Rothbury Riot Railway collection?

 
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Speaking of R 766, from 2006 to now has been a very long "year" to how long it was supposed to have taken to be converted to SG and running again!
"Serviceton_Kev"

You are right, however I don't think boasting about it is necessary for this thread. It is nice to have an update of sorts though.

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  JoeT Assistant Commissioner

Speaking of R 766, from 2006 to now has been a very long "year" to how long it was supposed to have taken to be converted to SG and running again!
"Serviceton_Kev"


In a typical train buffs mind, probably only a few months before she's running around on tours packed with tourists every weekend on reopened lines, such as Dorrigo and Demondrille-Blayney, double-heading with 3813.

But thats enough of the fairytails......

Its all about the resources. If an organisation has the right amount of money and man-power, you wouldn't think it should take anymore than five years at best, especially given the fact R766 was in otherwise good working order. But you look at whats happened with 3801 and it shows what can go wrong when a steam locomotives restoration is undertaken by people who don't quite know what they're doing.

I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting to see R766 running around anytime soon though, and even then not as some have planned. Thats just my gut feeling......
  Serviceton_Kev Chief Commissioner

Location: Fecking here!
Speaking of R 766, from 2006 to now has been a very long "year" to how long it was supposed to have taken to be converted to SG and running again!
"Serviceton_Kev"


In a typical train buffs mind, probably only a few months before she's running around on tours packed with tourists every weekend on reopened lines, such as Dorrigo and Demondrille-Blayney, double-heading with 3813.

But thats enough of the fairytails......

Its all about the resources. If an organisation has the right amount of money and man-power, you wouldn't think it should take anymore than five years at best, especially given the fact R766 was in otherwise good working order. But you look at whats happened with 3801 and it shows what can go wrong when a steam locomotives restoration is undertaken by people who don't quite know what they're doing.

I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting to see R766 running around anytime soon though, and even then not as some have planned. Thats just my gut feeling......
"JoeT"


She was such a nice loco too....*sigh*
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
I'm guessing that Alco 4472 might end up with QUBE or someone similar.
  Comeng Chief Train Controller

The new Hunter Expressway is not blocking either the branch to Rothbury or the main line & sidings. Rothbury is still being used  by a contractor to PN doing modifications to coal hoppers& the last set of hoppers went in there only within the last 10 days or so. There are pillars in place to carry  the Expressway  over all rail lines just west of Branxton, these pillars do not have the header beam in position yet but should at the next close downs in either March  13-17 or May 15-19.
"wally-wowser1"


Wally - thankyou for clarifying this! I thought it odd that a new road would be allowed to cut off a still-used siding. 
"Raichase"


Raichase, I concur with Wally in regards to the construction of the bridge over the branch and the main lines. at Branxton. The abutment was placed adajacent to the branch with plenty of clearance for trains to continue to move into and out of Rothbury without a problem.

The branch and siding behind platform 2 at Branxton Station has been closed once or twice for a short period while new drainage was installed.

Comeng.
  wally-wowser1 Train Controller

Location: overlooking the Mt vic washaway on Soldiers Pinch
The central pier section is still not finished with the western pier still only at ground level, reo & formwork is being assembled on site ready  for placement on the ground bearer, the crossmember pre made concrete spans are already on site ready to be placed after the western pier has cured.  To the general observer  it looked like they struck trouble with the eastern pier because  the formwork & massive scaffolding were left in place for a long time [about 3 months] but  this  could have  just been  their work schedule. There are 3 more total shutdowns this year so maybe we will see the expressway overpass  finished by then. Just looking at the amount of traffic that is on the New England Hwy at  mine  shift changeover times it wont be  before time  but i doubt if  many  miners will use  the EXP as  it is really only diverting  the Sydney Newcastle EXP traffic away  from the local roads between Thorton & Singleton.

