Where are on train Vline staff based?

 
  beanzs27 Assistant Commissioner

I'm assuming Vline staff are based at places like Bendigo, Ballarat, Seymour, Geelong and Traralgon
I have noticed that often staff will change at Bendigo when going to Swan Hill, similar from Albury with a change at Seymour or Bairnsdale with a change at Traralgon etc.

Talking to conductors they have mentioned that they will stay over night at Swan Hill and then catch a train the next day. From what I understand the staff on the evening down train, work the afternoon up train from Swan Hill. While the morning down train staff, work the morning up train the next day. Is that correct?

Is this similar for other  services?
Do Maryborough staff live in Maryborough or drive back to Ballarat.

Do the train drivers work similar shifts as Conductors?

I remember, catching the same Bairnsdale train two days in a row, Sale to Rosedale, then Rosedale to Traralgon and having the same conductor, is this common for staff to do the same schedule train?

Thanks

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  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
I'm assuming Vline staff are based at places like Bendigo, Ballarat, Seymour, Geelong and Traralgon
I have noticed that often staff will change at Bendigo when going to Swan Hill, similar from Albury with a change at Seymour or Bairnsdale with a change at Traralgon etc.

Talking to conductors they have mentioned that they will stay over night at Swan Hill and then catch a train the next day. From what I understand the staff on the evening down train, work the afternoon up train from Swan Hill. While the morning down train staff, work the morning up train the next day. Is that correct?

Is this similar for other services?
Do Maryborough staff live in Maryborough or drive back to Ballarat.

Do the train drivers work similar shifts as Conductors?

I remember, catching the same Bairnsdale train two days in a row, Sale to Rosedale, then Rosedale to Traralgon and having the same conductor, is this common for staff to do the same schedule train?

Thanks
beanzs27

You are correct, V/Line conductors are based at the V/Line interurban termini, and change there on intercity services.

I believe in the case of Maryborough services conductors will have accommodation in Maryborough and return (to Ballarat) the next morning.

Train drivers work much the same shifts, the difference being that on long distance services, the same driver will run the following return service (they run the loco around the train, using the same loco as the down trip for the up trip).

As an added note, conductor crews on most services to Southern Cross will work the next service back to the same destination, for instance if they came up on an Albury train they will work down on the next Albury train (to Seymour).
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

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What's the minimum turnaround between shifts for drivers and conductors? (i.e. bus drivers legally require a 10 hour break between shifts)
  Z181 Chief Train Controller

Location: Mernda
Conductor depots are Melbourne, Bendigo, Ballarat, Seymour, Shepparton, Albury, Geelong, Warrnambool, Traralgon and Bairnsdale.

In the case of Maryborough, Ararat…. The morning Up services the Driver and Conductor travel the crew car from Ballarat to Maryborough/Ararat and vise versa with the evening down services.

Echuca works the same out of Bendigo except on a weekend when the Evening Up the conductor travels up on the Echuca Coach service to pick up the train.

Turn around with shifts is 10 hours for country depots normally and 12 hours for Melbourne. This applies to Platform Staff too.

As for running the next service back this normally only happens on Weekends.

On Weekdays there is a lot of "hang around shifts". Especially after the morning peak. A connie could get in from Ballarat at 0655 and not return till the 1008. Also country depots do run services on other lines Mon-Fri.
Geelong run the first 3 down Traralgons out of Melbourne
Traralgon run the 1100 Marshall and 1713 Bacchus Marsh out of Melbourne
Bendigo run the 1619 Geelong and 1708 South Geelong out of Melbourne
Ballarat run the 1559 Marshall out of Melbourne

Only depots to do rest Jobs are Melbourne, Albury, Bendigo and Warrnambool.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Only depots to do rest Jobs are Melbourne, Albury, Bendigo and Warrnambool.
Z181

AND Bairnsdale & Shepparton.

Mike.
  simeyau Locomotive Fireman

Location: Sunbury, Victoria
And there is a depot at Kyneton
  712M Chief Commissioner

And there is a depot at Kyneton
simeyau

Further to that, is there a depot at Bacchus Marsh?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
And there is a depot at Kyneton
simeyau

Yes there's a depot at Kyneton, however I don't think there would be a requirement for Melbourne crews to stay overnight there when Kyneton crews would drive services to Melbourne.

Same for Bacchus Marsh...
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

AND Bairnsdale & Shepparton.

Mike.
The Vinelander

Shepparton does not do rest jobs
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Shepparton does not do rest jobs
vlocity160

When did rest jobs at Shepparton cease?

It must have been fairly recently...
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

When did rest jobs at Shepparton cease?

It must have been fairly recently...
The Vinelander

It hasn't been for at least 2.5 years
  AWCar Beginner

Location: Adelaide
I'm pretty sure years ago (1970s) that the trains between Melbourne and Albury crossed at Seymour so the Wodonga and Melbourne conductors would change over there and return to their respective depots.  The Wodonga conductor would work the morning train out of Albury change at Seymour and return on the lunch time service while the conductor on the afternoon train out of Albury would return home on the night service from Melbourne.  They may have even swapped at other stations if one of the trains was running late.
  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
I'm pretty sure years ago (1970s) that the trains between Melbourne and Albury crossed at Seymour so the Wodonga and Melbourne conductors would change over there and return to their respective depots. The Wodonga conductor would work the morning train out of Albury change at Seymour and return on the lunch time service while the conductor on the afternoon train out of Albury would return home on the night service from Melbourne. They may have even swapped at other stations if one of the trains was running late.
AWCar

This still happens today. Conductors from Albury/Wodonga will change at Seymour then return up to Albury/Wodonga.
  mustang Station Master

does the conductor job pays well, i currently work as  a bus driver and the pay is good and location is closeby. but really looking for a change into a career with better growth options. goal is to be a train driver, guess have to start somewhere
thanks
  g00r Locomotive Fireman

does the conductor job pays well, i currently work as a bus driver and the pay is good and location is closeby. but really looking for a change into a career with better growth options. goal is to be a train driver, guess have to start somewhere
thanks
mustang



Here's a link to their Workplace agreement FWA (page 85), then factor in all their shift allowances.  Similar to bus drivers (after 10 pm etc) but a lot more generous.

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