot as a dance car.

Cheers
David


Correct Moorabool was on the train of knowledge.
Steamrail got it and used it as its dance car before converting it into a club car/dance car.
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
Steamrail got it and used it as its dance car before converting it into a club car/dance car.
"mattrawls"

It was used as a dance car in the late 1980s. There was a company that used to charter dance trains in the late 80s/early 90s using a mix of V/Line and Steamrail cars hauled by V/Line locos. It was typically Moorabool, Murray (minus tables and used as a bar), CE and CW. This was before Steamrail got Moorabool or the Ts.

Cheers
David
  mjja Sir Nigel Gresley

Location: Mount Waverley, Melbourne
Yes it was a Clapp initiative.

There was a Newsrail article about it some time in the 90s... sorry I can't be more specific.
  Riccardo Minister for Railways

Location: Gone. Don't bother PMing here.
Yes it was a Clapp initiative.

There was a Newsrail article about it some time in the 90s... sorry I can't be more specific.
"mjja"


And did they run trains to Rutherglen under the name of Rutherglen Red?
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
.......And usually hauled by a 'T' Class loco, so no speed records were ever set... 8)
"The Vinelander"


On one occasion in the early 80's it was hauled by B80 in V/Line livery.  Smile
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
It's also been hauled by X and N class locos.  


Train of Knowledge at Longwarry in its final months of operation.

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