Crew Cars

 
  Clyde_AT26HC-2M Chief Train Controller

Would there be any chances of seeing some photos of the interiours of any of there crew cars at all? Andrew
"andrewstrains"


By Maaaark:

http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x21/Maaaark710EMD/?action=view&current=JTA2afterrefurb2.jpg
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x21/Maaaark710EMD/?action=view&current=JTA2afterrefurb1.jpg

There are some more floating around on Flickr in particular SCT's crew cars however Flickr is playing up on my PC......

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  Alco251_244 Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere

PN crew car BRS 225 which was badly damaged in a shunting incident at Spencer Jct on Australia Day has finally been repaired. I saw it at Islington Works yesterday on the way to work. This is the car which had one corner torn open by a 5-pack.


  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Looks good!

Also with that ex-Bluebird that was damaged in a washaway on the Tarcoola-Darwin line, did it get scrapped, or is it awaiting repairs?
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
No Rhys, the Edith River ex Bluebird 250/261 scrapped, there wasn't much of it left.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
No Rhys, the Edith River ex Bluebird 250/261 scrapped, there wasn't much of it left.
"alcoworldseries"


Now I remember, cheers.

Besides the 3 '280' class baggage cars, 250/261 wouldv'e been the first ex-Bluebird to be scrapped then. Hopefully no more end up like 250/261.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I am a little surprised that the Drivers' Union has not questioned the structural integrity of some of these crew cars/relay vans given the increased weight and speed of freight trains these days. We can only be thankful that the ex Bluebird at Edith River was unoccupied.

It will be interesting to see if the ATSB comes up with any recommendations/comments when they report on the Edith River derailment. 
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
No Rhys, the Edith River ex Bluebird 250/261 scrapped, there wasn't much of it left.
"alcoworldseries"


Now I remember, cheers.

Besides the 3 '280' class baggage cars, 250/261 wouldv'e been the first ex-Bluebird to be scrapped then. Hopefully no more end up like 250/261.
"greasyrhys"


I have a photo of it bent in half, wrapped around one of the bridge pylons! Definitly scrap metal!

PM me greasyrhys, I can email you a copy.
  Wrigleys Chief Train Controller

I am a little surprised that the Drivers' Union has not questioned the structural integrity of some of these crew cars/relay vans given the increased weight and speed of freight trains these days. We can only be thankful that the ex Bluebird at Edith River was unoccupied.

It will be interesting to see if the ATSB comes up with any recommendations/comments when they report on the Edith River derailment.
"YM-Mundrabilla"


Best go to the ATSB site and have a read, the report has been up for a month or so.


  Alco251_244 Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere
Most crew cars these days have had the underframes and drawgear strengthened for a drawbar rating of 1.8-2.2MN. Roughly this equates to an allowance of over 5000t behind them on a 1 in 45 grade.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
No Rhys, the Edith River ex Bluebird 250/261 scrapped, there wasn't much of it left.
"alcoworldseries"


Now I remember, cheers.

Besides the 3 '280' class baggage cars, 250/261 wouldv'e been the first ex-Bluebird to be scrapped then. Hopefully no more end up like 250/261.
"greasyrhys"
I have a photo of it bent in half, wrapped around one of the bridge pylons! Definitly scrap metal!PM me greasyrhys, I can email you a copy.
"Pressman"


Fair enough. Lucky there was no one on board that crew car, otherwise it would've been a lot worse.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I am a little surprised that the Drivers' Union has not questioned the structural integrity of some of these crew cars/relay vans given the increased weight and speed of freight trains these days. We can only be thankful that the ex Bluebird at Edith River was unoccupied.

It will be interesting to see if the ATSB comes up with any recommendations/comments when they report on the Edith River derailment.
"YM-Mundrabilla"


Best go to the ATSB site and have a read, the report has been up for a month or so.

"Wrigleys"


Well done - I should have checked.
Whilst the derailment and the weather have, no doubt, been well covered I consider the ATSB remiss in not at least confirming or otherwise the suitability of the Bluebird railcar for the purpose for which it was being used.
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
YM, Check Justins post re structural strength, in this case extremely lucky that the loco's didn't finish in the same position as the (empty) crewcar as could very easily been the case, GWA001 would have been in a similar condition to the former Bluebird, the crew's chances wouldn't have been real good, as with all workplaces it is about managing risk, and the question of structural strength of the various crew cars has been reviewed numerous times including by the RTBU. There is a set of engineering and functional criteria that must be met by all vehicles built/ rebuilt/ or overhauled as crew cars, case in point the program to upgrade the current FDAY/FDDY crew cars.
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
is this paint scheme on this BRS the same as RZEY2?
  Clyde_AT26HC-2M Chief Train Controller


hosk1956 would have more information with the work undertaken on strengthening the crew cars when they were rebuilt from passenger cars.
  Clyde_AT26HC-2M Chief Train Controller

I have added a collection of photos on my Blogspot of GWA's ADFY crew cars for those interested in the mods done.

http://chappys-modelling.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/gwa-adfy-crew-cars.html

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