New locomotives

 
  DQ2004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Hobart -where the rain has lumps in it



Hi all, I know I promised some pictures and ain't followed through, but maybe this is one. Then again maybe it aint.

I can't tell what it is other than something little and it got a yellow cat motor. Look like they switching it to another track. That shop laid out with lots of short tracks side side so most shops like that they do certain jobs on one track then move to next track. Almost like an assembly line but it move slow real slow. That how our NS shops do overhauls move units from from stage to stage.

My cousin-in-law a csx conductor he took this from the csx main line by progress rail patterson. He zoomed in the middle way up close and crop it, that picture taken from way far back so sorry it not any clearer than this.

https://plus.google.com/photos/101076501901548664984/albums/5856862560760670513?banner=pwa

I not very good at posting pictures and my wife will help post pictures of the kids but she cant be bothered help me with pictures of motors so somebody let me know if this works or not.

Toby

"nstobyt"


I'd say that is definitely one (or rather the first one) of our TR's. The cab looks to be a match for what we've seen of the design.  The size looks correct too.
Well done Toby!


Regards,
Toby !



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  i_know_nothing Train Controller

Yes, thanks Toby! So tiny compared to the "small" switcher!
  nstobyt Beginner
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
Interesting looking things. Seem, small somewhat.
  BP4417 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Launceston, Tasmania
The cab roof profile is a bit "X"ish
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Interesting looking things. Seem, small somewhat.
Z1NorthernProgress2110

They won't be so bad once they arrive, the English class 66's looked ridiculous being delivered by US locos to the docks as well.
Actually, there is a bit of a class 66 look in the front end.
  DQ2004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Hobart -where the rain has lumps in it
The cab roof profile is a bit "X"ish
BP4417
Indeed. In fact, other than the cabside doors & the bogies, the new TR's are basically the same arrangement as the X, just upscaled a bit!

Personally I think they look good, although I hope the revised colour scheme as per Railway Digest is improved a bit, with the more red the better, IMHO.

I must get out there a bit more - there'll come a day when we may get sick of these new locos on every train, and wish for the variation we have now!

Regards,

Toby
  neil steel Station Master

They look similar to the MKA's only with a flat front. I'd imagine the cab front corners will cause concern with the rather bad blind spot they will have!
  nstobyt Beginner

Was down at my in-laws this last week. Took these through the fence at patterson about 10PM. Summer here and all the doors open. That a 16 cylinder cat motor sitting next to one of them I thought I read on here that your gonna have 12 cylinder engines?

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  CodyW Junior Train Controller

Location: Launceston, Tasmania
Some news and images on the new TR class released by TasRail today.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=576157529070952&set=a.248753938477981.59977.246907098662665&type=1&theater
  BP4417 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Launceston, Tasmania
I note the speel sais 45% more haulage capacity. 45% more than what?
For example if you add 45% to the 1978 load table for a single Z / ZA locomotive from Launceston to Bell Bay the load was 1420 tonnes. 1420 tonnes + 45% = 2059 tonnes, that is 639 tonnes more for a single loco.
I note the 2 stroke diesels were not included in the fuel inefficient loco photos.
  Krel4203 Locomotive Driver

I note the speel sais 45% more haulage capacity. 45% more than what?
For example if you add 45% to the 1978 load table for a single Z / ZA locomotive from Launceston to Bell Bay the load was 1420 tonnes. 1420 tonnes + 45% = 2059 tonnes, that is 639 tonnes more for a single loco.
I note the 2 stroke diesels were not included in the fuel inefficient loco photos.
"BP4417"


3 of the 4 photos of the old fleet are 2-stroke EMDs.
  BP4417 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Launceston, Tasmania
3 of the 4 photos of the old fleet are 2-stroke EMDs.
Krel4203
Maybe I should have said, I note that the same type of 2 stroke diesels are on both sides of the fuel ledger, inefficient - efficient.
  Krel4203 Locomotive Driver

Maybe I should have said, I note that the same type of 2 stroke diesels are on both sides of the fuel ledger, inefficient - efficient.
"BP4417"


TR class are 4 stroke.
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
BP I am aware of the fuel economy of road use CAT engines I'd suggest the units being fitted in the TR's should use less than half the fuel compared to the best of the current 2 strokes, they should be as different as chalk and cheese
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Says a lot about Dulux overhauls.
A DQ in red is old and inefficient, after a coat of yellow and grey it's modern and efficient Smile

