Car Set SN7 to enter service this week

 
  stinky Station Master

Car Set SN7 (Consist from the East End ACN21-BS215-BS218-BS216-BS219-BS217) will be transferred from Newport Shops to Southern Cross on Thursday 30th August. It will enter into service on Thursday running on the 1655 Marshall and returning to Southern Cross on the 0747 ex South Geelong weekdays. The set will be stabled at Geelong overnight and on weekends.

For those who would like the info it will seat 372 passengers, weighs 280 tonnes and is 136.8 metres in length.

stinky

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  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Thanks allot for that Stinky!  Very Happy  I will have to get some photos!!  Very Happy
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Your town.
Car Set SN7 (Consist from the East End ACN21-BS215-BS218-BS216-BS219-BS217)
"stinky"


Can I ask a silly, pedantic question?

Why couldn't the BS cars be placed in numerical order?
  dalts 1985 Banned

Location: Banned
Car Set SN7 (Consist from the East End ACN21-BS215-BS218-BS216-BS219-BS217)
"stinky"


Can I ask a silly, pedantic question?

Why couldn't the BS cars be placed in numerical order?
"DirtyBallast"


The main reason being 3 of the 5 BS's have Marine Retention Tank Toliets fitted, the other 2 don't & their permaently sealed off!

This it's desired the set will be:
ACN21 (Toliet fitted as per normal N Car)
BS: (No Toilet usable/sealed off)
BS: (Marine Rentention Toliet Fitted)
BS: (No Toilet usable/sealed off)
BS: (Marine Rentention Toliet Fitted)
BS: (Marine Rentention Toliet Fitted)

Well, I'd think it would be done like that, but time will tell... Just have to wait till the set comes out in revenue service to see if we have the consist marshalling right...

http://www.vicsig.net/passenger/photos/20070825-nps-acn21.jpg Thanks to Vicsig for use of this image...
  vlinecars V/Man - "Yeah!"

Location: Here, there, everywhere!
I'd say it is (the car order in the set)! Stinky knows what his on about!


Great that its transferred and first running on Thursday - I only have morning classes, which means I might be able to get down to see the transfer, and almost definitely will be able to ride on board its first run Very Happy

Woo hoo!


Also, believe there might be some other transfers happening this week  Wink
  rollo_100 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Geelong, Victoria
when it says the carriage is a compartment type... what exactly does that mean?
  stinky Station Master



Also, believe there might be some other transfers happening this week  Wink
"vlinecars"


This transfer still may not happen due to driver availability. At this stage though it is expected that it will take place on Thursday. If FSH25 is transferred back to Southern Cross this week it will not be re-entering service immediately. I don't know the reason why so I won't assume.

stinky
  Nexas The Ghost of George Stephenson

when it says the carriage is a compartment type... what exactly does that mean?
"rollo_100"


Think of it as a carriage with several seperate rooms, each seating about 6 people. The walkway is down one side of the car, and each room has a door to keep unwanted people out.
  rollo_100 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Thats so very weird!
Last week me and friend both mentioned that we missed those trains, and they were really good when you had a group of friends, but quite annoying when some random decided to take the last seat!!

Can't wait for this train to return, and even more lucky that this is the service i catch every day Smile
  Craig Chief Commissioner

Location: Edithvale, VIC
when it says the carriage is a compartment type... what exactly does that mean?
"rollo_100"


Think of it as a carriage with several seperate rooms, each seating about 6 people.
"Nexas"


Each compartment seats 8 from memory.

and each room has a door to keep unwanted people out.
"Nexas"


Reminds me of the BS Cars trip to Swan Hill.  Razz

Kind Regards


Craig Smile
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

If three BS's have retention toilets then makeup will surely be  Loco, BS*,BS,BS*,BS,BS*,ACN . They would have only done two BS with toilet if train were to be marshalled  BS,BS*,BS,BS*,BS,ACN .  (* Car with toilet.)
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

Location:
Why are some toilets sealed off? Is it because they are of the old style; when you smeg, the smeg falls on to the tracks?
  Jason R Chief Commissioner

Location: Socialist People's Republic of Yarra.
Why are some toilets sealed off? Is it because they are of the old style; when you smeg, the smeg falls on to the tracks?
"alstom_888m"

Yes. S cars did not originally have retention toilets.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
It will enter into service on Thursday running on the 1655 Marshall and returning to Southern Cross on the 0747 ex South Geelong weekdays.
"stinky"
Replacing a VN set IIRC? (Or an FN?) Anyway, I'm assuming there were be a 'cascading' of rosters, with the displaced set getting put onto the roster of an overcrowded smaller set, and so on. Or a retiming of the timetable, the displaced set replacing a VLocity run, with those displaced cars split up and added to other runs.

Either way - some mornings I might end up catching the set, or wait for the Warrnambool train and possible BCZs. Twisted Evil

Great that its transferred and first running on Thursday - I only have morning classes, which means I might be able to get down to see the transfer, and almost definitely will be able to ride on board its first run Very Happy
"vlinecars"
Same situation for me - if there transfer is in the arvo I'm fine, but have to work that night.
  vlinecars V/Man - "Yeah!"

