Warrnambool line freight

 
  Brenden Locomotive Driver

Location: Melbourne
Hi all,
I was up Warrnambool way past couple of days and saw in the Warrnambool yard the following:-

Thursday 5/1/06 I saw A78 in FA livery sitting alone in the yard. Time~12:30pm

Tuesday 10/1/06 I saw X42 in FA livery with 5 louvered vans (VLVX, VLEX, VLCX etc). I noticed that they were loading wool into one of the vans. Time~10:30am.

hope this helps.

Cheers

Brenden[/img]

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  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Usually after the freight arrives in Warrnambool, containers are taken to the industrial estate off Caramut Road. The loco returns to Warrnambool station light engine and is shut down.

Usually around 1800 - 1830 the loco is given a kick in the guts and runs to Caramut Road IE to pick up the loaded containers. Usually gets back to the station around 1830 - 1900.

This is the only operation which still goes out towards Dennington.

Hope this helps.
  aussiebbq Assistant Commissioner

Location: Ballarat, Australia
Usually after the freight arrives in Warrnambool, containers are taken to the industrial estate off Caramut Road. The loco returns to Warrnambool station light engine and is shut down.

Usually around 1800 - 1830 the loco is given a kick in the guts and runs to Caramut Road IE to pick up the loaded containers. Usually gets back to the station around 1830 - 1900.


This is the only operation which still goes out towards Dennington.

Hope this helps.
"Reverend Horton Heat"


Yes Dennington has not been used for years, and sometime the containers at Caramut Road block the track anyway, i have seen a loco pushing the containers from the station many times, but I don't know if this still happan offen.

The freight train will always be ready to leave by 7pm, unless the engine fails which i have see, ones when a A failed the V/line N at the station was used to shunt the box cars and containers when i arived with the train at about 9:30pm, an A run light engine to get the train the that night and the to As left with the train about 30mins after the first passenger train about 6:30am the next day.
  station street Chief Commissioner

I have been in the Warrnambool area recently, and have taken a little of my time to Take a look at the new rail bits....

1) Sherwood Park Station is there and ready for use. More like South Kensington, but less Uglier, only 1 platform, and less Signage

2) Port Fairy Rail Goos Shed is being 'Restored' as 'Pride in Victoria's Heritage' - it's basically jsut getting a few new pieces of wood, repaired spouting and removal of the Asbestos

3) S302 is still going!            

4) The Late night arrival a couple of nights ago only had 2 (Or 3) cars, and todays lunchtime arrival had 5 cars - I personally would rather travel on the late night service, as you get half a day at your origin, and have a bit of time in the evening/afternoon

5) I Don't remember seeing a freight train, but there would have been one

6) There Was A V/Locity Unit Outside Geelong Station (Around 19:48 Today        )                                                

7) I think the line needs a little bit of an overhaul. Its great for tourists, but for the travelling public, it's a tad slow. Idea: Increase the speed limit to 130 (but 115 would generally be the regularily reached speed) and make the late night and the Early Morning Services Run At The Faster Speeds (Aiming TO Reduce Travel Times By Perhaps 45 Minutes.... Would Be Nice....... Very HappyVery HappyWinkWinkRazzSmileVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy            )                                                      

8) Perhaps a new station (Seeing as they like to build them) could be put at Allansford (Not Really Needed)
And
Warun Ponds / Grovedale                    

9) Extension of the line to
Koroit
Port Fairy
Portland
Mount Gambier        
(With Those Stations And In That Phase From Warrnambool - I'm Not Too Sure About Any Others, Perhaps Heywood - If It'S On The Way    )

Well, Thats All For Now,                                  


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  station street Chief Commissioner

Dennington I Thin HASN'T been used in years. The only thing out that way is Fonterra, EX Nestlé , and the track is in poor condition - Plus, when you go over the Rail / Road OverPass, The Track Appears To Become Grassland Before It Reaches Fonterra. And Excuse Me If I'm Jsut Repeating Things - But I Had Difficulty Finding Where Carramut Road Is      


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  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere

Port Fairy Rail Goos Shed is being 'Restored' as 'Pride in Victoria's Heritage'

Those folk at Port Fairy at least have a sense of history!  All that's left of their railway is a shed in a large open reserve which used to be the station and yard.


9) Extension of the line to
Koroit
Port Fairy
Portland
Mount Gambier

A big ask.  The remains of the old Port Fairy line are pretty much derleict now; as you would see from the main road if you took a look at the trestle just west of Dennington.  Not too much of it left.  Some of the route has been returned to farming.

