Mildura passenger service

 
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
Sometime you'll have unruly passenge....
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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Seems the local member for Mildura has joined forces with the Reason Party.  Is the reason party public transport inclined?
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Is the reason party public transport inclined?
bevans



From their web site:

Make all movement around Victoria easier
  • Increase public transport spending in outer high-growth areas
  • Urgently improve train frequency, including new express services
  • Establish new bus routes and timetables to connect trams and trains
  • Prioritise construction of Melbourne Metro Tunnel Stage 2
  • Free WiFi on public transport. Every train, every tram, every bus
  • Support for high speed regional transport and services between regional hubs
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Return of passenger services to
Mildura announcement I feel is not long with Daniel Andrews record spending on rail services and his inclusive and progressive agenda.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Nah. Won't happen. Unless people are happy with 40-80km/h for most of the journey, via Ararat.

Best to spend the money on speeding up Swan Hill line.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Nah. Won't happen. Unless people are happy with 40-80km/h for most of the journey, via Ararat.

Best to spend the money on speeding up Swan Hill line.
Carnot

Didn't we have this discussion around this time last month...

M.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Nah. Won't happen. Unless people are happy with 40-80km/h for most of the journey, via Ararat.

Best to spend the money on speeding up Swan Hill line.

Didn't we have this discussion around this time last month...

M.
The Vinelander
It's a discussion that happens about once a month on RP.  The chestnut that won't go away.

Here's the thing, with the State Govt giving up on the short SG route via Ballarat, and in all reality no hope of SG train stabling in Maryborough (i.e. All-change from BG to SG at Maryborough), it's a pipe dream now.

The best chance would be a private operation between Mildura and Maryborough with surplus SG rolling stock after Albury goes V/locity.  And pitch it as more a tourist thing.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Return of passenger services to
Mildura announcement I feel is not long with Daniel Andrews record spending on rail services and his inclusive and progressive agenda.
freightgate
The state government killed that idea when they decided to standardise the Mildura line
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Return of passenger services to
Mildura announcement I feel is not long with Daniel Andrews record spending on rail services and his inclusive and progressive agenda.
The state government killed that idea when they decided to standardise the Mildura line
Dangersdan707
It was not so much converting Mildura to SG which killed the idea, but the failure to convert Maryborough-Gheringhap.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Return of passenger services to
Mildura announcement I feel is not long with Daniel Andrews record spending on rail services and his inclusive and progressive agenda.
freightgate
How long is a piece of string?.......................................Yawn   (aagain)      ...............................
  Maximas Locomotive Fireman

Location: Geelong
From their web site:

Make all movement around Victoria easier
  • Increase public transport spending in outer high-growth areas
  • Urgently improve train frequency, including new express services
  • Establish new bus routes and timetables to connect trams and trains
  • Prioritise construction of Melbourne Metro Tunnel Stage 2
  • Free WiFi on public transport. Every train, every tram, every bus
  • Support for high speed regional transport and services between regional hubs
Fatty
Note the final point (the only one applicable to this topic) doesn't make mention of trains necessarily, and nor should it as per the result of long discussions in this very thread and many others.

In any case if Fiona Patten is a woman of her word then she has a strange idea of 'freedom' to say the least, Cupper might go in looking for a passenger service and walk away with a local injecting room
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Return of passenger services to
Mildura announcement I feel is not long with Daniel Andrews record spending on rail services and his inclusive and progressive agenda.
The state government killed that idea when they decided to standardise the Mildura line
It was not so much converting Mildura to SG which killed the idea, but the failure to convert Maryborough-Gheringhap.
duttonbay
I still couldn't see it happening even if that was done
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Nah. Won't happen. Unless people are happy with 40-80km/h for most of the journey, via Ararat.

Best to spend the money on speeding up Swan Hill line.

Didn't we have this discussion around this time last month...

M.
The Vinelander
Been going around and around In circles for the last 20 odd years.

Conclusion nothing but hollow promises (from Government) and hopes and dreams from locals.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Return of passenger services to
Mildura announcement I feel is not long with Daniel Andrews record spending on rail services and his inclusive and progressive agenda.
The state government killed that idea when they decided to standardise the Mildura line
It was not so much converting Mildura to SG which killed the idea, but the failure to convert Maryborough-Gheringhap.
I still couldn't see it happening even if that was done
Dangersdan707
It might happen in the year 2235 when the 150th Vlocity redesign is completed and Melbourne has swallowed up most of the state.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Nah. Won't happen. Unless people are happy with 40-80km/h for most of the journey, via Ararat.

