Pilbara - new Roy Hill iron ore mine

 
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
According to the Weekend Australian of 30-31 March, 2013 p25, a contract worth $5.5b has been awarded to Samsung Group of South Korea to build port and rail infrastructure for the Roy Hill iron ore project.

Roy Hill is owned by Australia's richest woman, Gina Rinehart, through the Hancock Prospecting Company.

Construction will start on next Tuesday, with completion in November 2015.

Several South Korean, Japanese and Taiwanese companies own 30% of the project.

The Roy Hill mine will produce 55MTPA.

The mine is 270km south of Port Hedland, in the Chichester Range.


DISCLAIMER: Since the RP search function isn't working it is not easy to say if this matter isn't covered by another thread.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Will there be only one mine on the network or will there be other mines connected?

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Brian
  M636C Minister for Railways

Will there be only one mine on the network or will there be other mines connected?

Regards
Brian
bevans
Check out http://www.hancockprospecting.com.au/files/2011_06_02_RHIO_Project_Ovw_Edwardes_AMCHAM.pdf

The maps show BC Iron and Atlas Iron as having tenements on the route of the railway.

"Roy Hill 1" apparently covers five separate deposits of Marra Mamba ore (Marra Mamba = dirt, Brockman = rock).

However, it is called Roy Hill 1, isn't it.

The line is alongside the FMG line for pretty much its entire route, except around Abydos where it is across near the Great Northern Highway. Boodarie will look pretty crowded soon...
M636C
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Check out http://www.hancockprospecting.com.au/files/2011_06_02_RHIO_Project_Ovw_Edwardes_AMCHAM.pdf

M636C

There appear to be some places where three railways (some perhaps double track) will be in parallel in the same valley.

A bit like the six track Main Suburban Line between Central and Strathfield.
  butt_weld Station Master

one of the criteria for so-called 'monopoly' infrastructure to be made subject to regulation

is that it is uneconomic to duplicate  Confused
  Northmetro Junior Train Controller

Both BHPB and FMG have or very soon will have enough traffic to keep their duplicated main lines busy. I can't see relations between Hancock and the two big Port Hedland players warming to the extent of infrastructure sharing, so it's likely Roy Hill may be the last totally new Pilbara iron ore line to be built for some time.

With the projected drop in iron ore prices over the next few years, expect Atlas and/or BC iron to do some sort of deal with either FMG or Hancock, as both will need to contain their costs. Generating extra revenue from third party operations on their infrastructure may be the best way to do this. BHP Billiton definitely don't want to and probably don't need to as they are operating at much lower cost.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Hancock have a number of deposits in the area and Roy Hill was a later addition to the rail plan. When it was realised that this was an elephant, they decided to concentrate on it. Maybe later extensions will happen but the issue is they will need to cross the Chichesters to connect up, though a route was developed about 10 years ago
  PILBARAMAN Train Controller

Location: PILBARA
Northmetro you have pretty much summed up the situation,the unlikely option though still an option is Atlas,Aurizon an Brockman alliance coming up with serving their mines or a  feasible  study which may entail another couple of companies maybe IOH or Flinders attaching themselves to a independent railway in the Pilbara.
62240 where is this developed route via Chichesters done by Roy Hill/Hancock 10yrs ago.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Northmetro you have pretty much summed up the situation,the unlikely option though still an option is Atlas,Aurizon an Brockman alliance coming up with serving their mines or a  feasible  study which may entail another couple of companies maybe IOH or Flinders attaching themselves to a independent railway in the Pilbara.
62240 where is this developed route via Chichesters done by Roy Hill/Hancock 10yrs ago.
PILBARAMAN
There was a route developed for Hope Downs which was into detailed design when the link to the Rio System was created instead. There are details of this route out there in cyberspace.
There was also a study by the Gummint on a new route for BHP with a flatter grade than the existing to eliminate banking. This was west of the existing crossing. The study required two separate routes so what either did would not prevent construction of a new railway by the second along. There was a 100m separation requirement. In that country railway design is challenging. I don't know if details of that are in the public domain.
Incidentally FMG initially looked at crossing the Chichesters east of BHP line.
  PILBARAMAN Train Controller

Location: PILBARA
There was a route developed for Hope Downs which was into detailed design when the link to the Rio System was created instead. There are details of this route out there in cyberspace.
There was also a study by the Gummint on a new route for BHP with a flatter grade than the existing to eliminate banking. This was west of the existing crossing. The study required two separate routes so what either did would not prevent construction of a new railway by the second along. There was a 100m separation requirement. In that country railway design is challenging. I don't know if details of that are in the public domain.
Incidentally FMG initially looked at crossing the Chichesters east of BHP line.
62440
Hope Downs is a separate mine to Roy Hill as I believe this thread relates to.
BHPB have built a new line West of the the original line which does reduce the gradient and maybe even reduce the need for banking although the banking is already built into the Distributed Power train setup with 2 Locos in the middle,technically we could run the trains with 3 Sd70's head end though the cycle times would go to smeg with the number of trains we run now and it also doesn't allow for Loco failures.

As for FMG they do cross the Chichester range East of the BHPB line and use Bankers,not sure of your point there.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Hope Downs is a separate mine to Roy Hill as I believe this thread relates to.
BHPB have built a new line West of the the original line which does reduce the gradient and maybe even reduce the need for banking although the banking is already built into the Distributed Power train setup with 2 Locos in the middle,technically we could run the trains with 3 Sd70's head end though the cycle times would go to smeg with the number of trains we run now and it also doesn't allow for Loco failures.

As for FMG they do cross the Chichester range East of the BHPB line and use Bankers,not sure of your point there.
PILBARAMAN
The question was about the crossing of the Chichesters as I understood it. Just pointing out that Hope Downs was a developed route design to the area. The later work looked at Bee Gorge as the primary mine, with extensions and additions to other mines including to Roy Hill at a later stage. As the drill results came back, Roy Hill became a focus and eventually the main target, so the whole route development focussed on it.
The story went that LH wanted the railway to run past his station and for a rail joint to be used so he could count his earnings at $10k per clickety clack. The current Roy Hill line design has a long evolution. Even going north and picking up the Marble Bar corridor was considered.
I assume the recent Chichester deviation followed the modified original proposal, it has been a few years since I was involved in the Pilbara. I assume the grade is 0.33% allowing loadeds on the easier grades and empties on the original 0.55%, if you could confirm, I'd be interested.

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