RP3.6 Bugs and Feedback

 
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
STRANGE CHARACTERS IN TEXT AND TITLES.

Can something be done to prevent strange characters appearing, such as the following title, in the "Lounge" post?

A plummeting Russian rocket’s toxic fuel cloud just shut down the world’s busiest space port

This also appears in RP's email advise messages.
awsgc24
I'm seeing exactly the same thing.  Those funny characters ’ are obviously supposed to be an apostrophe, but somehow are being changed.  I don't think it's anything to do with Railpage - I think it's to do with character encoding, which for both my browser and Railpage are set to UTF-8.  I can only guess that the post's originator copied the heading from a site which uses different encoding?  Although the body of the post contains an apostrophe character which is correctly displayed, so was that copied as well?  Could it also be to do with the underlining or formatting of the heading?

Who knows anything about character encoding?  If I change mine to something else, the funny characters get changed to other funny characters, but I can't get them to change to the apostrophe.

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  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
I'm seeing exactly the same thing.  Those funny characters ’ are obviously supposed to be an apostrophe, but somehow are being changed.  I don't think it's anything to do with Railpage - I think it's to do with character encoding, which for both my browser and Railpage are set to UTF-8.  I can only guess that the post's originator copied the heading from a site which uses different encoding?  Although the body of the post contains an apostrophe character which is correctly displayed, so was that copied as well?  Could it also be to do with the underlining or formatting of the heading?

Who knows anything about character encoding?  If I change mine to something else, the funny characters get changed to other funny characters, but I can't get them to change to the apostrophe.
Lad_Porter
It's an ongoing character encoding bug. I'm finding bits that need fixing with every code revision.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Tried your example with Firefox 22, and it worked perfectly, no problem at all.  The Back button took me out of the subject, then out of the Lounge, then out of the Forums.  I only had to click it once each time.
Lad_Porter

Yes, I tried Firefox and did not have the problem, but Firefox is half-baked anyway and I can't be bothered using it. The point is other sites do not throw up this problem.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Firefox is half-baked anyway
TheBlacksmith
I'm genuinely interested as to why you feel this way. Firefox has been my preferred browser since about v3. Yes, I know it isn't perfect, but I'm yet to find a better alternative.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Firefox has been my preferred browser since about v3.
Graham4405

Why?
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Yes, I tried Firefox and did not have the problem, but Firefox is half-baked anyway and I can't be bothered using it. The point is other sites do not throw up this problem.
TheBlacksmith
This is not a forum about which browser is better, but the point really is that if Firefox can handle the site correctly, then the site is correct and the problem is more likely to be with the browser(s) which do throw up the problem.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
This is not a forum about which browser is better, but the point really is that if Firefox can handle the site correctly, then the site is correct and the problem is more likely to be with the browser(s) which do throw up the problem.
Lad_Porter

False logic. IE does not exhibit this problem with other sites.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
False logic. IE does not exhibit this problem with other sites.
TheBlacksmith
Firefox does not have the same problem with the same site.  Given that the site is identical in each case, then there must be a difference in how each browser is processing the code.  FF processes it correctly, IE does not.  

For what it's worth, I used your example with IE and did not have the problem.  The Back button worked as expected.  I'm using IE8, as I have not yet upgraded from XP  (I don't know which version of IE you are using).
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
False logic. IE does not exhibit this problem with other sites.
TheBlacksmith
Wrong. IE does not comply with universal standards that many web sites are written to comply with. Conversely many sites that comply with IEs dubious standards do not work well (or at all) in other browsers. Use a standards compliant browser such as Firefox and use one of the IETab plugins (there are several) for sites that don't work well in Firefox.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Wrong? Wow, good to see you are considerate of other people's opinions. There is nothing 'wrong' with what I said, and as an aside, get some manners.

It matters not what browser I am using, IE 10 actually, as the problem does not occur on other sites, and given that more people are using IE than Firefox (Chrome is the most used browser), then it is well to report this to the site designer.

In any event, the purpose of this section of the forum is to pass on observations to Michael Greenhill, and as neither of you are Michael, then any further discussion is moot.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
get some manners.
TheBlacksmith
My apologies, a quick post at work during the lunch break is the best excuse I can come up with. I could have worded it better.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
My apologies, a quick post at work during the lunch break is the best excuse I can come up with. I could have worded it better.
Graham4405

Thank you for your apology, accepted. There are a lot on here that could learn from your mature response.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Wrong? Wow, good to see you are considerate of other people's opinions. There is nothing 'wrong' with what I said, and as an aside, get some manners.

It matters not what browser I am using, IE 10 actually, as the problem does not occur on other sites, and given that more people are using IE than Firefox (Chrome is the most used browser), then it is well to report this to the site designer.

In any event, the purpose of this section of the forum is to pass on observations to Michael Greenhill, and as neither of you are Michael, then any further discussion is moot.
TheBlacksmith
Blacksmith, please try this:

  • Open an administrative command prompt
  • run regsvr32 hlink.dll


Let me know if that works. I've been completely unable to replicate this bug.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
I've been completely unable to replicate this bug.
michaelgreenhill
Actually, I tried the scenario mentioned by The Blacksmith last night using IE10. The back "button" behaviour was bizarre to say the least. Clicking three times gets you there and the forward "button" is inactive. I was going to post it here but The Blacksmith had made it quite clear that he only wanted to hear from you on this issue.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Blacksmith, please try this:

  • Open an administrative command prompt
  • run regsvr32 hlink.dll


Let me know if that works. I've been completely unable to replicate this bug.
michaelgreenhill

No, I did as you asked and it had no effect. As Graham4405 says, the back button has to be clicked repeatedly and the forward button does nothing.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
No, I did as you asked and it had no effect. As Graham4405 says, the back button has to be clicked repeatedly and the forward button does nothing.
TheBlacksmith
Try adding the "Block third-party Google site tracking" TPL from this site: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/p3p/
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Actually, I tried the scenario mentioned by The Blacksmith last night using IE10. The back "button" behaviour was bizarre to say the least. Clicking three times gets you there and the forward "button" is inactive. I was going to post it here but The Blacksmith had made it quite clear that he only wanted to hear from you on this issue.
Graham4405
As noted previously, I do not have the problem using IE8 and XP.  Could be that there is a bug in IE10 which does not exist in IE8?   Interesting that Michael can't replicate the problem either.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Try adding the "Block third-party Google site tracking" TPL from this site: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/p3p/
michaelgreenhill
Made no difference to me.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Nor me.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Nor me.
TheBlacksmith
Last attempt: try these tips
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Just a passing comment. I had reason to visit a website yesterday which had a banner warning:

users of Internet Explorer 10 may be currently experiencing some problems. We recommend that you avoid using this version of the browser for the time being. We apologise for any inconvenience caused


So, we are not alone in seeing problems with IE10.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Last attempt: try these tips
michaelgreenhill
For me I can't be bothered with IE and its vagaries. Currently trialling Pale Moon, a variant of Firefox optimised for Windows with exellent results so far.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Mobile site has shat itself, Michael. It's effectively a squashed version of the normal version. Will post screenie later.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
The RP Search function actually worked once while searching for "Pilbara"; then it stopped working!
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
When arriving onto the following page: http://www.railpage.com.au/tags/cressy/ i wish to view the first article. I click more the page faults.  http://www.railpage.com.au/news/article-/ when it should give me the news?

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