Level Crossings that have, will or should be removed

 
  steveo2004 Chief Commissioner

The Bentleigh crossing should go, not naming schools but the O.L.S.H girls are still crossing while gates are shut, I called O.L.S.H and told them that I had seen 5 of there students cross the tracks and all O.L.S.H can say is "well teens will be teens you know"

it'sa not OLSH but other people are doing it as well

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  SteamtoStay Chief Commissioner

Location: Building floorplates
The Bentleigh crossing should go, not naming schools but the O.L.S.H girls are still crossing while gates are shut, I called O.L.S.H and told them that I had seen 5 of there students cross the tracks and all O.L.S.H can say is "well teens will be teens you know"

it's not OLSH but other people are doing it as well
"steveo2004"

Is that a legal issue? Could the school, by inaction, be liable in any way, should something happen again?

Also, my father got a copy of the official report, including the stuff about grade-separation, and one thing that he said was missing, was a rail-equivalent of a 'lollipop' person! Sounds stupid at first, but I reckon it's better than nothing... (Maybe have two, one for each side?)
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
I noticed the thread title includes level crossing that have been removed.
These ones have all been grade separated since my oldest Melway was printed -
Broadmeadows - Camp & Johnstons Rd  in the 70's
Millers Road near former Paisley station around 1973
Westernport Hwy near former Lyndhurst station
Watsonia - Watsonia Rd & Vesy/Nell St
Tottenham - Ashley St
Darling - Moira St  
Box Hill - Station St
Laburnum - Middleborough Rd
Boronia - Dorset & Boronia Rds
Westall - Westall Rd
Kananook - Wells Rd
Frankston - Beach St
Narre Warren - Cranbourne-Narre Warren Rd
  Alphabet Train Controller

Location: Moonee Ponds
The Bentleigh crossing should go, not naming schools but the O.L.S.H girls are still crossing while gates are shut, I called O.L.S.H and told them that I had seen 5 of there students cross the tracks and all O.L.S.H can say is "well teens will be teens you know"

it's not OLSH but other people are doing it as well
"steveo2004"

Is that a legal issue? Could the school, by inaction, be liable in any way, should something happen again?
"SteamtoStay"
Short of openly encouraging their students to flout the laws (which they would never do), no they couldn't be liable. They can ram home the safety message until the cows come home- but in the end it is up to the students to obey the laws, just as it is up to anyone else to obey the laws.
  Alphabet Train Controller

Location: Moonee Ponds
I noticed the thread title includes level crossing that have been removed.
These ones have all been grade separated since my oldest Melway was printed -
Broadmeadows - Camp & Johnstons Rd  in the 70's
Millers Road near former Paisley station around 1973
Westernport Hwy near former Lyndhurst station
Watsonia - Watsonia Rd & Vesy/Nell St
Tottenham - Ashley St
Darling - Moira St  
Box Hill - Station St
Laburnum - Middleborough Rd
Boronia - Dorset & Boronia Rds
Westall - Westall Rd
Kananook - Wells Rd
Frankston - Beach St
Narre Warren - Cranbourne-Narre Warren Rd
"Gauntlet"


In addition to these, at least three crossings on the Upfield line were closed, not grade seperated, around 1997-99:

Barkly Street, Jewell
Tinning Street, near Anstey
Shorts Road, near Merlynston

The former two were hand-held gate crossings up to their closure but Shorts Road had been automated around 1990 I believe, which makes its closure a little unusual- from what I have heard it was only a moderately busy road when the crossng existed but no less so than say Reynard Street, which was kept.

Dug this up in the Moreland council archives regarding Shorts Road:

http://www.moreland.vic.gov.au/archives/mr291098.htm

Certainly, it appears the decision to close that crossing was far from a popular one with some people.

