Electric Rails

 
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
In a old booklet I have it says DVR had a third middle rail that supplied electricity for electric locos simmilar to electric locos in England were originally.
David in particular do you have any photos or more informaton about this?

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  350M-1196T-691M Chief Commissioner

Location: Eastern Suburbs, Melbourne
Sounds like quite a good idea infact, never know, might be something to look into...
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
There is a privatley owned line somewhere in victoria that is 7 1/4' that has overhead wires!
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
That would be interesting! The wires must be pretty high then  Laughing
  K163 Chief Commissioner

Location: Well you see that house over there? Well it's not that one.
That would be interesting! The wires must be pretty high then  Laughing
"CMRPS"
I wonder what the loco's would've looked like with the tall panto's!  Laughing
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
i believe its up your way Matthew it has a web page or it did but i accidently delated it from my Favorites ages ago and can't find it.
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
Well that's very interesting. Hang on, I think I know now!

There was a man who lived near Lake Weeroona who had a small tramway. I'm sure it had overhead wires. I was lucky enough to get a ride on it!!  Razz
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
That sounds like it i think it was two blokes and they were building a 2 foot electic line inbetween their properties including crossing the 7 1/4 ' line.
Did you get any pics.
  cfclael57 Chief Commissioner

Location: The signalbox
In a old booklet I have it says DVR had a third middle rail that supplied electricity for electric locos simmilar to electric locos in England were originally.
David in particular do you have any photos or more informaton about this?
"Sammy D"


Sam,
If you go to DVR's carriage sheds at the entrance, there is still some third rail left, it is the only example of it left on the railway. Apparently it was bad because you could get an electric shock from it which ain't good.
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
Did you get any pics.
"Sammy D"


Afraid not. I can't even remember how old I was. The house it was at has been sold and the only reminders are a section of track still in the concrete driveway  Sad
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Did you get any pics.
"Sammy D"


Afraid not. I can't even remember how old I was. The house it was at has been sold and the only reminders are a section of track still in the concrete driveway  Sad
"CMRPS"


Oh well thats a shame. maybe ill talk to some of the sparks fans at DVR and see wehat i can find.
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
In a old booklet I have it says DVR had a third middle rail that supplied electricity for electric locos simmilar to electric locos in England were originally.
David in particular do you have any photos or more informaton about this?
"Sammy D"


Sam,
If you go to DVR's carriage sheds at the entrance, there is still some third rail left, it is the only example of it left on the railway. Apparently it was bad because you could get an electric shock from it which ain't good.
"NR57"


Ill have a closer look wensday and I don't think many people would have liked getting a shock.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
DVR's third rail was a 2-4 year experiment that never took off in popularity. The main reason it was discontinued was in a derailment, if the wheels of your loco or arrriage made contact weith the third rail, you had the shorted voltage and current pass through your bearings, stuffing them, evne welding them solid !!

Apart from the usual hazards of having a live rail  where passemgers could step on, or touch - it isn't such a good idea in our scale. Especially in this day and age. Yes it was 2-4 years in the setting up, and one weekend to remove it.

Most of East Yards and the station roads were done. The plan was to do the Inner Circle and a section out of Rocla tunnel. Onlt one loco was fitted with a 3rd railshoe, ERT II .

Jack & Dene Rutledge were the mainstay's of the project and put alot of hard work and hours. They are to be commended for their efforts.

As said there is a tiny piece in the carriage shed at Diamond Valley of the third rail, used to hold a checkrail in place now.

On the other matter John Becket who unfortunatly passed away last year had ties with both DVR and Box Hill.  I believe he was into Trams and had a few  running ones under the wire, and around his house in Bendigo - which onbe of the poster's commented on.  He also owned THUNDERCHILD, a  0-6-2 tank narrow gauge outline loco which you sat in the "rear bunker" to drive. It spent alot of time at Box Hill before  it moved on, but returned under it's new Owners.

It has been unde rthe new owners to several Miniature railways, Hairyman saw it at Wagga last year teaming up with Y121. Think of Pauline
with tanks etc - it is of that style and size of loco.

Regards,
David Head
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Thanks david thought you would have all the answers
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Thanks david thought you would have all the answers
"Sammy D"


I do not have all the answers, just remember bits.......   Laughing

Regards,
David Head
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Ah your to modest david Wink
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Ah your to modest david Wink
"Sammy D"



Well  don't even give me the tiniest of encouragment!
As for you Sam you are also a dedicated DVR member with tons of knowledge, and your posts exceed mine by 3:1 !!!!!!



Back on topic:

DVR generally found eletric traction was safer by the tried an true use of battery powered. Good batteries have served the Taits, 2001, the Doggies and E1103 well.

Regards,
David Head
  Sammy D Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Yeah the batteries work really well. the doggies batteries are 10 years old.
  Hairyman Chief Train Controller

Location: Corowa, NSW, Australia


Hairyman saw it at Wagga last year teaming up with Y121. Think of Pauline
with tanks etc - it is of that style and size of loco.

Regards,
David Head
"dthead"


What exactly did i see? i don't remember Y121 teaming up with anything at Wagga when i was there on the Saturday. Pics?
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia


Hairyman saw it at Wagga last year teaming up with Y121. Think of Pauline
with tanks etc - it is of that style and size of loco.

Regards,
David Head
"dthead"


What exactly did i see? i don't remember Y121 teaming up with anything at Wagga when i was there on the Saturday. Pics?
"Hairyman"


You must have got on when they were not playing around... The steam loco THUNDERCHILD was a partner for a unoffical XPT or as a banker  depending on how one looks at a loco each end of a train, with both working, or one being just a bit of load.

Perhaps it wasn't when you were there. I'm still worried about the footage you may have taken while I were driving !!!!


As to Pictures, stay tuned.......

Rehards,
David Head
  Hairyman Chief Train Controller

Location: Corowa, NSW, Australia
don't worry about the footage i took while we rode around the track, it was mostly of your back anyways, just be warry of those steam loco driver's that don't know what they are doing with the staff..............

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