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      AzN_dj Chief Commissioner

    Location: Along route 69
    The new cafe on Platform 4 at Caulfield is starting to look good, and it can't be that far off from being ready.

    Unfortunately I dont have any photos here, but Im sure other people have some.

    Would anybody here know a possible opening date, and contact details possibly?
    Posted: 19 Nov 2010 17:07

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      Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner

    Location: FL390
    It doesn't look anywhere near ready to open yet, still boarded up on both sides (I assume there won't be PL4 access?). The main structure was only completed a week or so ago, here's a pic taken from PL3.

    Posted: 19 Nov 2010 22:48
      heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

    Does my staff EFTA get me a free coffee?
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 00:02
      Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

    Location: Banned
    Oh god, thats a Cafe!?!?
    I somehow get a horrible horrible feeling that is not boarding and is some kind of high class, expensive and horrifyingly ugly paneling.
    "miss_x"
    Sadly, I think you're right.  Marine ply seems to be the latest in fashion at the moment.
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 00:11
      AclassGunzel Deputy Commissioner

    I  wouldn't mind seeing these spread out across the network if that is part of the plan. Reminds me of VR cafe's/refreshment rooms
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 01:20
      TheLoadedDog The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Why can't we have this?

    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 02:00
      tomohawk Chief Commissioner

    Location: Getting The Met to get around
    I usually quite like modern design, but that thing is putrid.
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 03:12
      xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

    Location: Geelong
    And I thought Federation Square was bad.

    I think I have a fairly active imagination, but in this case, it has unusually failed me  Spew
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 03:30
      A4000Bear Junior Train Controller

    Location: Taradale, Vic
    Is it built from bare Corten steel and left to rust?

    If so it might rust to a more uniform colour, but no one will ever see it like that. It will be a magnet for graffiti and posters.

    It still looks like a toilet though....
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 10:16
      jfan Chief Train Controller

    The more "rusted" colour thinner sections facing the platform (in the photo above) are mesh covering the windows, probably to stop the glass from being smashed. The other side has a coffee window (underneath a new next bus/train) sign as well as full height glass towards the down end.
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 11:46
      AzN_dj Chief Commissioner

    Location: Along route 69
    Hey guys - has anybody worked out who to contact about the cafe at this stage? Also when it *might* be opening?
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 12:06
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Does my staff EFTA get me a free coffee?
    "heisdeadjim"


    What the hell is a EFTA - we don't all work for whoever it is.............. Question

    Is it related to a BOBO, BYAD or DADFA, perhaps Question
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 14:35
      tomohawk Chief Commissioner

    Location: Getting The Met to get around
    Does my staff EFTA get me a free coffee?
    "heisdeadjim"


    What the hell is a EFTA - we don't all work for whoever it is.............. Question

    Is it related to a BOBO, BYAD or DADFA, perhaps Question
    "YM-Mundrabilla"


    And as such the question probably doesn't relate to you.

    Employee Free Travel Authority (has been replaced with Myki passes).
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 15:00
      heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

    True, I still call it an EFTA.

    Employee Free Travel Authority.

    Apologies for jargoning up there.
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 15:24
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Thanks Comrades.

    (Curiosity killed the cat).

    It was a pass in my day but that was obviously too simple a description for use in the modern world.

    (If you cannot fix it - change its name and if that doesn't work paint it another colour. Either way the 'passholders' are the only ones who get 'value for money' these days).

    Keep smiling
    Posted: 20 Nov 2010 17:41
      AzN_dj Chief Commissioner

    Location: Along route 69
    Back to my original question.....

    Does anybody know any contact details for who might be running it? And when it may be opening?
    Posted: 21 Nov 2010 20:02
      steveo2004 Chief Commissioner

    I have not used the railways for some time now and the other day coming from Cranbourne to the City we pulled in and I had to look twice, wtf was metro thinking? out of all the good things that money could have gone too they build a cafe to go into comp with the hot food vendors in the walkway.

    The station looked better with out that dam thing.
    Posted: 28 Dec 2010 21:50
      handyandy Junior Train Controller

    Is the cafe the only thing they are going to do to the station? And is this part of a grand plan for them to sprout all over the network?
    Posted: 30 Dec 2010 17:42
      ChoooChoo Chief Train Controller

    Is the cafe the only thing they are going to do to the station? And is this part of a grand plan for them to sprout all over the network?
    "handyandy"


    From the Metro website:

    Bringing Stations to Life will turn train stations into hubs of community activity.