I believe the Pheonix Street level crossing, between Brunswick and Jewell, was closed considerably earlier, as I have seen a 1984 Melways and the crossing doesn't exist even in that- but hand held gates still exist on-site today.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The Bentleigh crossing should go, not naming schools but the O.L.S.H girls are still crossing while gates are shut, I called O.L.S.H and told them that I had seen 5 of there students cross the tracks and all O.L.S.H can say is "well teens will be teens you know"

it's not OLSH but other people are doing it as well
"steveo2004"

Is that a legal issue? Could the school, by inaction, be liable in any way, should something happen again?

Also, my father got a copy of the official report, including the stuff about grade-separation, and one thing that he said was missing, was a rail-equivalent of a 'lollipop' person! Sounds stupid at first, but I reckon it's better than nothing... (Maybe have two, one for each side?)
"SteamtoStay"


Actually that is a good idea -Railway crossing people for school times. Why should Roadusers get them to ensure the school children. Why not Rail ?

After all The roads are not the schools worry either, yet there are all these people helping them cross the roads.

Of course the job would be very different, and without school      
co-operation hard to enforce (I am sure short of having some deterent they would ignore these people unless they were police, or could get them into trouble at school). Equip then with video cameras to tape the mistameaners....and cars as may be the case if they saw such a incident.
- and yes only for school times.

I would assume they would just try to stop the "hords"  when train come, whistle when the train is past and safe to let the masses across. Mind you I do not know of the exisiting lollipop people get training, but these potential Railpop people would need to understand some Railway Lineside Awareness stuff.

Regards,
David Head
  Nexas The Ghost of George Stephenson

The Bentleigh crossing should go, not naming schools but the O.L.S.H girls are still crossing while gates are shut,
"steveo2004"


You named a school. Rolling Eyes


it'sa not OLSH but other people are doing it as well
"steveo2004"


You just said it was?
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
Reservoir
  drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
I was quite capable of crossing the road when I was in primary school and usually just ignored the lollipop person anyway - do you really think that high school idiots that cross the rail tracks when a train is coming would pay any attention to lollipop ladies?

AOs = perhaps - large pacific islander men with the powers to beat them smeg if they do anything wrong = yes. But I wouldn't advocate that - wouldn't mind seeing AOs there fining everybody who does it though.
  Ummagumma Junior Train Controller

Location: Junction, Rosstown and Oakleigh lines
Definitely the string of crossings between Caulfield and Oakleigh: Grange Rd, Koornang Rd, Murrumbeena Rd and Poath Rd. At the moment all traffic heading north from Murrumbeena, Carnegie, Hughesdale, Bentleigh, East Bentleigh, and all suburbs to the south, have to cross a level crossing to reach Dandenong Rd and the Monash Freeway. They can be trapped behind the line when Things Go Bad ... boom gate faults, death on tracks that bring trains to halt, etc.

The Dandenong line already carries suburban, freight and V/Line traffic. When the third line is built between Caulfield and Springvale it will only increase the number of services going through the crossings and causing gates to stay down longer.

Since Brumby's coffers seem to be spilling over with excess cash -- an $842 million surplus, I figure he has a bit of dough to spend on it. They've so far allocated a piffling $35 million to the project, with no commitment at all to grade seps.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
For the multiple projects thing, something I've been thinking about for a while.

For example, instead of just doing Bentleigh crossing, how about hiring more crews, and sinking the entire line from Ormond to Bentleigh crossing.
"SteamtoStay"

SteamtoStay your idea is going to cause some ENORMOUS traffic jams during some of the projects:!:
"Gauntlet"

In 1915 the quadruplication and regrading of South Yarra to Caufield was done, in the 1920s Hawthorn to Camberwell was regraded to eliminate all crossings, and in the 1950s the entire Richmond station was rebuilt.

It is possible, but it is only the road drivers who get screwed over. Twisted Evil
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
Definitely the string of crossings between Caulfield and Oakleigh: Grange Rd, Koornang Rd, Murrumbeena Rd and Poath Rd. At the moment all traffic heading north from Murrumbeena, Carnegie, Hughesdale, Bentleigh, East Bentleigh, and all suburbs to the south, have to cross a level crossing to reach Dandenong Rd and the Monash Freeway. They can be trapped behind the line when Things Go Bad ... boom gate faults, death on tracks that bring trains to halt, etc.