Guess i'm reading too much into a little marketing brochure...
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Says a lot about Dulux overhauls.
A DQ in red is old and inefficient, after a coat of yellow and grey it's modern and efficient Smile

Guess i'm reading too much into a little marketing brochure...
lkernan

I want that paint on my old car!
  DQ2004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Hobart -where the rain has lumps in it
I note the speel sais 45% more haulage capacity. 45% more than what?
For example if you add 45% to the 1978 load table for a single Z / ZA locomotive from Launceston to Bell Bay the load was 1420 tonnes. 1420 tonnes + 45% = 2059 tonnes, that is 639 tonnes more for a single loco.
I note the 2 stroke diesels were not included in the fuel inefficient loco photos.
BP4417
From what Damien has said, 45% more than the current fleet, ie. taking into account greater availability, better traction, more power, more reliability etc.  I don't think they're talking about per loco, but the total.

In other words don't expect much of the current fleet to keep going.  We will probably have a lot more trains running around with just a single loco pulling too.

Regards,

Toby
  BP4417 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Launceston, Tasmania
Maybe I should have said, I note that the same type of 2 stroke diesels are on both sides of the fuel ledger, inefficient - efficient.
BP4417
2 stroke DQ's are on both side of the page. The proof will be when the new locos are operational. I think in earlier reports there was a maximum tonnage that the new single locos could haul, I think this was in the vacinity of 90 tonnes. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Don't get me wrong I applaud new locomotives coming to Tasmania.
  DQ2004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Hobart -where the rain has lumps in it
2 stroke DQ's are on both side of the page. The proof will be when the new locos are operational. I think in earlier reports there was a maximum tonnage that the new single locos could haul, I think this was in the vacinity of 90 tonnes. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Don't get me wrong I applaud new locomotives coming to Tasmania.
BP4417
I'm assuming your 90t is a typo there.
I think the fact that DQ's are both sides of the sheet has more to do with the paint job on them rather than any 'future fleet' implications

Regards,

Toby
  JNSymes Junior Train Controller

Says a lot about Dulux overhauls.
A DQ in red is old and inefficient, after a coat of yellow and grey it's modern and efficient Smile

Guess i'm reading too much into a little marketing brochure...
lkernan
Obviously never seen MightyCarMods on Youtube then.

Their logic will suggest that, with enough frangipani stickers & painted brake parts, that Little DQ will be able to single handedly pull a BNSF stacktrain up Cajon Pass............With 5 SD70's pulling the other way................
  tasstockau Station Staff

I think the 45% will be found to be a 45% increase on the average haulage capacity of the existing fleet over the ruling grade on the system which is northbound through the ryhndaston tunnel.

On the information available to me I have calculated the weighted average capacity of the existing regular mainline fleet (not Y's and ZB's) to be 467 tonnes over this section. 45% increase results 677 tonnes per loco which roughly concurs with the 700 tonnes through the tunnel per loco target I have heard mentioned previously. My information may not be up to date or the mix of the fleet slightly different when the calculation was made which may account for the difference.

Assuming 2 locos at the head of each train will see slightly reduced overall loads from present which I understand will facilitate more regular departures and better utilisation of assets (although more drivers needed) through cutting down waiting/loading time at each end.

Interesting times.

Phil L
  tigers1960 Beginner

G'day all , Brand new to forum...an email friend of mine , Steve Jeffs, has worked in Tassie as a locomotive driver and wasn't a huge fan of some stuff..I think he favoured
the Alcos  but didn't mind the MKAs DQs sometimes..  I'm more upset about the rolling stock and being Chinese sourced....surely our own Tassie companies would have been a better option instead of "Made in China" stamp once again...  Cheers
  DQ2004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Hobart -where the rain has lumps in it
G'day all , Brand new to forum...an email friend of mine , Steve Jeffs, has worked in Tassie as a locomotive driver and wasn't a huge fan of some stuff..I think he favoured
the Alcos  but didn't mind the MKAs DQs sometimes..  I'm more upset about the rolling stock and being Chinese sourced....surely our own Tassie companies would have been a better option instead of "Made in China" stamp once again...  Cheers
tigers1960
I think we would have all preferred locally made rollingstock. Unfortunately (as far as I'm aware) the price was prohibitive. Blame the mining boom and the high Australian dollar, if you have to blame anything.
  DRR_Fireman Deputy Commissioner

Location: -
I personally believe it would've been better to spend a bit more to support local jobs.

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