April 2013 Timetable Changes

 
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
The April 2013 timetable changes have been posted on the V/Line website.

I've only compared the current Geelong line timetable with the new timetable but it appears that all services apart from Warrnambool services will be Velocity services. Is this correct?

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  melbtrip Chief Commissioner

Location: Annoying Orange
The April 2013 timetable changes have been posted on the V/Line website.

I've only compared the current Geelong line timetable with the new timetable but it appears that all services apart from Warrnambool services will be Velocity services. Is this correct?
SamTheMan79
Velocity trains do not have first class carriages, so based on this the Warrnambool services will not be using a Velocity train sets.
  712M Chief Commissioner

Hopefully when RRL opens we will see the Geelong flagships eliminated and a simpler two-tier peak service:

1. Loco-hauled H/N/Z sets: Marshall, all stops to North Geelong, Footscray, SCS
2. VLocity: Geelong, all stops to Sunshine, Footscray, SCS

Despite the increased journey time for some pax, this allows for a more frequent and consistent service with existing rollingstock. At current some peak trains are 3 cars and half empty while others are 7 cars and overflowing.
  Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic
Velocity trains do not have first class carriages, so based on this the Warrnambool services will not be using a Velocity train sets.
melbtrip

Sam wasn't indicating that some of the Warrnambools might have been Velo's, he was saying that none of the Geelongs seemed to be loco hauled.
  Z181 Chief Train Controller

Location: Mernda
I think they have left the First Class Star off some services or they are going to be H-Set services as the running times on the new timetable would indicate a loco haled service.
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

Location:
Geelong services have seen a massive increase in the number of H cars used on the line in lieu of N sets (having an N set with only 2 Economy Cars / no Z cars on a Geelong run is poor form at any time of the day). Removing the stars is probably a good idea as it will stop people getting angry when the see a H set at the platform when they have bought First Class tickets.
  VRfan Moderator

Location: In front of my computer :-p
Its unfortunate that V/Line no longer seem to be updating the information pack. The proper timetables in there actually showed what type of train it was. The geelong line ones are dated 5/2011 :/

I thought it was actually required they release the timetable info as part of the supposed open access regime?
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
so the sprinter services are no more at Geelong?
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Removing the stars is probably a good idea as it will stop people getting angry when the see a H set at the platform when they have bought First Class tickets.
alstom_888m

I thought this might be the case. Don't quite think the numbers are there yet in the Velocity fleet to have every Geelong service serviced by Velocities.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

There will most likely be N sets running down that way in the next Network Service Plan however times are changing with ticketing. Watch this space.

Just because none of the Geelong line services have first class mentioned doesn't mean that they are a VLocity. The service could be run with either a H set, Sprinter or VLocity. V/Line would like for Geelong to be mainly run by VLocity sets however with the rolling stock situation at the present time this is not possible.

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