The Dandenong line already carries suburban, freight and V/Line traffic. When the third line is built between Caulfield and Springvale it will only increase the number of services going through the crossings and causing gates to stay down longer.

Since Brumby's coffers seem to be spilling over with excess cash -- an $842 million surplus, I figure he has a bit of dough to spend on it. They've so far allocated a piffling $35 million to the project, with no commitment at all to grade seps.
"Ummagumma"

I would go as far as to say that without grade separation of all crossings between Caulfield and Springvale, the triplication project (which should be quad to Springvale) will be a complete failure.

Trains should be passing through this section so frequently the booms are almost constantly down.  If not, why are we amplifying in the first place?  And if the booms are constantly down, north-south traffic flow would become severely disrupted.

For the multiple projects thing, something I've been thinking about for a while.

For example, instead of just doing Bentleigh crossing, how about hiring more crews, and sinking the entire line from Ormond to Bentleigh crossing.
"SteamtoStay"

SteamtoStay your idea is going to cause some ENORMOUS traffic jams during some of the projects:!:
"Gauntlet"

In 1915 the quadruplication and regrading of South Yarra to Caufield was done, in the 1920s Hawthorn to Camberwell was regraded to eliminate all crossings, and in the 1950s the entire Richmond station was rebuilt.

It is possible, but it is only the road drivers who get screwed over. Twisted Evil
"wongm"

What SteamtoStay says makes complete sense.  Many of the level crossings are so close together that the works for one might lead over the where the works for another would take place (some are so close that two or more must occur at once).

It makes sense to do many crossings at once, rather than return in a few years and conduct works over parts that were relaid/graded in a previous project.  Of course, the closure of each crossing would need to be staggered, to avoid traffic chaos.
  Haydenthegunzel Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Furlong Road near Ginifer
  samtrezise Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
Noble park, Nunawadding, springvale, berwick and if they reopen the cranbourne line to leongatha or cranbourne east, South gippsland hwy.
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
Furlong Road near Ginifer
"Haydenthegunzel"

Main Road, St Albans should take precedence over this one, despite what local reactionaries may think.
  SteamtoStay Chief Commissioner

Location: Building floorplates
For the multiple projects thing, something I've been thinking about for a while.

For example, instead of just doing Bentleigh crossing, how about hiring more crews, and sinking the entire line from Ormond to Bentleigh crossing.
"SteamtoStay"

SteamtoStay your idea is going to cause some ENORMOUS traffic jams during some of the projects:!:
"Gauntlet"

In 1915 the quadruplication and regrading of South Yarra to Caufield was done, in the 1920s Hawthorn to Camberwell was regraded to eliminate all crossings, and in the 1950s the entire Richmond station was rebuilt.

It is possible, but it is only the road drivers who get screwed over. Twisted Evil
"wongm"

What SteamtoStay says makes complete sense.  Many of the level crossings are so close together that the works for one might lead over the where the works for another would take place (some are so close that two or more must occur at once).

It makes sense to do many crossings at once, rather than return in a few years and conduct works over parts that were relaid/graded in a previous project.  Of course, the closure of each crossing would need to be staggered, to avoid traffic chaos.
"ZH836301"


Some quick maths reveals that at least 300m either side of a crossing would be needed for the gradients, assuming all the gradient work was done on the track, with the roads left at their current height. However, preferably 500m, to give a 1:50 grade instead of 1:30. So, any crossings that are 1km or less from each other should be part of the same, staggered project. Any crossings less than 400m apart should be the same project, no staggering!
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
found at

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/internet/transport.nsf/headingpagesdisplay/what's+new+in+public+transport

A two-year audit of every road level crossing in Victoria has been released. The completed list of level crossings assessments (PDF, 115 KB, 12 pp.), based on nationally agreed safety criteria, is a working document for road and rail safety experts to plan for future upgrades. Read the Minister's media release (PDF, 20 KB, 2 pp.).