Best to spend the money on speeding up Swan Hill line.

Didn't we have this discussion around this time last month...

M.
Been going around and around In circles for the last 20 odd years.

Conclusion nothing but hollow promises (from Government) and hopes and dreams from locals.
Nightfire
And a distraction from the real issues which is overall productivity of the network.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Return of passenger services to
Mildura announcement I feel is not long with Daniel Andrews record spending on rail services and his inclusive and progressive agenda.
The state government killed that idea when they decided to standardise the Mildura line
It was not so much converting Mildura to SG which killed the idea, but the failure to convert Maryborough-Gheringhap.
I still couldn't see it happening even if that was done
It might happen in the year 2235 when the 150th Vlocity redesign is completed and Melbourne has swallowed up most of the state.
railblogger
It won't be the 150th redesign of the Vlocity - they will still be buying the base 1970s (?) model as technology will not have advanced between then and 2235.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
This article has rumblings in the right direction https://t.co/kbkoPxwbUw?amp=1
  Carnot Minister for Railways

This article has rumblings in the right direction https://t.co/kbkoPxwbUw?amp=1
bevans
It's interesting that Ali mentions the Maryborough - Mildura 'tourist' operation.  Makes sense to me, especially if they can make it comfortable with a little bit of bling and hospitality.

And take the Swanners train and then the bus if you want to travel on a budget and a tighter timetable.
  Maximas Locomotive Fireman

Location: Geelong
Right so she is advocating for a certain level of service be made available to her constituents - but she wants the target market to be tourists from a viability POV?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
She is causing some rethink at V/line with statements like why we Mildura be happy with a bus when Shepparton and bairinsdale and Albury would accept that service a very valid point. Mildura is a big city by inland standard and does need a rail service.

I think the idea of up market services running on the line why can’t rail be reimagined for Mildura lines.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
She is causing some rethink at V/line with statements like why we Mildura be happy with a bus when Shepparton and bairinsdale and Albury would accept that service a very valid point. Mildura is a big city by inland standard and does need a rail service.

I think the idea of up market services running on the line why can’t rail be reimagined for Mildura lines.
freightgate

Mildura may be a big city but unlike all the big cities that have rail this is almost twice the distance and has an airport that is (pre-COVID) regularly served by regional air carriers.
  Maximas Locomotive Fireman

Location: Geelong
Would Mildura be happy with a tourist train when the other regional centres have a commuter train? Seems like she is saying she just wants a train of any description as a matter of principle rather than something that has the capacity to truly deliver for the region and on economic grounds
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
She is causing some rethink at V/line with statements like why we Mildura be happy with a bus when Shepparton and Bairnsdale and Albury would accept that service a very valid point. Mildura is a big city by inland standard and does need a rail service.

I think the idea of up market services running on the line why can’t rail be reimagined for Mildura lines.

Mildura may be a big city but unlike all the big cities that have rail this is almost twice the distance and has an airport that is (pre-COVID) regularly served by regional air carriers.
railblogger

Again...a point always overlooked by some posters.. Mildura, similar to Albury has flights to Melbourne at regional air fares which are nowhere near as cheap V/Line fares. Unless you travel when the airlines say...which is not necessarily the time or day when YOU want to travel.

Mike.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
She is causing some rethink at V/line with statements like why we Mildura be happy with a bus when Shepparton and Bairnsdale and Albury would accept that service a very valid point. Mildura is a big city by inland standard and does need a rail service.

I think the idea of up market services running on the line why can’t rail be reimagined for Mildura lines.

Mildura may be a big city but unlike all the big cities that have rail this is almost twice the distance and has an airport that is (pre-COVID) regularly served by regional air carriers.

Again...a point always overlooked by some posters.. Mildura, similar to Albury has flights to Melbourne at regional air fares which are nowhere near as cheap V/Line fares. Unless you travel when the airlines say...which is not necessarily the time or day when YOU want to travel.

Mike.
The Vinelander
And somehow the train will be better?
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
If you want cheaper fares than the airlines offer, V/line offer a service via road coach.

If you want to get there quick, then the airlines are there, just be prepared to pay for it.

Both require you to follow their time schedule.

If you want to go at your own speed, do what the majority of people do, drive there yourself.


As far as any passenger train to Mildura goes, I will not be holding my breath.

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