Where would you put a through line in Port Fairy?  It's a historic town and the old line went right to the middle of town.  But you couldn't take it on towards Portland without flattenning several historic homes.

The VLP road coach link from Warrnambool - Mount Gambier is one of the busier routes on their network, but seldom full apart from during festivals at Port Fairy.  I doubt a case could be made for providing this rail link although it looks enticing on a map, joining two relatively close existing terminals albeit one without a regualr passenger service at present.
  tasrail2100 Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane, Queensland.

9) Extension of the line to
Koroit
Port Fairy
Portland
Mount Gambier

A big ask.  The remains of the old Port Fairy line are pretty much derleict now; as you would see from the main road if you took a look at the trestle just west of Dennington.  Not too much of it left.  Some of the route has been returned to farming.

Where would you put a through line in Port Fairy?  It's a historic town and the old line went right to the middle of town.  But you couldn't take it on towards Portland without flattenning several historic homes.
"Gwiwer"


Its a shame they didn't build the line all the way through in the first place... AFAIK Port Fairy was originally built with the idea that it would be a through line and that it would continue through to Portland.

While much of the land that the line on has been returned to other uses, it is still fairly easy to follow in a lot of places... I found an ariel photograph of my old house in PF taken a year or so before we moved, the line was quite defined.
  aussiebbq Assistant Commissioner

Location: Ballarat, Australia

9) Extension of the line to
Koroit
Port Fairy
Portland
Mount Gambier

A big ask.  The remains of the old Port Fairy line are pretty much derleict now; as you would see from the main road if you took a look at the trestle just west of Dennington.  Not too much of it left.  Some of the route has been returned to farming.

Where would you put a through line in Port Fairy?  It's a historic town and the old line went right to the middle of town.  But you couldn't take it on towards Portland without flattenning several historic homes.
"Gwiwer"


Its a shame they didn't build the line all the way through in the first place... AFAIK Port Fairy was originally built with the idea that it would be a through line and that it would continue through to Portland.

While much of the land that the line on has been returned to other uses, it is still fairly easy to follow in a lot of places... I found an ariel photograph of my old house in PF taken a year or so before we moved, the line was quite defined.
"tasrail2100"


As a matter of fact  the goverment wanted to built a line from Warrnambool to Portland but the people of Portland didn't want this, they new that Portland would be better with a link from North West Victoria. having a major Port linked with Melborune would of been a wast of time. Where this worked in time it was let them down now, however a link along the coast wouldn't have been all the good now either.

[Dennington I Thin HASN'T been used in years. The only thing out that way is Fonterra, EX Nestlé , and the track is in poor condition - Plus, when you go over the Rail / Road OverPass, The Track Appears To Become Grassland Before It Reaches Fonterra. And Excuse Me If I'm Jsut Repeating Things - But I Had Difficulty Finding Where Carramut Road Is.
"station street"


The Industrial Estate is the to West of Warrnambool towards Dennington.
  ashbeer Assistant Commissioner

Just wanting to know the current times Monday-Sunday the freight trains on the Warnambool are? And what time do they start/pass through Geelong?
  ashbeer Assistant Commissioner

That last post was probably a bit broad. What i'de really like to know is when does the freight train from Warnambool leave? (I thought it was about 7pm) and where and when does it stop along the way? And what time does it pass through Geelong?
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
It's all pretty much the same as mentioned earlier in the thread.

The up Warrnambool freight arrives at North Geelong about 1am, and then the down one departs soon after. About 1am in North Geelong they are both sitting in the yard.

A quarry train visits North Shore (the concrete plant next to the station.) I have seen it return to Melbourne (at Newport) at 10:30 so it leaves Geelong about 9:30am. I've seen it with a G class most times. Anyone got any other details? I have seen a similar train at Melbourne Yard (in the down direction) at 9am as well. QuestionConfused

A mixed freight arrives at North Geelong about 9am, with grain hoppers, wood, tankcars, and louvered vans. The wood and tanks get taken by the Y class to either North Shore or Corio respectivley.

Another mixed freight returns to Melbourne in the afternoon, at about 6pm or so.

The Waurn Ponds cement runs in the middle of the day, leaving Geelong about 11am, the return time depending on the loading.
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
The train (9219/9220) will shunt at Colac, Camperdown and Warrnambool.

9219 is videoable at Geelong station if your camera works in low ambient sodium-bulb light.  Keep your scanner on if you have one for Centrol giving the train order for 9220 departing Warrnambool to South Geelong.

I believe that it shunts Dennington if required prior to departure.
  popey Train Controller

Location: Werribee, Vic
It's all pretty much the same as mentioned earlier in the thread.