I haven't read much of the pdf file yet, but there are a few surprises, like Glenhuntley Station rating 75.
Could somebody tell me why the Macaulay Road level crossing come in at numbers 9 and 77 (is Craigieburn line really three times bussier)?

I saw on the news that they're waiting to see how Eastlink reduces traffic on Sprinvale Road before they decide about Nunawading, but those risk scores suggest its worse than Sprinvale Road ,Springvale, and Bell Street Coburg combined  Shocked / Rolling Eyes .
  Via City Loop Chief Commissioner

Could somebody tell me why the Macaulay Road level crossing come in at numbers 9 and 77 (is Craigieburn line really three times bussier)?
"Gauntlet"


I'll try I was suprised when I heard Kensington come in so high on the news tonight. After a bit of thought there's a few factors which would lead to this.

Firstly the large amount of trains using the crossing, Connex passanger, Connex stabling at Flemington, Race and Show specials, Vline Albury, Seymour and Shep, grain to the mill (which inlcludes shunting across the lx). This mean the gates are often up and down very qucikly and often down for lengthy perios as the grain shunts or several trains go through with the gates coming up.

The road itself is also congested in peak times, I'd imagine that would be taken into consideration. A set of pedestrian lights about 20 metres from the crossing can also lead to queing over it, despite a huge keep clear area at the intersection with Belair St.

I'd also assume pedestrian acess was taken into account. The pedestrian crossing is at the level on the city side however the station side is a subway only, many people don't bother using the subway and walk straight across. Sometimes the subway floods and this is the only option.

Hope that helps, just a few thoughts from a local.
  Comengs Chief Commissioner

Location: Mourningtown Ride
From the Herald Sun, Thursday 15th May 2008.

Springvale Rd in Nunawading tops danger list

Geraldine Mitchell
May 15, 2008 12:00am

THE Springvale Rd level crossing in Nunawading is Victoria's most dangerous, an audit has found.

But it has not been decided when an overpass at the crossing will built.

In three years, trains have narrowly avoided hitting cars at the crossing 10 times.

Public Transport Minister Lynne Kosky yesterday released the list of Victoria's most dangerous level crossings after a two-year audit by the Australian Level Crossings Assessment Model.

Ms Kosky said the State and Federal Governments were committed to separating cars and trains at Springvale Rd by building an overpass at the Springvale Rd level crossing but had not decided when to start the project.

"The Federal Government have made a commitment and we'll be working with them to grade separate Springvale Rd," she said.

"It was an election commitment that the Federal Government gave.

"We're looking at traffic enforcement, which is obviously a critical area, and we're working with the police and we've increased the penalties for deliberately disobeying the rules around level crossings."

It comes after the Herald Sun revealed in March that Victoria's most senior rail safety adviser, Tom Sargent, had written to the Government two years ago begging it to do major works to upgrade the crossing.

But the Government wrote back saying it would take years to fix the level crossing.

Opposition transport spokesman Terry Mulder said the risk-rating score for the Springvale Rd level crossing "was off the scale".

He said Ms Kosky continued "to ignore a previous plea from Tom Sargent, chair of the Victorian Level Crossing Steering Committee, for Springvale Rd, Nunawading to be grade separated".

"The top 200 most dangerous level crossings list features some with a history of fatalities, including Furlong Rd, St Albans."

The audit found the riskiest level crossings were in Melbourne.

The worst five are: Springvale Rd, Nunawading; Springvale Rd, Springvale; Mitcham Rd, Mitcham; Main Rd, St Albans and Furlong Rd, St Albans.

Ms Kosky said the results of the audit were available to road and rail safety experts as well as to councils and VicRoads to use as the basis for improvements.

She said the worst 200 crossings all had boom gates, flashing lights and warning bells, but they were more dangerous because of the amount of traffic.

"What this list does is it gives us a clear picture and local government a clear picture of where we need to make improvements to ensure drivers are doing the right thing at level crossings.

"It will guide government in where we best put our investment in terms of improving level crossings around the state."

Victoria has 1872 level crossings and 364 are fitted with boom gates, Ms Kosky said.