Wally
  mikado5910 Chief Train Controller

Location: Kurri Kurri NSW
The central pier section is still not finished with the western pier still only at ground level, reo & formwork is being assembled on site ready  for placement on the ground bearer, the crossmember pre made concrete spans are already on site ready to be placed after the western pier has cured.  To the general observer  it looked like they struck trouble with the eastern pier because  the formwork & massive scaffolding were left in place for a long time [about 3 months] but  this  could have  just been  their work schedule. There are 3 more total shutdowns this year so maybe we will see the expressway overpass  finished by then. Just looking at the amount of traffic that is on the New England Hwy at  mine  shift changeover times it wont be  before time  but i doubt if  many  miners will use  the EXP as  it is really only diverting  the Sydney Newcastle EXP traffic away  from the local roads between Thorton & Singleton.

Wally
"wally-wowser1"


Wally,

Lots of those workers come from Lake Mac and the Central Coast, and will use the expressway instead of coming through Cessnock. Ncle-based workers will probably come out through Wallsend and straight up the main drag. Have to wait and see what others do, but a run up John Renshaw to the Buchanan interchange from Thornton might save a heap of time as well.

Projections are for 40 000 vehicle movements per day, which is only 10 000 less than current F3 traffic Wyee-Thornton, so probably significant commuter element.
  wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
I'm getting real tired with whoever keeps posting in this thread then deleting their post - coz I keep having to come back to the thread & resubscribe! Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
I'm getting real tired with whoever keeps posting in this thread then deleting their post - coz I keep having to come back to the thread & resubscribe! Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
"wurx"


It was me mate, I'm really sorry, I tried to put some recent photos of mine on this thread from my Photobucket account, however when the photos turned out on my (pre-deleted) post, it was failing to loaded on the page so I delete the post so then I don't disappoint anyone with no photos in blank spots, better off to see them in my account rather than me uploading them on Railpage.


  wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
I'm getting real tired with whoever keeps posting in this thread then deleting their post - coz I keep having to come back to the thread & resubscribe! Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
"wurx"


It was me mate, I'm really sorry, I tried to put some recent photos of mine on this thread from my Photobucket account, however when the photos turned out on my (pre-deleted) post, it was failing to loaded on the page so I delete the post so then I don't disappoint anyone with no photos in blank spots, better off to see them in my account rather than me uploading them on Railpage Australia.

"jt393"

Yeah fair enough mate Smile

So there'll be a linky to these photos soon then? Very Happy
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
I'm getting real tired with whoever keeps posting in this thread then deleting their post - coz I keep having to come back to the thread & resubscribe! Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
"wurx"


It was me mate, I'm really sorry, I tried to put some recent photos of mine on this thread from my Photobucket account, however when the photos turned out on my (pre-deleted) post, it was failing to loaded on the page so I delete the post so then I don't disappoint anyone with no photos in blank spots, better off to see them in my account rather than me uploading them on Railpage Australia.

"jt393"

Yeah fair enough mate Smile

So there'll be a linky to these photos soon then? Very Happy
"wurx"


The link to my photo account is: s1058.photobucket.com/albums/t404/JT93Godzilla/

Their are only 56 photos in the album, so It won't be hard to find the page with the HVRT's loco's in there.

BTW, the link is also in my thread in the rail photography page on this website.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Here is the link:
http://s1058.photobucket.com/albums/t404/JT93Godzilla/
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Here is the link:
http://s1058.photobucket.com/albums/t404/JT93Godzilla/
"Graham4405"


Looks like R766 is painted in grey primer....  Would love to see her running parallel with another R-class loco between Mangalore and Broadmeadows at speed.
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
I find it very interesting to see that people (especially Victorians)  mostly like to talk about R766 in HVRT-related threads (rather than talking about other stuff stored around the place), do all the Victorian users on here, miss seeing and having her in your state?

I heard that the Huntlee development plans had fallen through, so HVRT's future shouldn't be in much doubt at all.


  VBAndy Chief Commissioner

Being a Victorian engine that was preserved operational a decade ago in its home state, of course people are curious to know what's happening with it across the border.

Not that it personally bothers me, but since 766 crossed state lines, very little information has been made readily available to the public, hence high interest from Mexicans.

Seems fairly straight forward I thought.
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
Being a Victorian engine that was preserved operational a decade ago in its home state, of course people are curious to know what's happening with it across the border. Not that it personally bothers me, but since 766 crossed state lines, very little information has been made readily available to the public, hence high interest from Mexicans.Seems fairly straight forward I thought.
"VBAndy"


I'm curious as well, Like I mention in the recent forum about R700, I'll be good to see a R Class Hudson Gathering in a few years time, how about that, I'll be perfect.

