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  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Hopefully it stays there, I'm fairly sure 295M and friends is/was Elecrail's set, unless they no longer own these cars.

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  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Maybe getting ready for one last service.
  Westernport Assistant Commissioner

Location: Not In Service
The set was stabled in the Garden platform as it's is out of the way of normal stabling areas, and importantly, has overhead power.

All the other stored Hitachi sets sitting around Newport Workshops are in un-wired roads.

Simple logic dictates that you'd put the train somewhere out of the way.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Maybe getting ready for one last service.
X'Trapolis-904M
Why don't they do what the Kiwi's did to the Old British Rail MK2 carriages for their Auckland Suburban service, to the Hitachis. Just convert them to hauled stock, rip out the electrics, completely refurbish them, fit air conditioning and a cheap dot matrix information screen. Refurbish and strengthen the Cab at one end and refurbish a locomotive and use it in push pull mode. And of course fit Standard Gauge Bogies. These could be used for the Albury service.

Michael
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Didn't they do something similar with the Harris Suburban trains by converting them into the H sets?
  randomnarwhal Locomotive Driver

Maybe getting ready for one last service.
Why don't they do what the Kiwi's did to the Old British Rail MK2 carriages for their Auckland Suburban service, to the Hitachis. Just convert them to hauled stock, rip out the electrics, completely refurbish them, fit air conditioning and a cheap dot matrix information screen. Refurbish and strengthen the Cab at one end and refurbish a locomotive and use it in push pull mode. And of course fit Standard Gauge Bogies. These could be used for the Albury service.

Michael
mejhammers1
I'm certain this has been suggested before. It would most likely work out cheaper to just buy new DMU or carriage sets than to refurb carriages of a similar or older age to the existing Albury stock.

Didn't they do something similar with the Harris Suburban trains by converting them into the H sets?
GeoffreyHansen
Yes. The trailer cars were converted by Vline into H sets.

I noticed on the way past today that the "Do Not Move" track blocking sign appears to have been removed from in front of the set closest to the creek. I doubt it will be there much longer.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Maybe getting ready for one last service.
Why don't they do what the Kiwi's did to the Old British Rail MK2 carriages for their Auckland Suburban service, to the Hitachis. Just convert them to hauled stock, rip out the electrics, completely refurbish them, fit air conditioning and a cheap dot matrix information screen. Refurbish and strengthen the Cab at one end and refurbish a locomotive and use it in push pull mode. And of course fit Standard Gauge Bogies. These could be used for the Albury service.

Michael
I'm certain this has been suggested before. It would most likely work out cheaper to just buy new DMU or carriage sets than to refurb carriages of a similar or older age to the existing Albury stock.

Didn't they do something similar with the Harris Suburban trains by converting them into the H sets?
Yes. The trailer cars were converted by Vline into H sets.

I noticed on the way past today that the "Do Not Move" track blocking sign appears to have been removed from in front of the set closest to the creek. I doubt it will be there much longer.
randomnarwhal
No I do not agree with that. I think it is more political, because I cannot see that a refurb of existing stock would cost $6 Million for each car like those horrendously expensive V/locities.

I reckon that they do not want to deal with the fall out of refurbish trains for Albury whereas Traralgon, Geelong, Bendigo and Ballarat corridors get new Velocities.

Michael
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
I noticed on the way past today that the "Do Not Move" track blocking sign appears to have been removed from in front of the set closest to the creek. I doubt it will be there much longer.
randomnarwhal
When I went past there on Monday all three Danger Road Closed signs were in place.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980

Michael
mejhammers1 ... I reckon that they do not want to deal with the fall out of refurbish trains for Albury whereas Traralgon, Geelong, Bendigo and Ballarat corridors get new Velocities.
But there would be no political fallout for a Labour government as all state electorates on the line are comfortably held by the National Party or the Liberal Party, so a Labour government has nothing to lose. By contrast, a future coalition government wouldn't dare do anything that might raise the ire of protest groups in the north east, so effectively their hands would be tied as there are people who would find fault with any proposal.