"Adding boom gates to every level crossing may not be the appropriate treatment for crossings," she said.

"Even small measures of cutting down trees, which border a level crossing can reduce the risk score for the crossing."

The full list of Victoria's dangerous level crossings can be seen at http://www.transport.vic.gov.au


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23700339-2862,00.html
  Speed Minister for Railways

The Age alleges a cover-up!

A $1.8 MILLION report on Victoria's most dangerous railway crossings will be kept secret by the State Government.

The report, which took consultants more than two years to complete, details dangers at every level crossing in the state

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/state-keeps-our-worst-level-crossing-dangers-under-wraps/2008/05/14/1210764953672.html
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
I found a list of Melbourne's level crossings sorted by line and distance that was created by ZH836601 and I decided that since yesterday's list wasn't so easy to analyse I'd add the top 200 crossings by safety to the list.

WERRIBEE/WILLIAMSTOWN
106 4 *Anderson St (Yarraville)
73 4 *Hudsons Rd (Spotswood)
0 1 *Kororoit Ck Rd (Nth Williamstown)
22 ferguson st williamstown
196 4 *Giffard St
99 4 *Champion Rd
130 4 *Maddox Rd "
151 1 *Kororoit Ck Rd
46 1 *Kororoit Ck Rd (direct line)
0 4 *Civic Pde
199 3 *Millers Rd (Seaholme)
0 4 *Pier St (Altona)
0 5 *Grieve Pde
47 2 *Maidstone St (Westona)
109 2 *Maidstone St
16 3 *Aviation Rd (Aircraft)
19 3 *Old Geelong Rd (Hoppers Crossing)
13 3 *Cherry St (Werribee)  
MELTON
49 1 *Anderson Rd (Sunshine)
57 3 *Fitzgerald Rd
115 1 *Station Rd (Deer Park)
156 3 *Robinsons Rd
162 1 *Hopkins Rd
0 5 *Troups Rd Nth
0 3 *Leakes Rd (Rockbank)
0 5 *Paynes Rd
0 5 *Mount Cottrell Rd
0 5 *Ferris Rd
183 3 *Exford Rd (Melton)
SYDENHAM/SUNBURY
64 1 *Anderson Rd (Sunshine)
5 4 *Furlong Rd (Ginifer)
4 1 *Main Rd (St Albans)
145 taylors rd keilor downs
137 1 *Melton Hwy (Sydenham)
0 4 *Calder Pk Drive
0 5 *Holden Rd
0 4 *Old Calder Hwy (Diggers Rest)
0 5 *Watsons Rd
186 4 *Station St (Sunbury)
CRAIGIEBURN
9 3 *Macaulay Rd (Kensington)
0 4 *Holmes Rd (Moonee Ponds)
58 puckle st moonee ponds
134 4 *Park St
18 2 *Buckley St (Essendon) -
107 2 *Gaffney St (Pascoe Vale)
89 4 *Devon Rd
63 box forset glenroy
11 2 *Glenroy Rd (Glenroy)
UPFIELD
121 3 *Arden St
77 3 *Macaulay Rd (Macaulay)
189 5 *Poplar Rd (Royal Park)
103 4 *Park Rd
65 1 *Brunswick Rd
157 4 *Union St (Jewell)
102 3 *Dawson St
0 5 *Albert St
143 3 *Victoria St (Brunswick)
168 4 *Hope St
113 3 *Albion St (Anstey)
29 2 *Moreland Rd (Moreland)
136 3 *Reynard St
80 4 *Munro St
6 1 *Bell St (Coburg)
108 4 *O’Hea St
44 2 *Gaffney St (Batman)
0 4 *Bakers Rd
112 2 *Boundary Rd (Merlynston)
175 5 *Fawkner Cemetery
0 3 *Box Forest Rd
161 1 *Camp Rd
155 2 *Barry Rd (Upfield)
EPPING
0 4 *Charles St (Merri)
118 3 *Arthurton Rd (Northcote)
182 5 *Beavers Rd (Croxton)
173 5 *Woolton Rd
62 2 *Normanby Av
167 5 *Hutton St (Thornbury)
119 4 *Oakover St
10 1 *Bell St (Bell)
59 3 *Cramer St
25 2 *Murray Rd (Preston)
