Additional Adelaide Trams

 
  bobharris2002 Train Controller

Personally, I think that once the 6 Citadis trams were bought I think that killed the 4 extra flexitys.

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  Medo Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide

Please remember that the tram stop seen in the 2nd of Medo's photos was the end of the line before the Entertainment centre extension.
The powers to be designed the short single track section as a cheaper alternative to a cross over. It uses two points not four, and the right turn lane was a bonus! (btw it services a small carpark with limited capacity.
When the extension was built the man writing the cheques didn't want to write one to upgrade this bit!  Rolling Eyes
The turn lane was a bonus, NOT the reason (but many will try to tell you differently!)
"Pressman"


Very Happy

I have to disagree (on two points)
The first one – the photo is taken after the extension was finished (it’s clearly visible on the upper photo and it’s my photo 8). The photo is taken in October 2010 )... that is not so important...
The second point is more interesting. My workplace is not very far from that place so I talked during the building period with site manager and one member of the project team asking why they did not build the crossover. Their answer was very simple – a pressure from the convention center for a turning line. If I took this photo during the morning peak hours it will show different situation. The right turn is busy. By saying all that it does not mean that I am happy with rationale and present option but I hope it might be removed when tram traffic increases.... (one day) as that my become a bottleneck. At the moment is not an big issue.  

Medo
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Medo, I never disputed when the pic was taken, purely said that it was the end of the "original" extension from Vic Sq.
Also I wouldn't doubt the convention centre would have pressured for access to one of it's car parks (Interesting as it's government owned also)
The one thing you'll have also noticed is that 95% of the traffic that uses the lane uses it as a 'U' turn and not for car park access.
Also because of the loss of the "parking" lane on the north side of North tc to the west of the bridge, access to the convention centre loading dock has become a total nightmare during 'move in' and 'move out' times for events at the centre.
And don't I know it!! I've had to hold semi's back somewhere in Thebarton because the police wouldn't allow them to wait on North Tc. It's bad enough problem to warrant the convention centre to plan to increase the loading dock area. This will mean using the space between the bridge and the current loading dock (by further undergrounding the railway station)  

Anyways I agree the single line section became a joke when the 2nd extension was done.
And knowing someone (relative) on the 'inside' who has revealed that the points have become a "maintenance nightmare" since originally installed, the sooner they are removed the better. They are now no longer needed since the turn back was constructed closer to West Tc.
  Medo Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide

Smile

If misunderstand your words... than my apologies...and I think you are right about maintenance nightmare...

Medo
  msilsby Deputy Commissioner

Location: Canberra
Sounds like a new flexity is on the way from Germany. No ETA, although a few dates have been proposed.

Will land in melbourne for 'efforts' at Preston, before heading over on truck.


See the TDU forums for more info.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

Im guessing thats not Test Drive Unlimited (googled), what is the forum you mentioned?
  409 Minister for Railways

Photos of Adelaide Flexity tram 112 leaving the Bombardier plant in Germany have been posted here: http://tdu.to/149707.msg
  msilsby Deputy Commissioner

Location: Canberra
Trams Down Under. Sorry.

http://tdu.to/default.aspx


There was a delay to some sort of problem at the factory, I seem to remember.
  KymN Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney

There was a delay to some sort of problem at the factory, I seem to remember.
"msilsby"

The latest Railway Digest (April) says that two have arrived in Melbourne.  The other two were damaged in the German factory by flooding of the River Spree.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

Thanks for the forum update. Still wonder if we are going to be paying for AC, that we will have to replace?
  Halo Chief Train Controller

BTW, I thought we had a tram no 112. Our last number was 113.
  409 Minister for Railways

The current number series runs from 101 to 111. The original 103 was however destroyed on the ship in transit to Australia when part of the ship's loading broke free and made a mess of 103. A 12th Flexity was constructed and given the number 103 as a replacement for the original.

The new batch of 4 Flexities will be numbered 112-115.
  KymN Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Thanks for the forum update. Still wonder if we are going to be paying for AC, that we will have to replace?
"Halo"

The same Digest item notes that it understands that that the two cars in Melbourne are being held by Bombardier pending resolution of the AC legal issues.
Nice newsy issue of Digest actually  Very Happy .  Good mag.
  tranzitjim Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Thanks for the forum update. Still wonder if we are going to be paying for AC, that we will have to replace?
"Halo"

The same Digest item notes that it understands that that the two cars in Melbourne are being held by Bombardier pending resolution of the AC legal issues.
Nice newsy issue of Digest actually  Very Happy .  Good mag.
"KymN"


What AC legal issues?

Do you mean Adelaide Council, or Alternating Current?
  tranzitjim Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Would there be any chance that Melbourne could 'borrow' 4x demonstrator trams for a week or two.

Could of been handy to of had them sent here before the Grand Prix, before being sent over to Adelaide.
  Xgentric Chief Commissioner

- Or maybe even Airken Dishening?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Thanks for the forum update. Still wonder if we are going to be paying for AC, that we will have to replace?
"Halo"

The same Digest item notes that it understands that that the two cars in Melbourne are being held by Bombardier pending resolution of the AC legal issues.
Nice newsy issue of Digest actually  Very Happy .  Good mag.
"KymN"


What AC legal issues?

Do you mean Adelaide Council, or Alternating Current?
"tranzitjim"


Air Conditioning issues
  ET423 Train Controller

Location: Earth
it's good that i was wrong:

The State Government has also announced that the first of four more Flexity Class trams will be arriving from Germany next month to start operating later in the year.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/our-historic-trams-wont-be-scrapped/story-fn6bqpju-1226046537236

hoping they dont cover them in advertising, the older Flexitys are now as bad as the 3000 trains used to be, cant see anything out the foggy windows, and they look filthy on the outside too Mad
  Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner

Location: FL390
A new Bombardier Flexity tram (No.112?) was unloaded from the Norwegian ship Talisman at Appleton Dock berth D this afternoon.

  Halo Chief Train Controller

Oh dear, I see what looks like factory air conditioning.  Evil or Very Mad
  tonyp Chief Commissioner

Location: Shoalhaven
How does that middle section go around bends, with two fixed bogies in a long rigid unit?
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Actually, I have noticed that those bogies do actually turn.
  tonyp Chief Commissioner

Location: Shoalhaven
Actually, I have noticed that those bogies do actually turn.
"Myrtone"

So if they have bogies that turn under the low floor area why can't they have low floor through the bogies in the end units? Anyone got a photo of the bogie area inside the middle car of an Adelaide Flexity?
  Brendan03 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Is this what you want?
  tonyp Chief Commissioner

Location: Shoalhaven
Thanks Brendan03. It's hard to imagine much pivot there as the floor is too low for a pivot point. Must be more a case of some flexibility in the suspension (which is why they have the high floor at the ends to allow the bogie to pivot).

I know there is only one big curve in your line (which doesn't help observation much!) but can you see these middle bogies turning on the curve like the outer ones?

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