Where am I Victoria? - Non Cryptic - #3

 
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Mike McCarthy appears to be right.  My source was the spring 1967 issue of Light Railways.  I suspect from the wording the author (M. Plummer) wanted to say the Fowler from Darnum went to Warburton, but without absolute proof was too cautious to make that assertion.  I have now found a later edition of the same publication (December 2009), in which Frank Stamford says the Fowler did go to Warburton.
Faredodger
A bit off topic for this thread, but if Mike makes a statement, I have a great deal of confidence that he has determined that statement to be true. He frequently tells us that after 10-20 years of research into a subject, it's not until he sits down and begins writing a book that he finds out what he doesn't know, and then spends sometimes many years getting all those answers. I went with him on 4 or 5 research trips to South Gippsland while he was writing In the Shadow of the Prom to "tie up a few loose ends". I'm equally sure that if Frank says the Fowler went to Warburton he would be referring to Mountains of Ash - or like Mark he would have qualified that remark.

Back to the quiz in a tick, when this very slow Railpage lets me...

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  duttonbay Minister for Railways

None of Melton, Stratford, Dennington, Cavendish or Casterton

We are looking for a station immediately adjacent to a bridge.
The distance from the station to the bridge is very similar to the length of the bridge.
A siding was located less than 1km from the station
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Curdie?
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
I might go for the obvious - Donald?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Kilcunda?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Curdie?
"Faredodger"

Curdie is the correct answer.  

The station was at 146¾ miles and the Victorian Agricultural Lime Co's Siding at 146¼.  Just half-a-mile (800 metres in the new-fangled measurement) between them, one on either side of the Curdie River trestle bridge (which on the rail trail seems to be called the Timboon Trestle for some reason). I must admit my clue about the distance from station to bridge, and length of bridge, was an estimate using google earth, but it seemed close enough to be used in the quiz.

Back to Faredodger for the next teaser.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

I think the quarry is still operating (or it was 18 months ago). Bottom right refers:
https://kurdeezminerals.com.au/gallery/
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
I hope this post works.  Railpage is playing up a bit.

Thanks, duttonbay.

We're now looking for a station on a closed line.  Not a terminus, but a train ran to this location a few days after the final revenue train to do a pick-up of rollingstock.
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Oh good, it appears to have worked.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I know this happened at Mirboo North, but the train ran to the terminus. Still thinking of others...
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
No, it's not Mirboo North.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
WSITD - Merton?
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Not Merton.

Further clue:  There was a tramway running from this location.
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Well, this one appears to have stagnated a bit.

Further clue:

At this location passengers could get refreshments, for at least part of its history.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Well, this one appears to have stagnated a bit.

Further clue:

At this location passengers could get refreshments, for at least part of its history.
Faredodger
WSITD: Trentham?  It's closed and did at least have a tramway
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Gellibrand
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
I can't find evidnce of refreshment facilities at Trentham, but it had two tramways in the early days, Hayden's and McPherson's, both on the down side of the line.  Gellibrand certainly did have a refreshment room at one stage, and I recall that my father told me it was quite good.

But the location we are seeking is neither Trentham nor Gellibrand.
  hbedriver Assistant Commissioner

Bit out of left field, thinking how they stored wagons here for a few years until they re-opened the line (for passengers only);

What about Middle Creek?
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Out of left field indeed, and ingenious.  But it isn't Middle Creek.

Further clue:  This location had a siding and watering facilities for most of its existence.  But it had neither when it opened.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I can't find evidnce of refreshment facilities at Trentham, but it had two tramways in the early days, Hayden's and McPherson's, both on the down side of the line.  Gellibrand certainly did have a refreshment room at one stage, and I recall that my father told me it was quite good.

But the location we are seeking is neither Trentham nor Gellibrand.
Faredodger
Trentham had TWO tramways? Wonders never cease.

What were they for?
  hbedriver Assistant Commissioner

Ah, yes, the little known Trentham Tramway System.

An unusual system, with one line being standard gauge, operated by battery electric vehicles.

The other line was narrow gauge, 2’, and operated by cable trams; sadly it folded when they realized there was insufficient width between the rails for the cable grip.

Am often surprised so little is known about them. The battery system relied on distilled water for the batteries; sadly the owners discovered a better use for the distillery, and that ended the fun....or started it!

(Sorry, Don’s invitation was irresistible)
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Regarding Trentham, Midgeley's log tram was braod gauge - this line contained the largest bridge in the Wombat Forest, 16 spans, 60 metres in length and 6 metres high. Hayden's log tram was also broad gauge, horse drawn. Neither made it into the 20th century. There were a number of other tramways in the vicinity, one known to be 3'6" gauge, connecting log cutting areas to sawmills. A couple of other trams connected the with the railway within a couple of kilometres of Trentham, to the east.
The full story of sawmilling in the Wombat Forest is in "Wombat Woodsmen" by Norman Houghton.
  Faredodger Assistant Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Interesting.  I haven't read Wombat Woodsmen, but have read a few of Norman Houghton's books and I rate them highly.

Anyway, let's get back to the quiz.  We're a little light on for guesses at the moment.  I find a summary helps:

A station on a closed line, not a terminus.
A train ran to this location a few days after the final revenue train to do a pick-up of rollingstock.
There were refreshment facilities at one time.
This location had a siding and watering facilities for most of its existence, but not when it opened.  So the engines could slake their thirst as well as the passengers.

Not:

Mirboo North
Merton
Trentham
Gellibrand
Middle Greek

Further clue:  A short distance in the down direction, a tramway actually crossed the V.R. line at one time.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Middle Greek!  Is that somebody between Phil and Joe, the owner of the local fish and chip shop?

Despite all the clues, I remain clueless at the moment. I will contemplate further...
  hbedriver Assistant Commissioner

Gould?

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