Federal Election-September 14 2013

 
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
On another note, I heard some time between nine and ten this morning that Windsor has cleared the way for Barnaby Joyce to lead the Nationals in the House of Representatives. With Oakeshott announcing his retirement earlier, it seems that both have suffered with the venomous ranting and drivel of people like 2301.
Speed
Maybe 2301 wasn't the only one.   Taps on the shoulder all around???

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  Speed Minister for Railways

Peter Garrett had said that he would resign his ministerial position if Rudd became Labor leader. It seems that Wayne Swan was the "first to jump" and that there might be more pro-Gillard stalwarts following.

A substantial cabinet-reshuffle now would be pointless so it's forcing the Prime Minister to call an election sooner. Even so, it would be hard for Swan to get the Treasurer's position back, which is a pity. In circles that compare the performance of treasurers and finance ministers in managing economies he will stay highly esteemed for decades. Unfortunately, he was poor in conveying his achievements to voters. He's unlikely ever to be Prime Minister.

Senator Conroy is someone whose resignation will be warmly received by those who remember "clean feed" proposal. I suspect that there's so little discussion of policy in the past year that more people remember Conroy's underpants quotation than any serious ideas that he considered.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Election may go early then? These two independents may side with Rudd knowing it matters little. If election is called immediately, thats about 3rd week of July or on current plan mid Sept. 7-8 weeks difference without the house sitting, diffeernce, minimal.
"RTT_Rules"

July 15 is the earliest possible date, July 20 being the earliest practicable date. If the election is not held on September 14 my money is on August 3.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
The Mole TV show spoiler - Bill Shorten?
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Peter Garrett had said that he would resign his ministerial position if Rudd became Labor leader. It seems that Wayne Swan was the "first to jump" and that there might be more pro-Gillard stalwarts following.

A substantial cabinet-reshuffle now would be pointless so it's forcing the Prime Minister to call an election sooner. Even so, it would be hard for Swan to get the Treasurer's position back, which is a pity. In circles that compare the performance of treasurers and finance ministers in managing economies he will stay highly esteemed for decades. Unfortunately, he was poor in conveying his achievements to voters. He's unlikely ever to be Prime Minister.

Senator Conroy is someone whose resignation will be warmly received by those who remember "clean feed" proposal. I suspect that there's so little discussion of policy in the past year that more people remember Conroy's underpants quotation than any serious ideas that he considered.
"Speed"

Garret, Conroy, and Emerson are all not going to contest the next election, the later presumably is not going to stick around without his former girlfriend being there.

The question I am most keen to pose is will Rudd restore Trish Crossin to the top of the Labor NT senate ticket as a 'Captain's (re)pick'? - I tend to hope he will.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The Mole TV show spoiler - Bill Shorten?
"Donald"

Rumour has it that Gillard was a conservative plant in the ALP to make them look bad, as a double agent she might well have been the best PM the Liberals ever had!
  VRfan Moderator

Location: In front of my computer :-p
I don't think there will be a no confidence motion after hearing Abbotts reply tonight. If he does it now (with only one sitting day left) it just makes him look power hungry. If Abbott wants to project a statesman like image and "get parliament out of the gutter" like he claims then it would be better for his image to just campaign for the next election.

With that being said, I think Rudd is a far more formidable opponent on a campaign than Gillard. Out of the three of them, Rudd had the best speech. Abbott looked totally unprepared. However, as we know with Rudd Mk 1, it was mostly spin and very little substance.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
A lot of people seem to forget what a little megalomaniac KRudd was.   Fair shake of the sauce bottle!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A lot of people seem to forget what a little megalomaniac KRudd was.   Fair shake of the sauce bottle!
Donald

He was indeed.  It is what it is.  How would this country look last night in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have just knifed our first female prime minister.  Interesting view. Anyhow.

Yep. Rudd is back up and running.  I recall a memorable quote from the movie "The Club" being Hayward off Simpson on.  

Now we have Gillard off Rudd On!

Regards
Brian
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
How would this country look last night in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have just knifed our first female prime minister.
"bevans"


Much the same as it looked when she knifed her way into the job, I should imagine.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Glad that's over.

Labor needs to redo Politics 101 and Media 101. It's not about policies it's about message. Dick and Jane citizen get their 30 sec news garb - that's it. Rolling Eyes

Abbott's still on message (I want an election).
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
How would this country look last night in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have just knifed our first female prime minister.
bevans


There is no "we" in this, we have not had a Federal Election - yet...
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
How would this country look last night in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have just knifed our first female prime minister.  Interesting view. Anyhow.
bevans
To quote Tonto in that old gag, what do you mean 'we'? The electorate had nothing to do with either knifing.

The Japanese change their government and leader about as quick as you change your underwear, so I don't think it is that newsworthy. Same with the Italians. And at least we don't do government chamber biff-ups like the Taiwanese.

