A2 986 - Coming Together

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Some Video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sitNbAfyWBc

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Just had a look at the photos amd to me something did not look right with the valve gear.

Compare the following photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/78379788@N06/17638552203/sizes/l taken on Saturday,

with this one http://www.victorianrailways.net/motive%20power/a2steam/a2steam1.html taken about 1960.

It appears the return cranks now "throw" the other way.
NSWGR 3827
NSW 3827,
It would appear from the linked photos and confirmed by the above video that something has been changed with the valve gear setup of 986. The video, especially, shows that the block is in the bottom of the expansion link when running tender first and in the top of the link when running in foregear. This is the opposite of VR practice.
  NSWGR 3827 Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Border
NSW 3827,
It would appear from the linked photos and confirmed by the above video that something has been changed with the valve gear setup of 986. The video, especially, shows that the block is in the bottom of the expansion link when running tender first and in the top of the link when running in foregear. This is the opposite of VR practice.
YM-Mundrabilla
So the question is:
Is it an intentional change or accidental?
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
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Very droll, perhaps we need the central character in that video to take on the bureaucracy?
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Oh very funny. Shame it has a lot of truth behind it.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
So the question is:
Is it an intentional change or accidental?
NSWGR 3827
Operation is back to normal now
  NSWGR 3827 Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Border
Operation is back to normal now
LowndesJ515
So the Driving Wheelset has been turned around now?
  Spinner5711 Train Controller

You cannot turn one set of wheels around.  Nothing in what I saw suggests that A2 986 was running left side leading.  All three sets get changed together or none get changed.  They've done the logical thing and moved the eccentric crank 90 degrees on the crankpin.
  NSWGR 3827 Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Border
You cannot turn one set of wheels around.  Nothing in what I saw suggests that A2 986 was running left side leading.  All three sets get changed together or none get changed.  They've done the logical thing and moved the eccentric crank 90 degrees on the crankpin.
Spinner5711
1. You can have the wheelsets either way around, the only thing that makes a difference is the orientation of the square end on the driving set for the Return Crank.  If you don't believe me stand on one side of a coupled wheelset with the wheels either side of you (It might not be easy to find one but a model or live steam will do) picture it rotating right leading left, then walk around the other side and picture it rotating right leading left. Remember if the Wheelset is around the other way it is also rotating the other way. Think about it.  This may have been how the mistake was made.

2. The Return or Eccentric Crank on a VR Loco can only be put on 1 way. It is not physically possible to rotate it thru 90 degrees as the bolts holding it have to pass thru machined slots (don't know if that's the right word) in the crank pin, quite likely to prevent it being put on the wrong way.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
A bit of nostalgia - reading through an old Newsrail ( June 1986 ) and on page 185 there's a photo of T356 hauling A2 986 across the Bunyip River bridge on its journey from Warragul to Steamrail's Newport depot. The tender has "STEAMRAIL" painted on its side in letters about 1 metre high.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
A bit of nostalgia - reading through an old Newsrail ( June 1986 ) and on page 185 there's a photo of T356 hauling A2 986 across the Bunyip River bridge on its journey from Warragul to Steamrail's Newport depot. The tender has "STEAMRAIL" painted on its side in letters about 1 metre high.
Valvegear

Similar to this photo?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Similar to this photo?
"michaelgreenhill"
Same consist; different location. Your shot is from the front; the Newsrail shot is from the rear.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Heard this loco might be out and about this Sunday. Planned test runs from Newport to Sunshine via Brooklyn.  Not sure of the times.
  Michelle12 Moderator Photo Overlord

Location: Melbourne
The times are believed to be between 1:15pm and 7:47pm on Sunday.
  NSWGR 3827 Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Border
Hopefully it will go forward in forward gear & backward in back gear this time!
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Hopefully it will go forward in forward gear & backward in back gear this time!
NSWGR 3827
All fixed apparently.
Just in time for her centenary next month.Smile
Thanks to all involved in her restoration. A credit to you all.
  Loco Administrator Railpage 2 Developer

Location: Banned
Hopefully it will go forward in forward gear & backward in back gear this time!
NSWGR 3827
You made a big deal pointing that out when that occurred on all the posts here and all over YouTube Simon. Don't worry, the folks at down at the workshop certainly knew your opinion on the matter, thanks for that.

It's a little old now, yawn.
  Loco Administrator Railpage 2 Developer

Location: Banned
The times are believed to be between 1:15pm and 7:47pm on Sunday.
Michelle12
That's a very specific set of times you have there. So tell me, what role do you have in the railways to have access to these?
  NSWGR 3827 Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Border
Hopefully it will go forward in forward gear & backward in back gear this time!
You made a big deal pointing that out when that occurred on all the posts here and all over YouTube Simon. Don't worry, the folks at down at the workshop certainly knew your opinion on the matter, thanks for that.

It's a little old now, yawn.
Loco
I'm just stunned that it got so far before anyone noticed.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  darcycammo Chief Train Controller

Location: cockatoo vic
A2 986 Today
i was in South Australia this morning when i seen on Facebook that it was going for a run this afternoon so we raced back to Melbourne to see it
 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Do we know if the loco is to remain in the grey or will he livery change to complete the restoration?
  I'm Barely Online Locomotive Fireman

Do we know if the loco is to remain in the grey or will he livery change to complete the restoration?
bevans
According to several people at Steamrail it's going in all black.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Do we know if the loco is to remain in the grey or will he livery change to complete the restoration?
According to several people at Steamrail it's going in all black.
I'm Barely Online
Hopefully without the red buffer beam but congratulations and thanks to all concerned.

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