122 3 *Regent St (Regent)
72 2 *High St (Reservoir)
43 1 *Keon Pde (Keon Park)
148 2 *Settlement Rd
135 4 *Heyington Av (Thomastown)
0 4 *Manns Crossing
0 4 *Station St (Lalor)
117 paschke epping
159 1 *Childs Rd
HURSTBRIDGE
147 5 *Ramsden St
92 2 *Westgarth St
93 3 *Victoria Rd (Dennis)
24 2 *Station St (Fairfield)
54 1 *Grange Rd
170 5 *Yarralea St (Alphington)
96 4 *Marshall St (Ivanhoe)
23 2 *Lower Plenty Rd (Rosanna)
132 3 *Ruthven St
0 5 *Diamond St (Eltham)
0 5 *Railway Pde
0 1 *Wattletree Rd
0 4 *Allandale Rd
171 1 *Main Hurstbridge Rd (Diamond Creek)
0 4 *Wilson Rd (Wattle Glen)
PAKENHAM/CRANBOURNE
12 2 *Grange Rd
0 3 *Koornang Rd (Carnegie)
79 1 *Murrumbeena Rd (Murrumbeena)
68 3 *Poath Rd (Hughesdale)
8 1 *Clayton Rd (Clayton)
27 1 *Centre Rd
2 1 *Springvale Rd (Springvale)
55 3 *Corrigan Rd
30 1 *Heatherton Rd (Noble Park)
40 3 *Chandler Rd
38 webster st dand
45 1 *South Gippsland Hwy
133 5 *Progress St
34 1 *Hallam Rd (Hallam)
50 4 *Webb St (Narre Warren)
32 1 *Clyde Rd (Berwick)
110 3 *Station St (Beaconsfield)
131 5 *Brunt Rd
139 3 *Station St (Officer)
193 1 *Cardinia Rd –
20 3 *McGregor Rd
52 4 *Main St (Pakenham) –
36 racecourse rd pakenham
163 1 *Greens Rd
144 3 *Abbotts Rd
0 5 *Evans Rd
149 1 *Thompsons Rd (Merinda Park)
0 3 *Camms Rd (Cranbourne)
FRANKSTONED
152 2 *Neerim Rd
75 3 *Glen Huntly Rd (Glen Huntly)
15 1 *North Rd (Ormond)
84 3 *McKinnon Rd (McKinnon)
60 1 *Centre Rd (Bentleigh)
150 3 *Wickham Rd
86 3 *Highett Rd (Highett)
111 3 *Park Rd (Cheltenham)
31 3 *Charman Rd (Cheltenham)
188 4 *La Trobe St
114 1 *Balcombe Rd (Mentone)
81 1 *Warrigal Rd
128 4 *Parkers Rd (Parkdale)
141 3 *McDonald St
98 5 *Bear St (Mordialloc)
0 3 *Station St
138 3 *Station St (Aspendale)
105 3 *Lochial Av
74 1 *Edithvale Rd (Edithvale)
35 3 *Swanpool Av
0 3 *Chelsea Rd (Chelsea)
85 3 *Argyle Av
90 3 *Bondi Rd (Bonbeach)
41 station bonbeach
0 3 *Mascot Av
26 station st carrum
0 1 *McLeod Rd (Carrum)
91 4 *Eel Race Rd
100 4 *Armstrongs Rd
95 4 *Station St (Seaford)
28 1 *Seaford Rd
42 3 *Overton Rd
125 moorooduc hwy frankston
SANDRINGHAM
126 4 *Greville St (Prahran)
208 5 *Union St
78 2 *Glen Eira Rd (Ripponlea)
94 3 *Bay St (North Brighton)
140 5 *Church St (Middle Brighton)
0 3 *Dendy St
51 1 *South Rd (Brighton Beach)
0 3 *New St
66 2 *Hampton St (Hampton)
0 4 *Linacre Rd
146 3 *Abott St (Sandringham)
LILYDALE/BELGRAVE/ALAMEIN
61 4 *Prospect Hill Rd
21 1 *Riversdale Rd (Riversdale)
14 3 *Union Rd (Surrey Hills)
88 3 *Mont Albert Rd (Mont Albert)
17 1 *Blackburn Rd (Blackburn)
1 1 *Springvale Rd (Nunawading)
124 4 *Rooks Rd
3 1 *Mitcham Rd (Mitcham)
97 3 *Heatherdale Rd (Heatherdale)
123 3 *Dublin Rd (Ringwood East)
192 4 *Coolstore Rd (Croydon)
142 3 *Manchester Rd (Mooroolbark)
0 5 *Melba Av
56 1 *Maroondah Hwy (Lilydale)
104 3 *Bedford Rd
87 1 *Mountain Hwy (Bayswater)
48 1 *Scoresby Rd
197 3 *Alpine St (Ferntree Gully)
176 5 *Hill Top Rd (Upper Ferntree Gully)
GLEN WAVERLEY
76 1 *Madden Gve
71 1 *Glenferrie Rd (Kooyong)
33 1 *Toorak Rd
39 2 *Tooronga Rd (Tooronga)
67 1 *Burke Rd (Gardiner)
53 1 *Glen Iris (Glen Iris)