Location: Here, there, everywhere!
It will enter into service on Thursday running on the 1655 Marshall and returning to Southern Cross on the 0747 ex South Geelong weekdays.
"stinky"
Replacing a VN set IIRC? (Or an FN?) Anyway, I'm assuming there were be a 'cascading' of rosters, with the displaced set getting put onto the roster of an overcrowded smaller set, and so on. Or a retiming of the timetable, the displaced set replacing a VLocity run, with those displaced cars split up and added to other runs.

Either way - some mornings I might end up catching the set, or wait for the Warrnambool train and possible BCZs. Twisted Evil
"wongm"


SN7 is replacing a VN set run, freeing up a VN set.

I'll work out any major changes etc. sometime soon!


Great that its transferred and first running on Thursday - I only have morning classes, which means I might be able to get down to see the transfer, and almost definitely will be able to ride on board its first run Very Happy
"vlinecars"
Same situation for me - if there transfer is in the arvo I'm fine, but have to work that night.[/quote]

Should be in the afternoon, most transfers usually are.
  aussiebbq Assistant Commissioner

Location: Ballarat, Australia
wow BS are back, I use to ride them all the time back in the WCR days, it will be good to do that again.

but if the SN is replacing a FN where others cars from that set?

N = N type cars
S = Six cars or S type cars (maybe both)

Regards
  vlinecars V/Man - "Yeah!"

Location: Here, there, everywhere!
Replacing a N set, three car N set N7, which was involved in the Kerang tragedy.

ACN21 got off unscathed, the other two cars, BRN20 & BN19, are damaged - the BRN worse off than the BN.

Big shortage of sets has resulted in the return of BS cars and ACN21 to create this scratch set as such.

SN - stinky might be able clarify its actual meaning, I'd say Six car N set myself. Under the current convention, it would be in line like that.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
I wonder how long until SN7 meets up with N460 again...
  vlinecars V/Man - "Yeah!"

Location: Here, there, everywhere!
I have a feeling that may not happen.
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

Location:
I have a feeling that may not happen.
"vlinecars"

Superstitious?  Shocked
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

The VN set that is released what happens as result of the cascade ? Is it left intact or is altered to create more 4 car N sets ? What are the impacts in terms of addressing capacity problems on VLP ? As a result of returning the 5 BS cars to service the net gain is 3 cars and 166 Economy seats . (The calculation is  plus  5 BS cars less  1 x BRN damaged less  1 x BN damaged = net gain of 3 cars . Less 154 Econ seats in damaged cars, offset by 320 seats in 5 x BS (=320 seats) = net gain 166 seats. )
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

Chris Gordan has got a photo on Vicsig relating to this http://www.vicsig.net/photo.php?filename=20070825-nps-acn21.jpg
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
I think it is time for V/Line to bite the bullet and part with some $ and get some new passenger cars. If they plan on using loco hauled for the next 15 to 20 years, as I have been told, they need some new gear.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

I think it is time for V/Line to bite the bullet and part with some $ and get some new passenger cars. If they plan on using loco hauled for the next 15 to 20 years, as I have been told, they need some new gear.
"Shacks"


I don't see what is wrong with running loco services. I mean if they get people where they want to go in comfort why not let them stay.

I'm a big fan of V/Line loco hauled passenger services. It would be a real pitty to se them go though.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Your town.
Firstly, thanks dalts for making sense of what seemed an odd arrangement. I didn't know that BS cars were so old fashioned, but it stands to reason I guess. I never used to ride in BS cars as a youngster, but ahhh, the memories of flushing a toilet in an old red rattler car and seeing the track below! Not to mention the temptation of letting one go as you pass through a station, despite the affixed label warning passengers against such a heinous crime!

I think it is time for V/Line to bite the bullet and part with some $ and get some new passenger cars. If they plan on using loco hauled for the next 15 to 20 years, as I have been told, they need some new gear.
"Shacks"


I don't see what is wrong with running loco services. I mean if they get people where they want to go in comfort why not let them stay.

I'm a big fan of V/Line loco hauled passenger services. It would be a real pitty to se them go though.
"vlocity160"


IMHO it's a gimme that in the medium term N Sets will provide all the long distance runs, with both types of railcar doing the rest. There are still services from the Geelong region, Traralgon, Bacchus Marsh and Sunbury catered for by N Sets. Those, and all the H Sets, should be replaced by new V/locities or existing Sprinters. The V/Locities could do the Traralgon/Geelong region/Seymour runs and Sprinters would do Stony Point/Bacchus Marsh/Sunbury. This would free up enough N Sets to cover the losses as they occur through retirement of the older cars (remembering that structurally, the BTN's and BZN's are not much younger than the BS cars), the re-retirement of the BS cars, and hopefully, to provide an N Set for the Echuca run. Again though, all in my humble opinion.

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