    Metro aims to return train stations to the community through smart utilisation of land and introducing a wider array of services.

    The redevelopment of Caulfield Station is the first Bringing Stations to Life project to be undertaken by Metro.


    So further ones are on the cards by the sounds of it. I think what they're trying to do is like what's done in Hong Kong, where the rail operators (linked to Metro?) develop real estate around the railway to jack up the price of land and have an added source of revenue.

    I think it's quiet a good idea and has the potential to cut the cost  of maintaining rail infrastructure and just creating a better environment overall + purcahse trains (long run). But we still have a very long way of going.

    It's still too early to comment about the Caulfield one, I haven't seen it from the side of the street, only from the train side (not really much to see except rusted metal  Smile ) and at the moment it feels like it's ruined the heritage feel of Caulfield, but must wait and see!

    by the way, it's good to be joining this forum Smile
    Posted: 31 Dec 2010 00:10
      Brendan03 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Sydney

    So further ones are on the cards by the sounds of it. I think what they're trying to do is like what's done in Hong Kong, where the rail operators (linked to Metro?) develop real estate around the railway to jack up the price of land and have an added source of revenue.

    I think it's quiet a good idea and has the potential to cut the cost  of maintaining rail infrastructure and just creating a better environment overall + purcahse trains (long run). But we still have a very long way of going.

    It's still too early to comment about the Caulfield one, I haven't seen it from the side of the street, only from the train side (not really much to see except rusted metal  Smile ) and at the moment it feels like it's ruined the heritage feel of Caulfield, but must wait and see!

    by the way, it's good to be joining this forum Smile
    "ChoooChoo"


    MTR of Hong Kong are indeed linked to Metro, They are one of the main companies involved in Metro (MTR of Hong Kong are the majority owner of Metro, The other being John Holland Group and United Group Rail)

    I don't think we'll see Metro buying up land near Rail reservations, however, as far as trying to make the stations a bit more like the Hong Kong set-up, We may see something similar... however Metro themselfs don't have the money to do much in terms of station investment outside of their Franchise agreements...
    The Caulfield concept is a 'cheap' initiative to put more money back into reviving our stations... A cheap cafe which isn't directly associated with the station itself isn't going to do much but It is nice to see them trying...

    Welcome to Railpage. ChoooChoo.
    Posted: 31 Dec 2010 00:19
      wongm GEEWONG

    Location: Geelong, Victoria
    So further ones are on the cards by the sounds of it. I think what they're trying to do is like what's done in Hong Kong, where the rail operators (linked to Metro?) develop real estate around the railway to jack up the price of land and have an added source of revenue.
    "ChoooChoo"


    MTR of Hong Kong are indeed linked to Metro, They are one of the main companies involved in Metro (MTR of Hong Kong are the majority owner of Metro, The other being John Holland Group and United Group Rail)
    "Brendan03"

    Would you want Metro to be able to cut off your home water supply?

    Posted: 31 Dec 2010 15:17
      prometheus_au Chief Train Controller

    In relation to the Cafe, I thinks it looks good.

    If Metro want to place these at EVERY premium station, so be it. If they can be run at a profit then that means the system has more money overall and that can't be a bad thing.

    They're clearly into real estate and commercial property development over and around train lines, there are many nay sayers concerning Metro's interest in these two areas. If it means more money ging back into the system, they can, IMHO, develop to their hearts content. It also means if there are more people around station areas using the facilities, the safer those stations will be and perhaps more people using the service.
    Posted: 02 Jan 2011 15:12
      DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

    Who actually owns that eyesore?

    MTM have seven years of an eight year operation contract to go.
    Victrack own the land.

    Has MTM taken out a lease on that portion of the station and built that themselves with the length of tenure being that of the Victrack lease?

    Or is it, once again, our old friends at the Department of Transport owning the eyesore via Victrack and allowing MTM to claim credit for initiating the project?
    Posted: 02 Jan 2011 20:42
      Attila76 Junior Train Controller

    I believe it now belongs to DOT, it's meant to be a "gift" to the gubmint from MTM for giving them the contract.
    Posted: 02 Jan 2011 20:45
      DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

    a "gift" to the gubmint from MTM for giving them the contract.


    Thats corruption!
    Posted: 02 Jan 2011 20:56

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