The first number is the safety ranking (1-208 or 0) and the second indicates the colour of the road in the Melway.
Thanks again to ZH836601 for doing the initial project in January.
  prometheus_au Chief Train Controller

Furlong Road near Ginifer
"Haydenthegunzel"

Main Road, St Albans should take precedence over this one, despite what local reactionaries may think.
"ZH836301"


Agreed that it's a nightmare crossing and I also agree that it needs to be grade separated. Unfortunately local business owners have hijacked the debate and will not back down from the ridiculous "St. Albans station should be underground" crap.

These morons would, in effect have the Main North Western line shut down for two years from St. Albans onward if they get their way. For what? So a few thousand people who actually shop in that hell hole called Alfrieda Street can easily get from east to west?

If the business owners want a grade separation, it should be done without pain to the rest of the community, or state for that matter. Let the local community bear the brunt of the separation by lowering Main Rd East/Main Rd West. This way the trains could continue to run (in the same fashion as Taylors Rd, where services were disrupted for two weekends and a series of late nights to put in place the rail bridge) as much as possible.

Here's something I"ve posted before.... and yes I'm a quasi-local.
  obenshlieven Junior Train Controller

Location: Good question
Yay! A long section of rail without a darned x!
It looks good!
  fogcv Chief Train Controller

Location: Platform 11 Flinders Street

GLEN WAVERLEY
76 1 *Madden Gve
71 1 *Glenferrie Rd (Kooyong)
33 1 *Toorak Rd
39 2 *Tooronga Rd (Tooronga)
67 1 *Burke Rd (Gardiner)
53 1 *Glen Iris (Glen Iris)

The first number is the safety ranking (1-208 or 0) and the second indicates the colour of the road in the Melway.
"Gauntlet"



Crossing upgrade urged

THE Public Transport Users Association has demanded grade separation of the busy train crossing at Burke Rd, Gardiner Station, near the intersection with Malvern Rd.

Trains crawl through the busy intersection at less than 15km/h, forcing cars and trams on Burke and Malvern roads to bank up for hundreds of metres in every direction.

Train operator Connex has signalled the congestion may get worse when the operator runs more services on the line later this year.

When two trains pass through the crossing at the same time 30 times a day the boom gates can be down for up to five minutes.

The RACV-Leader Community Newspapers 2006 Redspot Survey listed the crossing as the eighth worst redspot in Melbourne.

...

http://www.progressleader.com.au/article/2008/05/27/35773_ppv_news.html

"Progress Leader"
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
prometheus_au, the last thing we need is a monstrosity like that

Rail does not exist for rail's sake

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