All Australian Tracks Courtesy of Hairyleg

 
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Well done Bevans.
There has been a lot of work going on behind the scenes to bring you this update (hopefully future updates will not be as painful).

Another six months of on-and-off work on this (mostly off, I do have a day job) and I have updated a lot of TAS, QLD (check out Wee McGregor), tidied up a lot of SA and WA.

I keep a close eye on this forum, and I have tried to update any tracks that get mentioned here. It is great to see others making use of my efforts in their own research, keep it up and so will I.

  HairyLeg

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hl, is there any chance you could post a log of the changes between versions?

Regards
Brian
  Wrigleys Chief Train Controller

Well done Bevans.
There has been a lot of work going on behind the scenes to bring you this update (hopefully future updates will not be as painful).

Another six months of on-and-off work on this (mostly off, I do have a day job) and I have updated a lot of TAS, QLD (check out Wee McGregor), tidied up a lot of SA and WA.

I keep a close eye on this forum, and I have tried to update any tracks that get mentioned here. It is great to see others making use of my efforts in their own research, keep it up and so will I.

  HairyLeg
"HairyLeg"


One small error, in the Marrer - Coolamon section at the Coolamon ABA the old alignement is shown a being south of the present alignement when it was to the north ( 34.812650 147.273923 )
  Warks Minister for Railways

Location: Near H30+059
Wow!  This was enough to get me to come back to RP!  Just Archaeology though.
Is there any way to show the names of the lines?  Many are obvious from the locations but I was wondering about many of the timber and mine lines.

Also I have noticed there are the normal pink lines indicating closed lines but there are also very thin/fine lines coming off for some.  They can be hard to see on some backgrounds.  I was wondering what the status of these lines was.  An example is the line off the Main North just before Cheltenham.

Thanks for a fantastic job.
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Warks,

The line off the Main North just south of Cheltenham is my best approximation of the "Cheltenham Ballast Siding", as mentioned in Singleton's history of the Short North, published in ARHS Bulletin 329, March 1965, page 47.

HairyLeg
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I have updated a lot of TAS, QLD (check out Wee McGregor), tidied up a lot of SA and WA.
"HairyLeg"

Wee McGregor is excellent - very well done.

I'm struggling to get any labelling on the images in these remote locations, other than the larger towns. I expect that's related to these places not actually existing any more.  Is there any way that lines, junctions, terminii, etc, can be identified when looking at Google Earth?
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Duttonbay,

I have included a multitude of railway specific location names in a layer that is turned off by default (due to the immense number of named points).
If you make sure you can view the Google Earth "Sidebar" and look at the "Places" tab, you will see how "HairyLeg's Tracks" is broken up into States, with separate layers within each State for "Tracks", "Tunnels" and "Locations".
Tick the checkbox in front of "Locations" for the State you are looking at and wonders will appear.

Now look again at "Wee McGregor".

   HairyLeg
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Ah. I did try that, but when I checked again I found that I was clicking on the 2009-03-19 stuff, not the most recent one. Once I check "QLD Locations 2009-09-17" I see the names.  

Thanks again - this is a wonderful piece of work...
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Thanks very much for a very useful resource. What do the different colours of lines mean?

Interesting things I found out today were a tramway on Magnetic Island, some sort of a railway at Terranora near Tweed Heads and something between Blackheath and Mount Victoria.

Actually was there a tramway on King Island?
  Warks Minister for Railways

Location: Near H30+059
What do the different colours of lines mean?
"GeoffreyHansen"

As I understand it from a NSW perspective:
blue = line open, not necessarily running trains as there are a few in NSW like the Gwabegar line which are cactus but may run again.  Assume it's only the ones that have been "booked out" in the past few years that still show blue.
pink = line closed/lifted or not running trains for last 5 years (eg Mbah line)
green = timber tramways or metro tramways or miniature trainlines
red = not sure - seems to be the Macquarie line, a line going west from Dombarton, Chullora yards and a series of lines going from nowhere to nowhere just north of the Qld border?