Out of interest, so your saying that New South Wales is USA, while Victoria is Mexico, correct? Sounds like that there is a tradition of a friendly rivalry between states (particulary in Sports, more recently between Storms and Bulldogs), isn't Australia trying to copy off the Americans? because they innovate this type of thing. Hope everyone understands the comparison.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
I'll be perfect.
"jt393"


ROFL, that'll be the day... Wink
  VBAndy Chief Commissioner

Sorry, I speak English.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Out of interest, so your saying that New South Wales is USA, while Victoria is Mexico, correct? Sounds like that there is a tradition of a friendly rivalry between states (particulary in Sports, more recently between Storms and Bulldogs), isn't Australia trying to copy off the Americans? because they innovate this type of thing. Hope everyone understands the comparison.
"jt393"


Nothing really to do with copying anyone or pretending to be the USA.

Yes, the term comes from the USA, Mexicans are "Those who live south of the Border"

So in terms of Australia, the reference is to Victorians as they are "south of the Border"

Equally, Queenslanders could call New South Wales people Mexicans, and Northern Territorians could call South Australians Mexicans .....both cases fit the comment
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Out of interest, so your saying that New South Wales is USA, while Victoria is Mexico, correct? Sounds like that there is a tradition of a friendly rivalry between states (particulary in Sports, more recently between Storms and Bulldogs), isn't Australia trying to copy off the Americans? because they innovate this type of thing. Hope everyone understands the comparison.
"jt393"
Nothing really to do with copying anyone or pretending to be the USA.Yes, the term comes from the USA, Mexicans are "Those who live south of the Border"So in terms of Australia, the reference is to Victorians as they are "south of the Border"Equally, Queenslanders could call New South Wales people Mexicans, and Northern Territorians could call South Australians Mexicans .....both cases fit the comment
"Pressman"


I guess it could be said by Victorians that Queenslanders are Canadians and New South Welsh are Yanks WinkTwisted Evil
  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
Speaking of America, when HVRT use to own the 44 Class (now QUBE's), were they responsible on painting 4488 in New Central Railroad purple and silver livery? Making it look like 4488 operates in the USA as well as lived their.

I've read on an old Railpage thread, that  HVRT back then, were planning on painting the rest of their 44's in American inspired liveries. Thank God that didn't happen because this is Australia, not the USA.

To talk away from America, does anyone notice that 4461's old livery (before the red terror) is based on the Tasmanian Government Railway's blood and cream livery, same style scheme as the X & XA class over in the island state. That's what I think.

I find it funny when 4458 start in the olive green and white scheme, it was fresh, however few years laters it was dirty and stained, looking like the scheme has turned from olive green to black and never got cleaned, not till she got paint in really freshed silver streak livery as part of IRA, after the HVRT sold her and the others to them.


  jt393 Assistant Commissioner

Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
This is what Huntlee would look like in a few years time
  SinCity Assistant Commissioner

Location: Maitland
Sorry to flog a dead horse but I heard as recent as of last week that scrapping is going to happen as he no longer owns the land? Sold out to Huntlee maybe? Reducing the size of the "collection"

Has anyone any more updates on this?

My info has come from a family member of the owner but won't divulge anything else beyond what I've mentioned.
  7006 Locomotive Driver

Sorry to flog a dead horse but I heard as recent as of last week that scrapping is going to happen as he no longer owns the land? Sold out to Huntlee maybe? Reducing the size of the "collection"

Has anyone any more updates on this?

My info has come from a family member of the owner but won't divulge anything else beyond what I've mentioned.
SinCity

It has been no secret what is not moved will be scrapped. The law is clear it is owner of the land who owns what is on it. Scrap other people’s rolling stock on others land has been done before approved by the courts. The price of scrap metal is $150 per ton.
  SinCity Assistant Commissioner

Location: Maitland
I've heard he has some people living IN a couple of train carriages? One that has a bar within it and a lot of really ornate woodwork... Carriage is blue on the outside? Anyone else have any more updates on the removal of the collection besides the SMR locos?

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