Watching Labour is like watching an unbalanced machine shake itself to pieces, and all in glorious HD Colour. That video of the washing machine comes to mind....
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Julia Gillard will be PM at the next election.
"michaelgm"




I'll have 1 humble pie thanks, extra humble .

We can all simply relax now, comfortable in the knowledge that our new PM has the capacity to walk on water.
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  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
 How would this country look last night in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have just knifed our first female prime minister.  Interesting view. Anyhow.



Regards
Brian
bevans

Well in the middle east they just reported it as it was, no fan fare or critic.

Reference to first female Pm was, this took place "time frame" Gillard ousted Rudd in a similar showdown to become countries first female PM.


Honestly I don't see how many could say what Rudd did what was wrong, Julia brought this on herself, she should have stepped aside months ago. Her ship was sinking and only she seemed to not act on this. In politics if the govt you are leading is facing a whitewash at upcoming election and nothing you can do is changing the status, you must step aside or at least offer to step aside, she didn't. Given her way, she would had lead ALP to probably record loss at the election. How would have this looked in the world eyes? She is the best opposition leader the LNP has ever had.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Julia Gillard will be PM at the next election.
michaelgm
Laughing
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Now, now Vinelander - go back a few posts and you'll see that michaelgm was gracious enough to post an order for humble pie.
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller
  Carnot Minister for Railways

“For all who draw the sword will die by the sword"
Kev's wikipedia page is speaking some truth too (refer second line):
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Rudd
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
If I was Rudd, I wouldn't bother moving into the Lodge, or at least unpacking!
  Speed Minister for Railways

How would this country look last night in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have just knifed our first female prime minister.
"bevans"
I had a look around this morning:
  • The Jakarta Post had a report on Rudd announcing a challenge, but nothing subsequent.
  • The South China Morning Post had a report on Rudd winning the vote around 21:43.
  • (French newspaper) Liberation had a report on Rudd winning the vote around 21:41. They explained that this was just a vote for party leader, what a Governor General was and what Bryce had to do before the Prime Minister changed.
  • (Belgian newspaper) De Standaard had coverage on Carlos the Jackal but nothing in Australia. The status of women issue was the imprisonment of Femen protesters in Tunisia and protests during the Tunisian leader's European visit.
I checked international news more non-English publications than just those two. They had articles on that Texan politician trying to prevent new legislation governing abortion clinics curtailing the availability of abortion clinics in rural areas. They had articles on the US High Court's decision on social security for same sex married couples. Nelson Mandela's health attracted lots of stories.

The Australian media might like to think that this vote attracted international coverage. I suspect that it was mostly by publications of News Corporation/News Limited.

Foreigners who followed women's issues are more likely to have been interested in Gillard's swearing in as Prime Minister or her speech in response to accusations by the Member for Warringah that she was a misogynist.

Thinking of that speach... If you want to see former Prime Minister Gillard being hard-done-by, you'd look at this picture, rather than one of a "faceless man of the Labor Party".
As Chris Berg said, Conservatives share those ideals [of compassion, fairness and liberty], but they add group loyalty, respect for authority and ''sanctity''
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Noone overseas really gives a smeg. It'd be like hearing the Canadian prime minister got ousted by some backbencher. "Oh that happened", then move on. Who cares.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
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Thinking of that speach... If you want to see former Prime Minister Gillard being hard-done-by, you'd look at this picture, rather than one of a "faceless man of the Labor Party".
As Chris Berg said, Conservatives share those ideals [of compassion, fairness and liberty], but they add group loyalty, respect for authority and ''sanctity''
Speed

A broad church indeed... Rolling Eyes  Sort of thing you expected of militant union thugs and why I voted against Whitlam back in the Shame Fraser Shame days. A reminder of the influence and reach of the cock-jocks.

At least parliament was a caring and sharing yesterday
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
Rumour has it that Gillard was a conservative plant in the ALP to make them look bad, as a double agent she might well have been the best PM the Liberals ever had!
Aaron
That comment deserves to go straight to the political rubbish bin. Are you for real?
  fabricator Chief Commissioner

Location: Gawler
While watching the swearing in ceremony live on the ABC yesterday morning was interesting, what was more telling was there interview with Tony Abbott.

Tony's usual squeaky clean appearance was gone, to be honest he looked like he'd been through hell. Massive frown lines on a forehead that usually looks like someone polishes it. They also shows video of him the night before, where he looked worried but but not such obvious frown lines.

I'd say far from waking up unprepared, that Mr Abbott has been up all night (possibly drinking) and hadn't come up with an ideas on what to do now.
Tony Abbott is screwed and he knows it, all Rudd has to do is smile and he gains an appeal Tony never had.

*Disclaimer: I don't like Tony at all, I think he's not playing with a full deck. His lust for power is rather disturbing (statements made to independents that he "would do anything" to get into power). That snide look makes me wonder just what he really thinks of other people.  However I'm not going to resort to calling him the sort of names like some have done to Julia Gillard.

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