I don't know why some lines are faint.
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
This is a work-in-progress and the colour coding reflects this.

Colour coding was initially my way of identifying the origin of the data, but I am trying to evolve it into a general breakup into track usage, starting in NSW.

It is approximately/generally as follows:

NSW
Blue - collected through GPS on-board trains, evolving into open or recently closed tracks.
Pink - manually digitised off maps or air photos, evolving into closed tracks.
Green - manually digitised tramways, either passenger, timber, or industrial etc.
Red, thick - tunnels
Red, very thick - ECRL work in progress

a selection of other colours representing alternate versions, interpretations, years etc

QLD
Blue - mapping layer as appears in digital topographic maps, including cane railways if they are included in the digital maps
Red, thin - digitised
Red, thick - tunnels

VIC
Blue - mapping layer from digital topos
Pink - digitised
Red, thick - tunnels

TAS
Pink - digitised
Red, thick - tunnels

SA
Blue - GPS on-board trains
Pink - digitised
Red, thick - tunnels

WA
Blue - GPS on-board trains
Pink - digitised
Green - digitised timber tramways
Red, thick - tunnels

NT
Blue - GPS on-board trains
Pink - digitised


I know this leaves a lot to be desired, but please, no correspondence on this, it is the subject of a separate exercise that a couple of others are currently working on (the whole GIS database thing).
This stage is just about finding and recording the tracks in the first place.

  HairyLeg
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Thanks very much for a very useful resource. What do the different colours of lines mean?

Interesting things I found out today were a tramway on Magnetic Island, some sort of a railway at Terranora near Tweed Heads and something between Blackheath and Mount Victoria.

Actually was there a tramway on King Island?
"GeoffreyHansen"


I've also noticed a short line on Kangaroo Island in South Australia. Does anyone know anything about this?
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
It was a tramway built many years ago. I believe it was similar to the tramway from Pt. Broughton to Mundoora. Like a lot of the tramways here in SA, not much info is available.
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
HairyLeg,

Thanks for making this application available, its a great research tool.

Can I add two comments for NSW

1) Rheem Siding on the UP side of Rydalmere on the Carlingford branch is not shown.

Remains of it can still be seen and is located here: 33º 48’49.33” S   151º01’40.17” E  Rheem Siding

2) Mittagong Maltings Siding as shown, is in the wrong location, the maltings are closer to Mittagong Station and would be located here: 34º 26’57.00” S   150º27’30.93” E  Mittagong Maltings

Hope this helps
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Catchpoint,

Great help
1) Rheem Siding - once you know is was there, it is obvious. I will add it in.
2) Mittagong Maltings - There appears to be very little evidence remainimg, unless that bridge over the creek was a part of it. Do you have any maps/plan etc?

Thanks
   HairyLeg
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I've also noticed a short line on Kangaroo Island in South Australia. Does anyone know anything about this?
"GeoffreyHansen"

This was Cheetham's salt tramway, which ran from Muston at American River, to the refinery at the salt lake.  It ran a little further than shown on HairyLeg's map, to and once across the lake.



Information can be found in Light Railways 117, July 1992.
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Duttonbay,

Perfect, I will add this to the next update.
That is a very good map, and typical of the quality of the mapping published in Light Railways (an excellent resource, which I have very poor access to).

  HairyLeg
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

That is a very good map, and typical of the quality of the mapping published in Light Railways (an excellent resource, which I have very poor access to).
"HairyLeg"

I have them all. Perhaps that's another retirement project for 2011 onwards - scanning all the maps in LR and sending them your way. The problem is finding time for all my retirement projects... Smile
  Warks Minister for Railways

Location: Near H30+059
I was wondering about the network of green lines to the south and east of Cobar, NSW.  Assume it was a timber tramway network.  However in that country you'd expect to see something on the ground still as it takes a very long time to recover and I can't make out anything on Google Earth that corresponds with the lines.