The up Warrnambool freight arrives at North Geelong about 1am, and then the down one departs soon after. About 1am in North Geelong they are both sitting in the yard.

A quarry train visits North Shore (the concrete plant next to the station.) I have seen it return to Melbourne (at Newport) at 10:30 so it leaves Geelong about 9:30am. I've seen it with a G class most times. Anyone got any other details? I have seen a similar train at Melbourne Yard (in the down direction) at 9am as well. QuestionConfused

A mixed freight arrives at North Geelong about 9am, with grain hoppers, wood, tankcars, and louvered vans. The wood and tanks get taken by the Y class to either North Shore or Corio respectivley.

Another mixed freight returns to Melbourne in the afternoon, at about 6pm or so.

The Waurn Ponds cement runs in the middle of the day, leaving Geelong about 11am, the return time depending on the loading.
"wongm"


Thanks for the info on the Warrambool, wongm.

As for the quarry, you're pretty right. I've seen it at North Shore about 8, then at Werribee at 9.30

The 9am can run anytime before that, I've only seen it at that time once. It's normally broken up by the time I arrive in Geelong.

As for the cement, it leaves normally Geelong at 10.00, returning between the 11.30, 12.35 and 1.30 passes.

Hope it helps

Nathan
  aussiebbq Assistant Commissioner

Location: Ballarat, Australia
The train (9219/9220) will shunt at Colac, Camperdown and Warrnambool.

9219 is videoable at Geelong station if your camera works in low ambient sodium-bulb light.  Keep your scanner on if you have one for Centrol giving the train order for 9220 departing Warrnambool to South Geelong.

I believe that it shunts Dennington if required prior to departure.
"ninthnotch"


The train shunts at Industrial Estate not Dennington, no train has run there for years, the Industrial Estate siding is located about half way between Dennington and the Warrnambool yard.
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
The train (9219/9220) will shunt at Colac, Camperdown and Warrnambool.

9219 is videoable at Geelong station if your camera works in low ambient sodium-bulb light.  Keep your scanner on if you have one for Centrol giving the train order for 9220 departing Warrnambool to South Geelong.

I believe that it shunts Dennington if required prior to departure.
"ninthnotch"


The train shunts at Industrial Estate not Dennington, no train has run there for years, the Industrial Estate siding is located about half way between Dennington and the Warrnambool yard.
"aussiebbq"
Thank you  -I did not realise that tehy had their own distinct name.
  ashbeer Assistant Commissioner

The train (9219/9220) will shunt at Colac, Camperdown and Warrnambool.

9219 is videoable at Geelong station if your camera works in low ambient sodium-bulb light.  Keep your scanner on if you have one for Centrol giving the train order for 9220 departing Warrnambool to South Geelong.

I believe that it shunts Dennington if required prior to departure.
"ninthnotch"

Exactly when and where is the best to use the scanner for this one? Sorry, I'm new to this.
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
If you're scanning the frequencies for Centrol, and it's switched on at around 20:00 onwards, you'll hear the train controller give the driver details over the radio of the train order.
  ashbeer Assistant Commissioner

I'm guessing that this happens in Warrnambool & u'de have to be in Warrnambool at the time to listen to this?
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
No.  The Centrol frequency can e heard anywhere as it is repeated across a large portion of Victoria.  For the driver's response: yes, you do.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Is there still a fastrack freight service to Warnambool?

--Bill
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
Is there still a fastrack freight service to Warnambool?

--Bill
"freightgate"
Yes, there is. Colac and Camperdown, and surprisingly Portland are served by these freights.

As well, this freight also sees near-exlusive use of the VQAW 3-pack articulated wagons.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
How many fastrack wagons are usually on the service?

--Bill
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
From what I have seen, there's usually 6-8, either VLVX/VLCX's or Freight Australia LCL containers.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
From what I have seen, there's usually 6-8, either VLVX/VLCX's or Freight Australia LCL containers.
"ninthnotch"


What else is usually on the train?

--Bill
  ninthnotch Dr Beeching

Location: Not here. Try another castle.
From what I have seen, there's usually 6-8, either VLVX/VLCX's or Freight Australia LCL containers.
"ninthnotch"


What else is usually on the train?

--Bill
"freightgate"
Usually it's an A class (rarely an X or X-T, never a G or XR*), about 6-18 loaded container wagons, between 6-8 Fasttrack wagons.

*The line's too loght for the axle load.  X35 made it down there once, as the planners didn't realise it had been rebuilt - going by the locmotive number, presumed it was a normal early X which can run there.  Thus, from X34/XR554 onwards, the converted X's received new numbers and letters.)

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