Therefore, unlike the Bendigo, Ballarat and Geelong lines, the ALP is in a unique position in relation to the Albury line because they have nothing to lose in a political sense. That means they can replace carriages and make other useful changes on the line with no damage to their parliamentary representation.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned

MichaelBut there would be no political fallout for a Labour government as all state electorates on the line are comfortably held by the National Party or the Liberal Party, so a Labour government has nothing to lose. By contrast, a future coalition government wouldn't dare do anything that might raise the ire of protest groups in the north east, so effectively their hands would be tied as there are people who would find fault with any proposal.

Therefore, unlike the Bendigo, Ballarat and Geelong lines, the ALP is in a unique position to where they have nothing to lose in a political sense. That means they can replace carriages and make other useful changes on the Albury line with no damage to their parliamentary representation.
Bogong
True Dat!! I hope the Government does do something about the Albury Corridor. It will show that they are governing for all Victorians not just marginal seats !!!

Michael
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
When I last wandered by, I thought there was more sets there. Definitely didn't see those 'Danger road closed' signs and the yellow paint sprayed on 279M's lead wheel and track. Someone's been messing about with them as the number of ajar doors, changed brake blocks and open windows attest.
  randomnarwhal Locomotive Driver

And then there was one, with the headlights on as I went past. The "road closed" signs have also been back for a while now.
  hitachi69 Locomotive Driver

Ayy guys any word on when 278m is set to depart towards Newport
  Dave-the-slave Station Master

Location: Epping, Victoria
Yesterday afternoon (5th) the set closest to the creek had the pantos up and the maker lights on.
This morning all was quiet, pantos down.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
End of an era for Hitachi today on 10/10/2015. First enter service 24/12/1972.

278M-1919T-277M-286M-1977T-285M seen running as a down last Hitachi transfer from Macaulay train yard/Southern Cross to Newport Workshops at Somerville Rd rail overpass, Yarraville (10/10/2015).


This won't be the last time I'll photo Hitachi & its had been around for almost 43 years.



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  merlin Chief Commissioner

Location: North East Adelaide
Hopefully it stays there, I'm fairly sure 295M and friends is/was Elecrail's set, unless they no longer own these cars.
Heihachi_73
If I recall correctly, whichever set has the open-cab (Former 7M) and the former D-Car(1994T/355D), is elecrail's set.

According to Vicsig, it is set

295M-1994T-296M - 281M-1946T-282M (was 7M-1994T-225M - 89M-1946T-99M) which makes you correct.


I also recall Elecrail's terms being something along the lines of a clause or agreement allowing them to buy their train back (for a nominal $1?) once the government was done with it -see http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/recyled-trains-coming-to-a-station-near-you/2007/04/22/1177180483892.html
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
What are the plans for the Hitachi units which have been transferred to Newport?
  I'm Barely Online Locomotive Fireman

What are the plans for the Hitachi units which have been transferred to Newport?
x31
One to be used by ElecRail, the others will become spare parts
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
What are the plans for the Hitachi units which have been transferred to Newport?
One to be used by ElecRail, the others will become spare parts
I'm Barely Online
I cannot see why they cannot be refurbished converted to Hauled stock for V/Line as they are desperately short of stock. After all they can do it for the W - Class trams.


Michael
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
What are the plans for the Hitachi units which have been transferred to Newport?
One to be used by ElecRail, the others will become spare parts
I cannot see why they cannot be refurbished converted to Hauled stock for V/Line as they are desperately short of stock. After all they can do it for the W - Class trams.


Michael
mejhammers1
What would haul them though? As I understand it V/Line don't have any spare locos.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
What are the plans for the Hitachi units which have been transferred to Newport?
One to be used by ElecRail, the others will become spare parts
I cannot see why they cannot be refurbished converted to Hauled stock for V/Line as they are desperately short of stock. After all they can do it for the W - Class trams.


Michael
What would haul them though? As I understand it V/Line don't have any spare locos.
railblogger
What about the A Class locos recently decommissioned. Surely they can be re-commisioned!

Michael
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
What are the plans for the Hitachi units which have been transferred to Newport?
One to be used by ElecRail, the others will become spare parts
I cannot see why they cannot be refurbished converted to Hauled stock for V/Line as they are desperately short of stock. After all they can do it for the W - Class trams.


Michael
What would haul them though? As I understand it V/Line don't have any spare locos.
What about the A Class locos recently decommissioned. Surely they can be re-commisioned!

Michael
mejhammers1
I believe they have been stripped.

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