Also noticed a few locations not on the North Coast line between Dungog and Taree, like Pitlochry and Monkerai, I didn't look much further than that so I'm not sure of the rest.  Do you aim to have them all?  It does get busy I'll agree.
http://www.nswrail.net/lines/show.php?name=NSW:north_coast
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
Warks,

Most of the green lines around Cobar are part of the "Great Cobar Copper Mining Co Ltd Firewood Tramway - 1889", as published in Light Railways October 1999, and in ARHS Bulletin 383, Sept 1969.
I agree, I would also expect to see some evidence in the air photos. Maybe the lower resolution of the Google Earth images in this area is to blame because there certainly was evidence on the ground when John Shoebridge visited the area in 1966 and 1969 to write his article.
The two longer lines not mentioned by Shoebridge are from another source that I can't put my finger on right now (I recall it was from a book I borrowed from a colleague).

Regarding locations on the North Coast, I would like to have ALL locations included of course. My only excuse is the immense number of historic localities around the country - I know that I have missed many, it's just a matter of lack of time to wade through all the lists, then search for the locality (often only shown on historic mapping or as "scars" in cadastre).
Any help in identifying difficult ones is appreciated.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
In a future version would it be possible to include the tramways of Brisbane and Rockhampton?

Keep up the excellent work.
  HairyLeg Junior Train Controller

Location: What's that smell?
GeoffreyHansen,

Ideally I would like to include all tramways, unfortunately I have no details of Brisbane tramways, and only the sketchy details of those of Rocky.
If someone could supply me with some good maps showing these tramways with street names I could very easily add them.
Ideally if there already existed a mapping layer (such as a kml/kmz file) I could just include them in the next update.

   HairyLeg
  Warks Minister for Railways

Location: Near H30+059
Warks,

Most of the green lines around Cobar are part of the "Great Cobar Copper Mining Co Ltd Firewood Tramway - 1889", as published in Light Railways October 1999, and in ARHS Bulletin 383, Sept 1969.
I agree, I would also expect to see some evidence in the air photos. Maybe the lower resolution of the Google Earth images in this area is to blame because there certainly was evidence on the ground when John Shoebridge visited the area in 1966 and 1969 to write his article.
The two longer lines not mentioned by Shoebridge are from another source that I can't put my finger on right now (I recall it was from a book I borrowed from a colleague).

Regarding locations on the North Coast, I would like to have ALL locations included of course. My only excuse is the immense number of historic localities around the country - I know that I have missed many, it's just a matter of lack of time to wade through all the lists, then search for the locality (often only shown on historic mapping or as "scars" in cadastre).
Any help in identifying difficult ones is appreciated.
"HairyLeg"


Okay thanks a lot.  It's all very interesting and will keep many of us busy for years.
Do you plan on naming the lines or leaving that to be worked out from the locations?  With the timber and mine lines it would be nice to have some labels even if they are "mouse-over" balloon type labels.
Yes I understand it's a work in progress.  Just thinking of down the track when you are looking for more work! Very Happy
  scrat Assistant Commissioner

Location: Fitzroy North
HairyLeg, Your KML shows a line North East from Resevoir Station in Melbourne's North Heading towards South Morang. I have never heard of this line and can't find any info.
It's not listed on the maps at http://www.vrhistory.com/VRMaps/ either.
Could you please tell me where you found out that this was a train line?

Liam.
  bronwyn Train Controller

Location: from Rocky to pommy land! and now I am back in the nations capital serving the public
i have got some good info and maps on the rockhampton tram lines that i will be updating one day this decade. i shall see if i can remember to send you the map.

you can still see a bit of evidence of the tram lines around rockhampton n the roads although my father can see a lot more of them having been a young boy during the war their. next trip we shall have to take photos of this.

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